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What if you guys can find correlation stats about black people having lower IQ's, etc. because of their long history of being oppressed as slaves? Obviously they wouldn't able to raise super smart children during/right after slavery because they weren't even allowed to read for 150 years or whatever it was. Then, there was Jim Crow where they weren't given even a real fraction of the same opportunity for generational wealth & education. Then, there were/are harsh drug laws that took fathers away from so many black communities. And I'm sure you'll say, why'd they sell drugs? Well, they didn't really have a whole lot of other opportunity to build wealth and escape their situation and who would want to continue living paycheck to paycheck with no way out? Does this obvious point even matter to you guys? Should they just be thrown out because of what we did to them in the first place? Where's the empathy for our fellow man?

As an ethnic Jew (meaning not a Jew because of my beliefs), I doubt many of you guys have really seen the horrors of what happens from the racist beliefs espoused here. I've been to Israel, Germany, and Auschwitz among other places. I've seen 4,000 lbs of hair of my own people and a room full of babies shoes that obviously belonged to babies that were killed. What would've been my hair or my baby shoes, if I was born in a different time & place. But I don't deserve death just because my mothers Jewish. I'm a good person and atheist/Libertarian. I don't think I'm better than you guys, I don't think you guys are bad people, I have empathy for you guys. I understand you're probably not the super popular jocks at school (I wasn't either), probably not getting a lot of attention from girls or your parents for that matter, probably not regulars at the gym, etc. and you have a world view that's based on the experiences you've had and circumstance you find yourselves in. You guys matter and are loved even if you don't feel it.

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>low IQ from slavery
Ignores genetics.

somehow I'm not sure what you mean

niggers are dumb(on average, i would never hate an individual for their skin color) no matter what kind of upbringing you give them
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what you mean by lovely*
assuming you're right about genetics... do you think genetics are not affected by your entire experience in this world? can DNA not be altered by lived experience? is it fair to hold other groups to the same genetic standard if their experience on this world was unlike any other group?

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Yeah that could be possible, good point.
Maybe they have lower iq's because they were oppressed or whatever...

I think they deserve their own place because of this, their own place far away from whites, and then they can develop without the fear of evil whitey opressing and enslaving them.

We should move them next to Israel.

Thank you! This was my first post on Any Forums. I read the Buffalo kids manifesto and just thought it was a shame that he was obviously articulate and not the idiot I'd imagine a mass shooter to be. But he was just misled by the wrong ideology which apparently came from here. So I just wanted to see if you guys were too far gone or if there was humanity to be found here.

dont be stupid, the nature/nurture debate has been looked at for decades, and the data show that 50-80% of the average racial group difference in IQ scores is genetic

for instance, one paper published in an APA journal: www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

thats a meta-analysis, so it summarizes and compares many other published studies. racial differences are largely (but not completely) heritable, this is about as settled as anything in the softer sciences will get

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But why their own place? Why not here, in the melting pot home of the brave and land of the free? In the richest nation on the planet? In the bastion of human rights and equality?

EVERYWHERE THEY ARE IT'S THE FUCKING SAME
in fact, the countries in africa not colonized by europeans are worse than the ones that were

Every civilization has practiced slavery and every race at some point in its history has been enslaved.

oh shit just figured out how to reply to you guys specifically... sure, cool lets say you're right it's genetic. but what if those genes were influenced by their inhumanly harsh environment for 150+ years? that's not their fault, that's not because they're less than human, it's just that they were treated as if they were.

just like I'm sure some people here are have some medical conditions like asthma or environmental factors like obesity that would make you guys less able bodied than the average black person. does that make you less than human? does that mean you should gtfo? or does that mean you're just different but still deserve love, compassion, empathy, to be heard, etc. like every other person?

>Auschwitz
Oh, you mean the labor camp with the swimming pools and hospitals?

Helpful hint: No one here buys your sob story holocaust myth. You've just blown any credibility you might have had Shmuley.

Now apologize for 9/11 or fuck off.

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nvm did not figure out how to reply.

sure every group has been enslaved, but how many were enslaved and told a lie that it's because they are less than human? doubt you'll find many examples. when you impose that self-image on a group of people over the course of multiple generations, I'd expect them to start to believe it and act accordingly. wouldn't you?

and to respond to IrCnTSvN their countries get raped for their natural resources? if someone came to america and took all the businesses, captital, resources, etc. we would be a war torn nation not capable of really accomplishing much either? would we not?

Niggers in africa have always been dumb as fuck. your point is stupid, you fucking stupid nigger.

X+ZFgcvJ lmao 2 red herrings and an ad hominem I'm really trying to have a conversation bro that's light work

blacks raised in white households still have average lower IQ's than whites raised in black households.

The ONLY notable correlation between blacks and their intelligence is the color of their skin, followed distantly by what school they go to/where they are raised.

m6mbcAtn why do you feel that way though? you clearly aren't alluding to some data you just have hate foaming out of your mouth like rabies. why?

dXMwwlTL) black kids raised in white households still might have genes of slaves who were unable to read for generations while every other group got to educate themselves and provide opportunity for their children. "blacks and their intelligence is the color of their skin, followed distantly by what school they go to/where they are raised." see you were really onto something with the last part idk why you guys are focused on the skin color so much. i feel like I'm arguing with a super religious person, it's clearly just a belief of hate. the question is why?