Also, I used to work with a guy who would talk a lot about how he wants to gun down heroin addicts in those videos where they walk around like zombies. Yet he used to talk a lot about how he needed a liter of whiskey to fall asleep after work.
How is a guy like that any different from a heroin addict? The only difference I can see is the heroin addict is less violent but more prone to steal, because due to illegalization, heroin is far more expensive than liquor.
you're a pussy put away the sauce and go touch grass
Dylan Foster
If heroin were as cheap as booze, then I think alcoholics would have higher crime rates than heroin addicts.
Thomas Thomas
Nice quads
Easton Clark
You gonna go for 3 posts of the same topic? Hell why not 4?
Jack Williams
Thanks. I do work on my quads. Glad to see my hard work is noticed
Lucas Reed
Alcohol is too engrained in just about every culture, certainly many European cultures. Sorry, the alc stays.
Colton Cox
They're all bad if you're an addict. Heroin can kill you the easiest out of all of them though.
Isaiah Campbell
Yeah we know. Problem is we as a society are never gonna get rid of booze. So best to learn to live with it and avoid places with alcohol if you don’t want to partake.
Jeremiah Scott
More of a toxin than a drug, but the abuse of this substance, (by some), is not grounds for societal authoritarianism. Don't make me suffer the sins of others. Don't sacrifice my freedoms to counter your own personal weaknesses.
Aaron Smith
Well according to AI liquor only becomes a hard drug when you drink a lot
Caleb Myers
checked. true. alcohol causes much more destruction to individuals physically and psychologically, and to society as a whole, than any of the illegal drugs (with the possible exception of meth)
but alcohol is allowed to remain legal because it is an easy way of keeping the worker masses stupid and content. right up there with bread (fast food) and circuses (netflix, sports, electoral politics)
Brandon Watson
I'm not drinking anymore..
Isaiah King
Culture is the problem. Alcohol exists for celebrations, real celebrations. We have nothing to celebrate and everything to try and forget now, hence the corrupt use of the substance.
People who get this bad would do it on anything they could get their hands on.
Opiates get some sympathy from me because doctors prescribed them and drove addiction by making people believe they needed them. But beyond that, if everything was legal you'd see the exact same levels of OD and addiction as you see now. Making it illegal just gives money to mexicans.
If you're not a complete retard drugs are not a big deal.
Carson Murphy
i mean, dose makes the poison right?
agreed. the solution isn't to make booze illegal- it's to legalize everything, and provide adequate mental health care and social support (including vibrant community, fulfilling work with adequate wages, and education/healthcare/housing in a healthy environment)
addiction usually results from trauma. remove the troubling stimulus and heal the historic trauma and the pain requiring self-soothing/self-medication through drugs and alcohol will disappear as well.
addiction is not an individual disease, it is a manifestation of societal sickness and imbalance. we try to "heal addiction" like "healing depression" by throwing SSRIs and benzos at the problem but until we address the root cause, nothing will get better.
and the war on drugs is just a mechanism for control, used to justify a police state.
Jackson Russell
congratulations friend. may you find the healing you seek.
Colton Kelly
>if you're not a complete retard drugs aren't a big deal more like, if you weren't forced to deal with absolutely horrible trauma as a child, or if you weren't born into the living hell of poverty, then you aren't driven to soothe yourself with external stimuli like drugs and alcohol
don't blame addicts, they are very often the victims themselves. yes, we need to be accountable for our actions. but if the underlying conditions and motivations for the actions aren't changed, then people just repeat them over and over and over no matter how bad it hurts themselves and others.
we have to provide the conditions for healing to occur, to break these negative behavioral feedback loops.
Chase Sullivan
alcohol is what keeps all of you communist faggots from taking over and enslaving the world, do you see prisoners drinking alcohol? no because they are under communist/state control dumb retard zoomer I swear to god you are going to sell your freedom for a piece of bread because you are so stupid
Juan Reed
Fucking quads???? Must mean OP is based as fuck
Jaxson Anderson
Thanks mein bruder. Every morning I wake up thinking todays going to be the day I cave but by the time I usually start drinking I’m not interested.
Alcohol is for niggers. White people smoke weed and do mushrooms.
Samuel Bailey
Switzerland created a prescription heroin program and found exactly what you predicted: when addicts have a safe source for their drug of choice, negative consequences go to near zero. No crime, no overdose, no interpersonal conflict. they are able to get housing, hold a steady job, build relationships with friends and families and raise families of their own.
the drug war itself is what creates the problems in many or most cases. not the drug. I understand this sounds counterintuitive so here are some reputable sources:
Similar programs have met similar results in countries like Denmark, Portugal, Canada. Medication Assisted Treatment is recognized to work, full stop.
Prohibition has killed millions of Americans. and think about the millions more who have died of suicide or other deaths of despair, and the tens of millions more who have had their lives ruined by the criminal justice system or family members involved in addiction- all the children who grow up without parents, who repeat the cycle.
It's like a giant engine for suffering. And they know exactly what they're doing, and they keep doing it, because the people who are in charge are addicted themselves- they are addicted to power and control. And sick, addicted people don't fight back. (Yet)
Jaxon Rogers
Good on you fren. I quit almost 7 years ago & life gets gud sober. I had about 8 or so small binges along the way in the 1st 2 years but overcame them. May God give you strength to stay sober.
Jack Williams
Any Forums thinks my sources are spam i guess but if you google "switzerland prescription heroin program" you can find peer-reviewed sources on the efficacy of the program after 10-15-20 years
