So are they like

Winning? They took Mariupol and seem to be gaining ground in the Donbas…

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We're losing, Ukrainians are already aroung Moscow CNN said so

Damn that’s crazy, Zelensky must really be a good commander eh?

Azov has already reached Magadan

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Z-bros... we lost..

>send minimal military to keep the fire going
>while your biggest enemy continuously pours in billions of dollar for 'support'
>cash cow can only go so long
>nuke the fuck out of everyone once they are broke and call it a day
fucking genius

They're making slow progress.
But it wasn't supposed to be slow.

the mods over at /k/ are on suicide watch
they allowed all manner of azov/mariupol musing and fan fiction for months, but now azov is surrendered, suddenly there's nothing to talk about
/k/ abandoned Azov faster than they abandoned the Afghan army during the Taliban takeover
why is /k/ so gay and why are the wrong about everything all the time?

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This is controversial but I actually think it’s pretty based how Biden actually got the fuck out of Afghanistan
Sure it was all sorts of fucked up, but that war was fucked up in general and wasn’t getting better. Pull the plug.

if you're actually looking for an unbiased answer then the answer is 'yes' albeit embarrassingly slowly. The stated goal was never to capture all of Ukraine but stated goals *were* demilitarization and 'denazification' of Ukraine which most Russians won't accept if they don't get it because without it the problem will inevitably return and it will all have felt pointless. The west is aware Putin can't just call it quits now (despite allegedly achieving his goals) and by all appearances wants this to be a forever war for Russia so they're prepared to pump Ukraine full of resources for as long as they want regardless of what economic consequences it has back home.
tl;dr: our leaders (both sides) are a bunch of incompetent faggot boomers using old tactics with zero regard for if they destroy the future of their children (so typical boomers)
>t. diaspora

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We are losing, dont you listen to CNN?

Dosent even matter much, unfortunately.
They think things can go back to some normal, they won't finish the job, which is more complex then Ukraine, US dident either...

Civilization won't make it by thr looks ofnit, humanity will though.

What else can it be expected to be? This isn't supposed to be like occupying a foreign country the way the US does. The Russians aren't leaving. They intend to stay... forever. That means they have to screen the entire population to get rid of the pro-Ukrainians... encourage them to leave. Essentially ethnic cleansing, just like Ukraine wanted to do to Donetsk and Luhansk.
This is a different way of war and it should be done slowly and carefully.
They're showing amazing restraint because the normal way to do this is to just kill everyone in sight, but they want to preserve the pro-Russians so they want to go slow and filter the population.

agreed, the main point i'm making tho is that /k/ are furry faggot gear larpers who actually thought the ANA could hold back the taliban and that Azov could single handidly defeat the DPR/LPR + Russian army
god knows what else they believe

Nobody disagrees it needed to be done (except jews). The problem is how badly he fucked it up.

How could it not be fucked up when 3 incompetent admins before it had been fucking it up for decades?

Based on German government behavior I believe it was supposed to end like in a week:
Quick rush to Kiev, replacing Zelensky with puppet regime, demoralized Ukrainian nation just accepting it and going back to their lives like nothing happened.

Well, except Russian military proved to be extremely corrupt and incompetent and apparently nationalistic sympathies in Ukraine grew significantly after 2014.

is Ukraine demilitarised and Ukraine government denazified? Is NATO pushed back to its 90s reach?

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/k/ probably has a lot of ex US military that believe in the forever war interventionist strategy of the past 30 years.
At this point the only way to remove the nationalists is to occupy the whole country honestly. They’d probably be best to grind down the military in the east. Once they’re all dead it won’t matter how many weapons Ukrainians have.
Will the EU really just stop all Russian imports forever?

Just ignore the fact that they initially tried for Kiev.

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Yeah, there's (some) truth in that. But there was room in there to prepare for a more orderly retreat, and Biden, in large part due to the election fuckery and also because his admin just didn't seem to prioritize it properly when they got in office, massively exacerbated the problem. It was gonna be pretty fucked up no matter what, but it didn't need to be Biden-tier fucked up. I have no idea what Trump's idea of a pullout would have been like, probably not pretty either, but I can only imagine he at least would have been aware he had a deadline before it arrived.

>occupy the whole country honestly
why can't they achieve it?

>Quick rush to Kiev,
That was clearly a feint which the Ukrainians fell for, the goal is to smash Eastern Ukrainian forces, which is happening day by day, hundreds are either being eliminated or are defecting, why do you guys keep repeating this?