You can't enter the club

Because nato routinely turns stable countries into total terror filled shitholes with its bombs of democracy

we don't have one, but ottomans used eagle. A really original choice

No. Turkey's location is far too valuable and the Turks know that.

While I understand why they don't want Sweden to join, why Finland too?

Already in, and I welcome any other democracies that wish for protection from the bullies of the world.
After all if the world is under one big mutual defense alliance then nobody would be stupid enough to trigger article 5 on themselves.

They don't even have a coat of arms lol

why are we voting against finland again? just block sweeden and let finland join

Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. You helped terrorists who killed people in our country. why would we want other terrorist lovers? And you vetoed our EU membership at every opportunity.

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Yup, nothing ever happened in that Island that got split into four corners with three NATO members fighting over it.

Damn, good to know regardless.

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It's probably because Erdogan is a slimy bastard and wants to take opportunity of the situation. But also maybe because Sweden and Finland are applying together so Turkey sees it as one package.

Turkish meaning of your country cunt(am) and plum(erik)
Amerika=cunt+plum

Why doesn't Japan join in?
Is it because of your rising debt?

If Finland becomes a member, Sweden will still be protected. Terrorists will continue to stay in Sweden.

Erdogan almost got coup'd by "NATO" not even that long ago, its hilarious that you still think you have control over him. That Russian bomber shootdown was NATO backdooring him as well most likely, judging by the speed with which he ran to Brussels and demanded an explanation. Then there was the Russian ambassador killing with Gulenist (CIA) ties. America's falling apart and just acting sloppy, or maybe the modern times have finally caught up with them and you cant hide glow ops like you used to.

But you're all in a trainwreck just waiting to happen, a trainwreck that looks like its DESPERATELY trying to suicide Europe into another "world war" so we go die fighting Russians or just starve. Which is funny because kikes like Victoria Nuland openly ADMIT thats what they want to happen.

Nah, one day were just gonna enter a strategic alliance with Russia and you sharts will be told to fuck off kindly with your overpriced LNGs, your democracy revolutions, and you can go have a civil war with all the nonwhite human garbage you got going on back in NA

Were not fighting Russia

why do we punish finland for swedish foreign policy

hoi japanese kurd

news about warabistan
asahi.com/ajw/articles/13899838

Does NATO have any benefits for Turkey if the USA refuses to even sell them their weapons?
You should just quit.

Why cant you fuckers win against goat herders outside of Holltwood??

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Why do we have to die in terrorist attacks supported by our European and American friends?

You should not be there either.

are you russian?

>islamic dictatorship who has been flooding europe with "migrants" for years
>accusing anyone else of supporting terrorism

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Both butthurt belts simp hard for the opposite superpower. But imagine if the two superpowers became 1, Butthurt belters would go into a schizoid rage and kill themselves,ridding the world of their many evils, far more than either superpower ever caused. If Ukraine and Mexico could do it, so can US and Russia. Become 1

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no, i'm not as far as i know.

>lost 10,000 aircraft to rice farmers in Vietnam... LOST 10 THOUSAND AIRCRAFT TO RICE FARMERS!! >"Top Gun Maverick american numbah one fuck yeah!!!"

Kkkkkkk

Why is Sweden and Finland important to you? do you think we are unimportant and why?

We will abolish NATO and form a new alliance that will be exactly the same except with Sweden and Finland in place of Turkey.

Or, more likely, we'll agree to give him weapons or support in Northern Syria or something and he'll back down

>>can’t even defeat goat herders
Neither could Russia

He is from Portugal, don't take his opinions seriously.

muh colonialism

WHY WONT YOU JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT AMERICA YOU OBSESSED FUCK
EVERYDAY

AMERICA
AMERICA
AMERICA
AMERICA

HAHA AMERICANS ARE INSULTING ME AND EVERYONE THINKS IM SCHIZO
AMERICA
AMERICA
AMERICA
AMERICA
YEMEN
HYPERSONIC MISSILES
HYPER SONIC AIDS
AMERICA
UKRAINE
CIA

Give it a fucking rest. Get off 4 chan. We just insult you. What you are doing isnt trolling. Its just you bashing your head into a wall while we insult you for making loud unending schizo sounds

Thats my ted talk.

hosting the largest number of forced asylum seekers in the world
We are the country that does. yes we are a guilty.
We should not have accepted them into our country and let them die.

>we'll agree to give him weapons

>paying for american garbage

Do Nato faghots really??
Your planes dont even fly

already bought 2 tickets for this upcoming cruisekino now Im deciding which hot slut to take with so she can give me a 2 hour long handjob

shits gonna be cash, cruisebros

See
Get offline.

It's funny how Afghanistan managed to kick their asses both and force them to leave.

>Watt duo?
Be glad you won't be pushed into wars lmao.

I entered the club against all odds against me, Finland&Sweden don't even know how deep I roll while they laugh at me for some reason

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You're right, members of the eu can insult anyone. we should only thank when they insult

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>force
America forced themselves out, the Taliban just had to wait in the mountains for them to leave.

They literally are our rent a cops. We fund them and its public record. Its funny.
Thread deleted maybe

Their seat in NATO unironically makes more sense than yours.

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There is no mechanism to remove a country from NATO. Turkey, despite being a problem, is never leaving.

We took Iraq in a single month

Because fuck you Asian slave, that's why

NATO is gay lol

no because turkey is all bark and no bite and they'll do what their american masters tell them to do

Every time someone mentions we have been loosely allied with the taliban since 2017, we fund them now and we have 2500 security forces" there the vatnik or chang deletes the thread out of rage.

They had to invent a defeat.

England should've invaded you, how could they stand for that?

Sweden can into NATO, Finland can't get in, don't take in Finland Turkey

I'm never gonna buy an iskender again

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we are not a problem. we don't just want to die in terrorist attacks. we just don't want you to support terrorists.

youtube.com/watch?v=9xk2vPPMaGY

youtube.com/watch?v=JhlIGdbw1kE

They are "shitholes" because westerners exploit them

But they did remember

Its on consensus. Turkey cant block. Thats the joke.

Oh shut the fuck up. Get a new subject you boring ass serf.

As we can see Vietnam became a socialist paradise after they freed themselves from capitalist colonial oppression

Turkey's problems with the rest of NATO extend beyond this current issue with Sweden and Finland. They cause problems with Greece, Cyprus, they're not strictly western aligned, they're supportive of political islamists who seek to upend MENA status-quo which would be bad for Med security. It's just a bad marriage.

Richer than romania

I don't want to sound like a racist but it's mostly because Blacks have been out of the scientific progress for a long time and so even though we share the same continent the north is richer and more peaceful compared to subsaharan countries.
The same would be for South America had it not been for their european population, hell even with it they're still suffering.

brb moving there

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>Ukraine could have been reunited with the brotherland like they were a mere 30 years ago in 2 weeks without any civilian casualties if NATO didn't start sending hundred thousand dollar military equipment to actual nazis.
demonic alliance

I dont see a problem with turkeys stance. They cant block them, but by saying something they can get things changed. I like sweden and finland, but if turkey has a point, it should be investigated and dealt with.

keep crying cuck ill let americans stay at my own house just to spite u, u spoiled fuck and there is nothing u can do about it literally nothing

Yes all those “civilians” opposing Russian troops are Nazis

good meme. turkey can flood migrants to europe but it does not. when erdogan is gone euros will see what kind of savages we got here

Oh shit, they're catching up on us.

You are a Greek immigrant. I don't expect you to be impartial. but i'm not sorry that we don't allow you to ethnic cleansing in cyprus

pic related

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Is that you?

Honestly our opinion is we dont know. It should be looked into and fixed if true.
Cant blame turkey. They will get pushed around if it isnt looked into, then kafka trapped by euros if it goes on.
Americans just dont know.

Scran a shit

Why?

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You want to make money by transporting the oil from Iraq to the Mediterranean via a pipeline. but millions of people died because of your request. Just don't support terrorists. thats all

Like poland was stuck in a kafka trap.
Americans dont like kafka traps

you are fucking subhuman and the only reason why you're slightly developed is because of france

buy eggplant kebab if you can find it in turkey, much better than iskender

Then it needs to get fixed and the only way is doing this so it is investigated and stopped. Cant blane you guys for bitching if its true. I personally dont know.
Thats all I got.

The thing is, it's not the first time Turkey has caused a problem. They've made aggressive naval moves vis-a-vis the Greeks and the Cypriots in the east Med, and were buying S-400s not long ago. Every few years, it's something else. These are not the things you want in a NATO partner.
Buddy, nobody but nobody thinks Turkey doesn't cause problems in NATO. Not as a function of their concern for basic security, but for their ambitious nationalism.

You wanted to realize this project in the south of Turkey. but it didn't. Now, because of this project, we have to fight Russia-Iran and terrorists(usa-europe-russia backed) in our south.

could u elaborate on this

As long as they are nato, we have to listen to them. I cant give you an opinion on something I dont know enough about. If we treat then like dogs long enough, they will act like dogs just like any other person. And you cant blame them for biting. I really dont know enough beyond that.

Turkey is doing the blocking thing because they take in Kurds

>They've made aggressive naval moves vis-a-vis the Greeks...

pic related
we just want justice

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onlara göre adalet bu zaten lmao

>We took

Kek
Nigga
You reached the capital and just that. Nothing more. And received help from 40 countries for that.
You are being kick from there right now.
You are only able to kill women and children

Europeans looked down on poles. Thought they were toilet cleaners and only would give them toilet cleaner jobs. No new educations or jobs. So the poles even though they are competent were stuck cleaning toilets.

A good analogy is
A new guy moves to a city. A rumor starts hes a drug addict but he isnt. So he cant get a job because "hes a drug addict". He becomes homeless without money, finally does drugs to cope and becomes a drug addict.

Kafka trap.

Why does Turkey hate Finland

See

sadly yes. if we want justice, they say roach.
we'll be good n! if we do what they want

Maybe don't confuse political opposition with terrorism. Why should you get to impose your anti-democratic internal policies on independent countries?

Has a terrorist bomb exploded in a place you have visited before? If I had gone to the same place 1 day later, I would have died

>Maybe don't confuse political opposition with terrorism
there is a Kurdish political party (HDP) with open ties to PKK (their MPs have photoshoots with them with AKs in their hands like literally) in turkey and have MPs in the parliament. We are somehow accused of confusing political opposition with terrorism? how does this shit work now

they still do yeh which's why the lion's share of poles today no longer subscribe to the idea of european integration/solidarity and show little to no interest in deepening mutual dependence with western european states and rather engage in trade-deals with americans, brits etc. hence the outrage by the likes of macron and willingness to sanction us for whatever meme accusations they come up with and accrediting whatever economic success to "european gibs"

>Has a terrorist bomb exploded in a place you have visited before?
No, because my people were never savages who went and burned entire villages of minorities. You reap what you sow. If you have some actual terrorists there because of that, then it's your problem, but that doesn't mean all kurds are terrorists just because you say so.

based erdogan trolling nordoids

turk with a german flag
legit chuckled

turks are the only people in NATO who actually paid for anything, euros are lazy bastards who just leech off it, good for turkey

>with open ties to PKK (their MPs have photoshoots with them with AKs in their hands like literally)
Absurdly fucking based

>burned entire villages of minorities

I understand that you are one of those terrorists who settled in finland You know there are thousands of Isis members saying the same things as you, right?

literally american
and no not military
turkey deserves to fuck euros over however they see fit

based ally

Kek without Nato Turkey will become Iran tier failed state.

Why do pvt Gonzalez zog bots think they can speak on anything?

we don't fuck euros. they are fucking us lol.

It doesn't matter what they are saying because it's an internationally KNOWN FACT that you did it to the kurds. You are the original terrorist.

Yeah, they will kick out the second largest contributor to take in two countries with meme armies

they are fucking all of germany

not to mention the Bosphorus vs ??? some snow??

While you were drinking your beer in Germany and laughing at those who died in Turkey, I felt sorry for the Turkish citizens who died. Don't talk about things you don't know. i never liked erdo

shhh dont burst the bubble these europeans live in

we are going to use our veto right because we don't want terrorists like you to kill us

>look at how much money we spend!
>look at how many troops we have!
Any other NATO nation with over 10 million people would wipe the floor with you.

i'm not turkish i dont know what you're talking about
turks contributed far more than any euros did except maybe poles

europe isnt a single country, you'd probably find a lot of sympathy in poland, sweden gave shelter to countless communist era butcherers from the former eastern block and refused to extradite them to poland to face a fair trial

they actually share culture with other members, unlike you
what is an alliance worth if the members hate eachother?

maybe idk. if it weren't for us libya would be russian colony for sure tho.

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>NOOO! You're a terrorist for telling the truth!!

war is not about sharing cultures go be a hippie somewhere else.

The trolls have come for fun. I'm out

a shame there's no sami terrorists that turkey could support

an alliance is

I wonder why that is. Oh wait, we never burned their villages down.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suohpanterror

oh wow look it's a european doing the holier than thou shtick i've never seen this before

what culture? i don't have anything in common with swedes, they are racist and unpleasant people in my experience and quite frankly dont have anything NATO could benefit from

no work and no play

their whole population is like 5 million and half of them are suicidal

ngl that's incredibly cringe

an alliance is about war not about reading tom of finland

>finnish terrorists are literally just memelords
neat

Can't take any criticism?

>an alliance is about war not about reading tom of finland
an alliance not built on trust will shatter
feeling kinship with the people you have to defend if attacked is very important

then feel free to break away from the pact if sweden gets attacked, just like i hope everyone would abandon turkey if they got attacked

lol
During war times people set aside their differences and work together if they have a common goal. It happened countless times throughout history. We were allied with France for centuries against European countries and then with Germany during WW!. Our cultural differences didn't matter at all

>feeling kinship
werent europeans gutting eachother en masse like mere 70 years ago? what kind of a kinship is that? considering turkey is not waging war against Europe for like 100 years now, we are more trustworthy than germans or french or brits.

i'm not a turk, i just understand why they are irked by european hypocrites

you genocided each other for centuries and centuries until we took war away from you after WW2

face it turkey is a more important NATO member than swedish mongrels will ever be

there's only two countries who ever pulled their weight in NATO (besides us) - turkey and poland. the rest of you can go to hell desu

>what kind of a kinship is that?
you would not get it
>we are more trustworthy than germans or french or brits.
the french, probably
you have to look far for a more disgusting people

mutt delusion

cope and seethe, you people are blood thirsty maniacs, you burnt europe to the ground and handed world affairs to us and the russians. if we hadn't invented the nuke you'd have started again after 20 years

Ok, now we've gotten to generalizing Europeans as a single people.

true, im not refuting that

Even bigger schizo

Shut up fat

Yeah we know. The fact is americans are descendants of people who were in the same trap and left. Now we can fix it one country at a time. Poland is unique because they are fiesty and very conservative like most americans, so the bond is natural. We view Poles, ukers, aussies and canadians kind of as family and equals which is rare for Americans. Plus bantering with you guys is always golden. You guys are the future leaders of Europe, you just dont know it yet but you seem to be figuring it out lately. What is ours is yours. Enough crjnge out of me.

you're just mad you never got to respond in kind against the swedes

America pulls most of the weight but sometimes says it doesn't

i aspire to have your magical foresight capabilities mighty seer

>bang on about how kinship is an important factor in a military alliance
>be in a military alliance with people you regard as disgusting and not the ones you feel deep sense of camaraderie and kinship with
almost as if the turk had a point

Turkey will back down. Erdogan is clearly doing this to get some backdoor deals and to sway internal politics of turkey in his favour

yeah maybe, maybe go fuck yourself
clean my toilet

new alliance

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Do people actually think fucking Turkey is going to stop this thing when in reality the US runs NATO? Le everyone has to agree thing is a meme in reality.

you should pitch it to biden
maybe you can predict what will happen aswell?

probably a lot of seethe from arrogant western euros

like you arent arrogant

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You seriously think Americans and Poles care a rats ass about your shit country? They benefit nothing from an alliance with you alone.

turkey has the Bosporus and 80M people
you have nothing

maybe USA wants us to vote against them. so they won't be antagonist.

you also have the northern cyprus sea, marmara and a big chunk of the black sea

the soul of simo hayha courses through finns
be careful about what you say

their positioning is pretty valuable no?

how? i cannot think of any value of the land geopolitically speaking. what is russia going to fucking do, invade central europe by rolling tanks through finland and sweden?

maybe there's some value in radar or airspace however that is more iceland which they hilarious used once to troll the brits via threatening to leave NATO in the cod wars

meanwhile turkey has not just istanbul but a key location in the middle east, Anatolia is probably one of the most valuable pieces of land in the entire world. regardless of what turkey does they'll always be valuable as long as they hold that

doesnt the united states have military bases in every nato country? im sure having some right next to moscow and saint petersburg would be straight power
isnt that exactly why putin is sperging out?

I doubt we will give authorization to nato bases or missiles on our soil. And nukes have been already ruled out.

yes we do but that's rather useless in the post-USSR world, actual combat between the two countries was never on the table because of MAD so it was merely for the proxy wars of the cold war.

and having danes+balts+turks in NATO gives our carrier groups access to the black and baltic seas which works as a fine alternative to a base

why are you staying in germany?
planning on permanent residence?

Those are militarily capable cunts, none of which thought Ukraine was militarily capable of standing against Rusia monke. Poles maybe knew how to kick rusian ass.

i can get citizenship now thanks to the ampel :^)
work

How ignorant are you? Finland and Sweden are geopolitically invaluable for the control of the Baltic Sea.

we don't need you in the slightest

so you prefer to live in a german city? or is it just for as long as you work there
dont you find the accent unbearable?

Who doesn't hate Finland

i moved with my gf and find the additional vacation to be a good tradeoff for 50% taxation and a lower salary since i made money in crypto beforehand

accent is fine, the only bad euro accent is the spanish gay lisp one imo

So? We don't need you either. The Bosphorus has no value to us, and neither does it have any value to the Americans or Poles. It has only value to the Meds and so an alliance of you, the US and Poland would make no sense because they would not care about you.

>our carrier groups having access to the black sea is of no interest to america
???

Everyone hates Finland, press H to hate Finland

Why would it be?

Turk here. We should let Finland enter NATO in exchange for renewed trade and also to spite the Swedes.

Because we can just park one or two of our 11 supercarriers in the black sea and immediately gain extensive power projection in ukraine and the caucuses? I'm american not turkish

>spanish gay lisp one imo
french is worse

regarding what you said earlier "you people are blood thirsty maniacs"
are you not american of european descent?

Both are joining, THOUGH

But why would you be interested in projecting power there if NATO didn't exist? What interest would you have there?

yes i'm a mutt of NW european heritage but we weren't in europe during that time so we're innocent of colonialism and WW1/WW2 era things :^)
you can pin the 30 years war and such on us though

its also handy to monitor russian exports that pass through the bosphorus into the mediterranean sea

Turkey saviors of the White Race

>what interest do we have in being able to project force in areas where russia is active and over their key warm water port

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>PKK and NATO should be friends

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What interest would you have in Russia if NATO didn't exist?

you carry the gene you are no exception
you should not favor turks

imagine thinking this lol

the power vacuum of the post WW2 world?
we also inherited the british distrust/dislike of the russians to some degree

NATO BIG
10x bigger than rusia monke
10x better weapons
10x more strategic
youtube.com/watch?v=-YJy6r-ZKlE

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i like how canada is just a giant radar dish

nordcucks mad asfuck
lmoa
get cucked again you effeminate faggot maggots lmoa

Obviously Turkey is a valuable NATO member (extremely valuable geographic position, high population, and decent military industry), however I can't help but feel like in the long run it'll just always be too much of a problem and too much of a burden to have a member of NATO that's not actually committed to any of the same objectives as the rest of NATO. Having a 5th column country like that can be a huge liability (just like Hungary in the EU). But then again, both the EU and NATO have the same problem that members basically cannot be kicked out, so we're probably stuck with that problem until it literally blows up in our face.

imagine if virtue signaling costs nords NATO membership and they later get invaded lol

>virtue signaling

i wish man, that'd be hilarious

Why are you like this? You're just as bad as the Russians. Just savage animals.

>imagine if virtue signaling costs nords NATO membership and they later get invaded lol
putin's plan is in place

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I sure hope so :D
fuck nordcuck faggots
nordcountry=SNOWNIGGER TRANNY

state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/

pkk=ypg=alphabet=sdf(Syrian Democratic Forces)
democracy changes everything

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is NOT A DUCK.

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finland will be good addition to nato.

sweden is irrelevant+i watched midsommer they were cunts+they won't join nato until they have new government with brain.

nope

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retard. strategically finalnd and sweden joining nato would completely isolate russia out of the baltic and add tremendius pressure by making st. petersburg and its ports completely blocked off.

tldr: any naval maneuvers in baltic sea becomes suicidal for the russian navy.

now the news is saying turkey will vote favourably if they're let back in the f-35 program. so erdogan backpedaled immediately when he got to negotiate those backroom deals with the US

world is run by jews

turkey democratic Kurdish terrorist attack 37 dead, 15 undead, mutilated people, 48 injured

youtube.com/watch?v=q7dY-Ts4zFE

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If 40,000 Swedes and Finns die, we'll happily say yes

you know erd*gan is spineless faggot right? if he delays swedes for a while i will be more than happy.

Do you want to die in a terrorist attack?

Does nato not see Turks as human?

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Europeans matter. Turks who cares?

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What if they let Russia in and turn against Japan instead?

I don’t get it

Turkey is the dark horse that can't leave well enough alone. We only put up with them because of strategic issues. If Russia stops being a threat we'll put our foot down.

youtube.com/watch?v=zqLEO5tIuYs
You should watch this video until the end, very important information is hidden in it.

The Armenian and Greek diaspora in America should be deported. They are the ones who produce false information about Turkey and Turks.

Based roach

NATO is the 4th Reich

The symbol even hides a swastika.