Nofap shills, if ejaculation / the orgasm are so bad...

Nofap shills, if ejaculation / the orgasm are so bad, then what would be wrong with just masturbating but not ejaculating / orgasming, aka edging? if edging is also bad, then how do you explain accidental / uncontrollable erections, and also wet dreams?

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the people that are against no fap and have also never tried it are just mentally weak

The key to eternal life is ankhing.

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>obvious jewish phenotype

I did it for a month, to be fair it was the best nut I ever had after the end of that month. But other than that I didn't notice any other benefits.
>inb4 you need to get your nofap streak to 90+ days
And when I get to 90 days you'll just say that I need to go for an entire year. There are no actual benefits, it's all placebo at best.

The only thing I noticed is a slight uptick in energy at the cost of the longterm health of my prostate. The energy thing makes sense because after ejaculation you generally release sleep hormones. The way to counter the prostate issues would be prostate massages or PC muscle exercises, if someone really wanted to torture themselves without sex or masturbation for months on end for the benefits something a cup of joe could give, I don't know why I'm contributing to an off-topic shill slide thread, but here we are.

I did it for 2 months. My testosterone increased exponentially, I noticed because
1. My skin got less soft. Didn't get shaving cuts as usual.
2. Felt like my IQ increased.
3. Beard grew like crazy
4. People treated me with more respect.
5. People noticed me more.
6. Despite not sleeping well, I didn't feel tired or sleepy during the day.

Masturbation is turning men into soiboys. We opened the flood gates long ago when it was encouraged and accepted.

having an erection doesnt mean you need to bust you smooth brain. youre supposed to channel the energy of that erection to something else until it goes away, but a coomer like you wouldnt get it

It's proven that no fap increases test

So just masturbate without ejaculating / orgasming? That way you exercise your prostate while still keeping your semen energy or whatever it is
Many of the things you listed are subjective and could simply be correlated with placebo. That's the main problem with you nofap shills, you don't list objective benefits rooted in legitimate science, it's all larping at best.

i did noFap for 4 years straight... ask me anything

right now am on day 12 or so, and feeling more godlike each day.

Do 21 days no-ejaculation and see for yourself how you feel.

Not placebo because I didn't do it for the benefits. I did it because my religion.
All those are effects of increase of T. You can see the science if you want.

Because edging accumulates energy in your lower chakras and if not transmuted could cause severe health damage or urges to have sex.

Isn't this guy 40? He still masturbates in his 40s? Disgusting

If you're so godlike why the fuck are you on Any Forums? Don't you have great things to achieve instead of wasting your precious time here?
At least understand that you're not convincing anyone at all, you couldn't even be bothered to show actual scientific research
So just transmute that energy to your upper chakras or whatever? New agers are even worse than nofap shills

Maybe you should leave /pol?

yea this is the main issue i see. I try to raise it higher, edging is quite dangerous during noFap

I'm on Any Forums for the infinitismal chance that I finally get to see some actual valuable information that will improve my life, but so far that has never happened. So you're right, I should leave Any Forums, but so should you.

It's simple.

Masturbation = Fine
Lots of masturbation = Bad
Ejaculating = Fine
Lots of Ejaculating = Bad (Unless you're having sex)
Errections = Fine
Wet dreams = Fine

Porn = BAD. Plain and simple.

>t. Nofapper for 15 years. Have quit porn and masturbation for good. Cannot tell you how long I've gone because I've lost count. I have zero desire to jerk off or watch porn ever.

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>what would be wrong with just masturbating but not ejaculating / orgasming, aka edging?
You know I tried that for a while and you want to know what I realized? It's a massive waste of time. It was just cope that I was addicted to porn and "if I don't coom then I'm not a coomer!" It's absolute nonsense. Now I'm free from porn and it is genuinely gratifying. I spend that time reading and learning an instrument instead of playing with my cock like an idiot.

The only good thing about fapping is that if you fap a lot, your cardio improves drastically. Other than that, it destroys your soul.

Nigger
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11760788/
> These data demonstrate that acute abstinence does not change the neuroendocrine response to orgasm but does produce elevated levels of testosterone in males.


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>if edging is also bad, then how do you explain accidental / uncontrollable erections, and also wet dreams?
I dont see the connection between these.
Masturbating for hours on end, daily for months or even years will wreck your heart.

But i need to empty my balls

That I can agree on though, porn should be avoided. Using your imagination is far better
You mean the testosterone spikes which lower over time? Try harder.

If the testosterone spikes are the effects placebo?

You didn't even read it

Lol, for 2 days. Then it's dropping quick. That's why monks practice nofap.

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Nofap is a meme.

>do nofap
>get horny
>start fucking coworker
>make her pussy my cum dump
>nothing else changes

It's good fuel to get you talking to the opposite sex if you're shy but that's about it.

>right now am on day 12 or so, and feeling more godlike each day.

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If only you knew how much energy you're wasting with that attitude. Not even funny. baka

The thing is that watching porn or fantasizing about sex drain your energy faster.

Nofappers and orgasm withholders are going to cause themselves prostate problems later on in life.

I'm two weeks in boys. I'm married though. Eventually the wife is going to get horny and come ride my cock. Lately I've been letting her have 5 or 6 orgasm then just giving her a kiss goodnight and going to bed or getting out of bed if it's the morning. I can orgasm without ejaculating. It's really weird. I learned it from some Asian dude

The scientific conclusion on nofap is that testosterone does increase drastically after about 7 days of nofap, but afterwards lowers back to normal levels after 8-10 days. So yes it technically increases testosterone but only temporarily.
That might be one of the only good things nofap can do for you, to get you so sexually frustrated you get laid. But if you never talk to women in a non-professional context then it doesn't matter.

I post studies and you post some obscure forum thread
ok

Masturbating lowers the androgen receptors in your brain and increase the estrogen receptors.

>what would be wrong with just masturbating but not ejaculating / orgasming, aka edging?
it primes the body for orgasm, triggering dopamine circuits (dopamine is a salience neurotransmitter), and makes it more likely for nocturnal emissions to occur due to more activity in the prostate and testicles
>if edging is also bad, then how do you explain accidental / uncontrollable erections, and also wet dreams?
erections occur in order to keep the penis in functioning order
in fact, the longer you go without ejaculations, the more often you will be erect, and the more engorged you will be even when not erect, over time quite visibly increasing the size of your penis
there are very easily understandable natural reasons for this, let me know if you want me to go into more detail on that
as for nocturnal emissions, that almost invariably occurs due to being used to frequent ejaculation
this is why when you stop ejaculating consciously, nocturnal emissions will occur less and less frequently, until they stop occurring at all (and even before that point, you'll literally start becoming aware right before it's about to happen in your dreams and be able to stop it before it happens, I speak from experience)

Orgasms re good, sex is good, but only between persons. If you beat your dick you are using something for something it was not made for, depleting yourself in the process. In proper sex you lose yourself into your lover, and beget an offspring, so there is a trade-off. Jacking off just consume you
Jews know this and that is why they push pornography so much, read Freud for example.

nofap is a gaslighting campaign
this board is nothing but astroturf

I also almost never get random boners anymore. But have no problem getting it up for sex

>I can orgasm without ejaculating. It's really weird. I learned it from some Asian dude


Hello sirs,

DO YOU CLENCH THE BUTT CHEEKS TO REDUCE THE SQUIRT?

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only time to ever ejaculate is to impregnate a woman in love

otherwise, never

no ejaculation leads to a golden life for men

Sure thing buddy, prostrate cancer is on the race because guys aren't masturbating enough!

just go jogging, man. I jog now for like 20 minutes a day and feel pretty good

The kegal muscles? Yea

100% correct
it's a retarded myth that not ejaculating leads to prostate cancer
not only is the association extremely tenuous, but it's far more likely to be the exact opposite if there even is a causative factor, i.e. that people with prostate problems to begin with masturbate less

people actually live their lives based on anonymous posts on a message board associated with racism and clinically diagnosable paranoia. I guess there are a lot of empty humans out there

OP calls people "NoFap shills" as if there's any financial gain to be made by anyone by less masturbation in the world. He is truly a lost cause and is just addicted to rubbing his dick while daydreaming for a large portion of his lifetime. We should just have pity.

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i Find if i put loads of pressure on my pirenium before the squirt i can prolong the ecstasy.

I'm going to the mattress mart I'm gonna shit the bed bros wish me luck

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What do you expect from a troon canadian redditor.

im not letting the internet decide if i wank or not, eat my shit, ''self controlled'' faggots

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It just boost test temporary for few days.
Cumming also releases sleep hormones so that's the fable boost of energy.

Everything else is placebo or simple dopamine addiction. Arguably you may go do something productive to get your dopamine fix or just play videa or eat whole day.

You still spurt... It just goes into your bladder. Notice the foamy piss.

Fapping is fine but porn is not

get a wife

aw shucks man, i'm still gonna do it anyway sometimes i cum a little yes.

You could say i'm something of a coomer myself.

It's not temporary at all. The study you are referencing didn't even last 3 weeks.

If I don't yank my crank, I'm just going to wake up in the morning humping my mattress and cummies in my shorts. How am I suppose to keep the testosterone?

as for the prostate cancer myth, It was literally one study made in 1998 that showed a correlation between a bunch of men getting older, and people still think it proves that prostate cancer is associated to not masturbating.
Remember, for the same official reason they would say that vaccines are not harmful.

just empty your balls. Its that simple.

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Edging to porn for hours is worse than just nutting to a 10 minute video because you’re draining all your brains dopamine receptors, so now nothing in the real world feels nearly as good as porn and masturbation, you’re addicted and need your fix over and over. This translates to no motivation, no desire for real world interactions, makes you feel more anxious and stressed out about the world, it’s one of the most insidious addictions in the world.

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aw fuck that BS man, just stop talking and start spurtin like cowboy with a spittoon

"NoFap" was coined by people who espoused it as a method for kicking a compulsive porn habit. No negative effect was ascribed to the jacking off or load-blowing itself. It's like staying out of bars while you're trying to quit smoking - you're not trying to quit the drinking or hanging out, you're just avoiding the one scenario where you know you're highly likely to say "Fuck it" and spark up a cig. Hence the whole notion of a pre-determined, limited period of abstention in the first place.

The blending in of ideas about semen retention and sexual tantra is a separate thing entirely that only started to happen later.

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