It's official, Sweden will apply for NATO membership.
I made this thread just as an "I told you so" to the vatnik I was arguing with here a few days ago that kept claiming "nu-uh Sweden will never ever join NATO not gonna happen Sweden has a long history of neutrality it is impossible etc"
Can't imagine anyone is shocked, but I sure look forward to Sweden being forced to man up a little and actually build some military. Also, it will be hilarous to actually be able to tell Russia to fuck off with some weight behind the words
Evan Martin
4 decides which country will join NATO next
Matthew Perry
Yes, we big boys now.
HEY RUSSIA. FUCK YOU
Andrew Roberts
chill, lets make some shady deals with Turkey so they won't veto us, before we go full psycho wojak on vatniks
Jeremiah Brown
Turkey already said they won't block us, read it earlier today
Dominic Evans
very interesting, source? If so, I don't really get why it should take several months for application to be approved by everyone
Ryder Rivera
Worst you’ll have to do is ‘kiss the ring’ and call out the PKK, Erdogan wasn’t going to ever block you but he definitely wants something for it
Ryan Jenkins
I'm Irish and have contacted my local representatives and told them I will vote only for politicians that support joining NATO and again requested their support for the expulsion of all Russian diplomats and citizens that have not renounced their Russian citizenship
I hope its just that. Would be good for our social democrats to get a little scare. They are fucking retards when it comes to being politically correct little bitches.
If Sweden and Finland join and Turkey stops trying to gain something out of the situation it will unironically completely destroy the hopes that Russia has for the restoration of the Russian Empire.
>The northern part of NATO now has combined 200 modern fighters >The north now has the combined missile assets of Norway, Sweden and Finland >Any Russian warship in black sea will be sailing next to NATO countries the whole way to the atlantic >If hypothetically the Russians tried doing something retarded like attacking the baltics they'd get hit by Poland, Sweden, Finland and Norway before any NATO soldiers even engaged the Russian ground forces
The baltic countries are pretty much orgasming right now.
Austin Bailey
The new golden horde
Luke Torres
Good news, thanks user to keep it semi-/k/, what kind of rifle do I need to fuck american army girls when our bases are built?
Who looks at Ukraine and says: that looks like fun, i want that for my people.
The same people who want Sweden dead. Thats who.
Luis Brooks
Somaliland
Colton Morgan
kek, reminds me of finlands flag
Elijah Cruz
Israel
Ryan Lee
Just to be clear if Russia balkanizes and dissolves there's no fucking way Finland wants Karelia back. It's tainted now. Petsamo up in the north would be nice to reconnect Finland to the arctic sea and those nickel mines though.
If it was possible to get Karelia back without committing genocide on the gopniks that inhabit it then it might be worthwhile.
Listen kid if you’re gonna be in the big boys club with the Anglos and other Colonisers you’re gonna have to get your hands dirty, evict them all and send them on a long march into the Siberian wastes. That land is yours
Yes, I'm sure Russia will ignore that the ink hasn't even dried on the agreements UK, Germany, France and the US has signed, and attack. fucking vatniggers, go away
Aiden Baker
Which one?
Jeremiah Murphy
Yes!
Ayden Lewis
Mongolia
Cameron Gonzalez
You can grab the land bridge the Moskals stole from you, Vyborg, access to Ladoga, etc. Saint Petersburg is definitely a lost cause baring complete expulsions/genocide though. At the very least those are some of the least retarded Russians in Russia.
my lord, imagine the vatnig seethe when they drop the retarded "must be near atlantic" restriction and half of the map turns yellow
Juan Torres
>Cyprus Impossible because they're still on conflict with Turkey. No country in conflict has ever joined NATO and obviously Turkey would veto it. Not to mention a third of the Cypriot economy is fed by rubles.
Jason Morris
Cypriots will be the next to be thrown under the bus, as long as Anglos get to keep their base their I doubt they’d care. Greekoids have been more of a problem over the years than it’s worth
Joshua Campbell
Or simply rename the entire ocean 'The Atlantic'.
Carter Reyes
Just change NATO to the OFN from that one HOI mod and let's get this over with
Maybe if you showed more respect to neutrality and diplomatic treaties they wouldn't feel the need to do this.
Brody Kelly
There will be no permanent NATO bases no nukes in Sweden per Maggan
Eli Rodriguez
Nah, NATO flag looks way to cool and the name sounds better, just make another organisation (Alliance of Democracies?) to include all our other friends
Julian Peterson
Serbia.
Eli Scott
Good idea and maybe keep turkey out of that one until they've couped the retard
Luis Robinson
ODN+F
Original Democratic Nations + Friends
Thomas Lewis
Taiwan
Jeremiah Gonzalez
That doesn't narrow it down.
John Cox
Monke must be furious.
Xavier Collins
Are you implying Russia would've invaded if Ukraine WAS in NATO? Also, how did non-membership work out for Georgia and Chechnya?
Charles Reyes
>If it was possible to get Karelia back without committing genocide on the gopniks that inhabit it then it might be worthwhile. It's a worthy cause. If nothing else then just because of principle, the genocide will just be the cherry on top. And just think of the tourism opportunities, where else can you hunt Russians for sport?
Eli Murphy
>Vatnigs seething >Roaches screaming >Sven is laughing NATO numbah won Taiwan Numbah too China numbah One Hundred Ninety Four. Russia is 195
The government has made the formal decision to apply for membership in Nato, prime minister Magdalena Andersson (S) told press together with M-leader Ulf Kristerson.
Andersson sais the for conflict in our neighborhood is increased with Swedish membership, ant that the government has told Nato that one wants to become a member country.
-It is now clear that there is a broad consensus in the Swedish parliament for Sweden to join Nato, sais the prime minister.
She describes it as a historical shift. Ulf Kristerson sais that both S and M are in agreement that membership in Nato gives increased security. Russia will not like this, he sais. Both Finland and Sweden must be ready for disinformation, hate, and "hostile actions".
The government has also come to the decision to make a proposition that will make it possible for Sweden to accept military aid from all EU- and Nato countries.
Luke Cooper
You would have thought so but, their 'conditions' of no nukes or bases on their territories is troubling. As they are applying to join how is it they set the criteria? Finland wants to join and very welcome to them.They will be an asset to NATO but just what are the Swedes bringing, do we really need another half arsed member
Kevin Young
Burger apu needs an AR
Hunter Cruz
Gotland and sneaky subs in the Baltic sea for example
Dylan Cook
>but just what are the Swedes bringing look at a map, i am sure you can figure it out
Never understood Turkey's beef with Finland. Sweden I get why but why Finland T.swede
Wyatt Moore
No NATO bases doesn’t mean no NATO troops. You can still place NATO units in bases managed by Sweden and you can still house NATO aircraft on Swedish airfields.
Joseph Diaz
>NATO drops the "Atlantic" description >The whole world turns yellow other than Russia and its stans, the whole Middle East other than Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Iraq, most of Africa, and all of Latin America/South America other than Mexico and Brazil It would be so beautiful
Juan Richardson
Why the semantics, NATO assets under their control? they are either in or out. and no nukes? wtf? They are plainly very halfhearted about joining so why do so? If they are happier not to join fine. But why should NATO be dictated to?
Joshua Bell
Brazil should join NATO. The only time things have been good in Brazil in its history was on the rare occasion it managed to be on the winning team by sheer luck. Also Brazil has a small sliver of Atlantic coast north of the equator. Should apply now.
Landon Watson
Faggot
Bentley Miller
>nd no nukes? wtf? how many NATO countries do you think have nukes stationed on their soil?
Jayden Cox
>world-class tech >great strategic positions >well-trained albeit not very many troops gee I wonder what they are bringing. Also, no nukes are the deal for Norway and Denmark as well. No one has said anything about no bases.
People on the internet love to shit on us for our many retarded policies, but they tend to not know that the rest of the nordics(including """based""" finns) are extremely similar to us. Nations on the other hand can't let memes dictate their foreign policies.
Christopher Gonzalez
What's it like in a sauna? I always wanted to go in one.
Jonathan Wood
It's not the fact that NATO members have nukes stationed on them or not. but Sweden's 'condition' that they are NOT to be on their soil, that is a main factor of concern.
Jayden Bennett
Yeah, the only reason we (Finland) have less immigrants is just because we're a bit less wealthy. Doesn't mean we're any less "cucked" as some would say. Also most people here are basically voluntary slaves to the government, so there is that too.
Joshua Sanders
That's it boys, the numbers have decided. No more countries get in.
Jacob Diaz
Wet, hot and relaxing. That picture is peak comfy, I think all problems could just be resolved if we all got in a real woodpowered sauna and talked things through.
Daniel Mitchell
Check again about bases. Finland is all NATO needs as an addition to the present situation in the area. NATO can do without the half hardheartedness of another member. Never understood the leaning over backwards to cater for Norway or Denmark's terms. Just because some get an exemption does not mean it is mandatory to allow this stupidity again. Don't join NATO but by all means have (as exists) defense agreements with others
Jace Allen
Afghanistan
Chase Brown
>being this salty I smell a vatnik
Ryder Cooper
Dagestan
Joshua Murphy
It would be dumb as hell to allow nukes and honestly I doubt that the nuclear powers wants to place nukes in sweden/Finland for geopolitical reasons
Julian Rivera
> >>being this salty >I smell a vatnik And I smell someone with low cognitive ability. Unable to discus their position adequately
Bentley Barnes
Isn't one of the Stans trying to get away from Russia at the moment
You cannot have a position that you hide behind and use an organisation that uses nukes as the ultimate deterrent. But because you dislike the idea of nukes you wont have it in your territory, That is hypocritical and disingenuous. If a situation arose that need nukes to be stationed around the Baltics why should NATO's options be limited by one of its members?
>The baltic countries are pretty much orgasming right now. Toomas Hendrik Ilves is just bitching about Finland.
Anthony Fisher
who?
Lucas Wright
I wish someone in the Finnish government would say that. Maybe with Sweden setting the precedent that will happen. I want in NATO to spite Russia, not host foreign bases and nukes.
Government doesn't want to make any unnecessary demands. There's is no need for bases and the nukes being here is debatable. Where should we even store them?
they all have dead eyes, really don't get the attraction
Connor Morgan
NATObros... We got too cocky
Kayden Campbell
Location, Air Force and subs. Other than that glowies are probably happy for direct access to Swedish sigint and sensor network. Then again, FRA is probably already passing on most so it seeing how NSA sponsored HMS Orion, but now I bet they’ll have their own cabin in her replacement.
Jackson Howard
Why are you always mean to us?
Wyatt Brown
>mommy Sanna is the same age as me, so I can’t regard her that way.
Bentley Reyes
I hate Turkey so fucking much
Elijah Lee
Ukraine. Period
David White
The tank was abandooned after the lead rust bucket in their unit caught a javelin and the flag is now being used as a doormat outside of a nearby Azov barracks.
Jeremiah Jackson
>conditions >demands There is a precedence. Norway joined, but did not host nukes or bases. Joining NATO doesn’t mean you have to host either.
Brayden Butler
I mean, dafuq?!
Hunter Myers
It´s the DLC expansion
Adrian Watson
>based Finland Based on doing whatever Sweden, America, the EU, and, until recently, Russia wants it to do.
Dylan Bailey
I wish so
Brody Brown
Because it’s not the fucking Warsaw Pact and the countries in NATO are actually sovereign countries.
Does Brazil have a NATO compatible military? Part of applying to join is restructuring and reorganizing to fit the NATO mold I think, plus buying whatever weapons NATO wants you to use.
Cooper Hill
Is this the third time he's flip-flopped on the issue? Hope it's just the sanctions for the F-16's or whatever it was he was barred from.
Jacob Martin
Well our government won't lift any sanctions, that's for sure.
Lucas Miller
>Both countries imposed arms exports ban against Turkey since 2019 as part of a EU decision over Ankara’s Syria incursion None of them have anything to do with F16s, so Erdogan probably just wants to be able to buy premium Swedish gear
Jaxson White
Bad time to be chimping out, Erdogan. We can just replace you with Ukraine in a few years.
would be a shame if someone veto'd their application
Parker Jackson
Niger
Camden Moore
>Sweden has a long history of neutrality In particular, a long history of neutrally fucking up Poland's and Germany's shit. Something about Adolfs, I swear...
Anyone know if I can find it at good old systemet?
Gabriel Collins
Erdogan: You can't join NATO unless you agree to sell us weapons! Swedish government: Oh noes! I guess we'll have no choice but to start selling you guys guns again. *rubs hands*
David Butler
Based roaches keeping the freeloaders out. Binland and Swedistan can fuck off.
Joshua Garcia
>freeloaders >Finland Nigger, please.
Michael Mitchell
It's a tiny country with a fucking conscript army. Nigger yourself.
Nathan Lewis
Worth saying Turkey has said >“First of all, we would not say ‘yes’ to those who impose sanctions on Turkey to join NATO, a security organization, during this process,” Erdogan said. It doesn't matter if Turkey says yes or not, it matters if they are ready to pull the veto.
Gavin Murphy
It will spend the required amount on defense, so it’s not freeloading.
Cooper Turner
Australia
Oliver Lewis
probably a fair few swedish politicians who would be happy for any excuse to drop restrictions on weapons sales though >oh you can't buy F-35? how about some Gripen?
Joshua King
Then neither is Swedistan by your definition.
Angel Johnson
Join the club. But there is a silver lining. Erdogan could finally have taken that one step too far. He was already running short on friends. Now 95% of NATO will have a grudge. Let's see what the entire Europe's tax departments can find in Turkey's international transactions, just for a starter.
Dylan Kelly
oh my gosh
Luis Campbell
Correct, it isn’t.
Gavin Jones
Ask me how I know you're a Finngol. Dishonest piece of shit.
Brayden Reyes
Look, I don’t see how country that spend the requisite amount on defense are freeloading. I’m American, if it matters.
Bentley Rodriguez
The CSA
Isaac Russell
Australia
Cameron Roberts
Obama
Luis Nguyen
Keep coping. Both countries will join NATO by the end of the year. Why? Because America wills it. What America wants, America gets.
> Because America wills it. What America wants, America gets. Like Vietnam? Or Afghanistan? Or Syria? Or Afghanistan AGAIN?
You are fucking delussional. Sanctions are making worse for europe, khohols are losing, Erdogant won't let Fins and Sweds in NATO. Accept it - world is bipolar now and you HAVE TO respect Russia Because Turkey could leave fucking nato and BRICS will have a new letter - T
Jacob Jenkins
This guy has got it. And if we are lucky, the debate may start on excluding Turkey. NATO would be a far better place without them. Just ask Greece.
Landon Rodriguez
>Because Turkey could leave fucking nato It could. But the issue for Russia remains. It's stuck in the Med.
Henry Cox
>Vietnam Economic partner and thorn in our enemy's side. >Afghanistan Soviets lost so hard they collapsed. >Syria Nightmarish unstable hellhole, useless to Russia. >Afghanistan Killed OBL. Killed most of his friendly Taliban leadership. Killed most AQ leadership. Not our fault ragheads can't be civilized, you can't teach a monkey to be a human.
Jayden Phillips
Cant kick em out retard
William Nelson
>excluding Turkey You cannot be kicked out of NATO. You have to leave.
lmao good point comrade Alan from Texas oblast, we americans don't need any more allies
Camden Brooks
Turkey sitting on the Bosporus trumps any value the nords might bring.
Nathaniel Powell
Control of Gotland literally makes defending Poland and the Baltics so much easier. It also means control of the entire Baltic Sea. Turkey leaving the Bosphorus straits open for Russia doesn't change much because they can't reach the Atlantic due to Gibraltar and Spain.
Dominic Smith
Fuck off. Regardless of colors, Russia will not stop being fucked up. It will act all innocent ("oh, it was Putin who made me bad") and look like this cute kitty, up until the moment when it rears its ugly face and tries to fuck things up again.
That isn't the definition. The definition is 'territorial dispute' which there is. Theoretically if UK applied to join now they wouldn't get in due to Ireland and Brexit.
Blake Ramirez
>beslutet ar fattat
Nathaniel Baker
>Theoretically if UK applied to join now they wouldn't get in due to Ireland and Brexit Ireland dropped its legal fiction of a claim to NI as part of the Good Friday Agreement. Brexit hasn't changed that.
Finland and Sweden can get claimed by Russia,will that mean the won't be able to enter ?Again there is no war or skirmishes between the invading Turks and the Cypriots.
Bentley Reed
Based erdogod Fuck scandisissies
Elijah Barnes
Sorry sweaty but Black Sea
Joshua Cooper
NATOreject bros how do we cope
Ethan Brooks
Yet reunification is going to go ahead and that'll cause Ulster to get annoyed, which will start the whole issue again.
Hunter Moore
Presumably by selling weapons to the Turks. Distasteful but it'll do
It's really the perfect alibi to drop export restrictions on weapons to Turkey. I would certainly not be surprised to see the current swedish government give in on this. I bet they would even frame it as making a "sacrifice" to help the Finns.
The internal political cost would certainly be negligible.
Nathan Garcia
At least the Saab sales team can put food on the table again
Connor Torres
Don't care, if it comes to nuclear war, I just pray Russia spares 3 ICBMs for out southern neighbor for MIRV nuclear orbital bombardment or maybe Fractional orbital bombardment. I can die in peace knowing the cartels have been wiped out.
Grayson Williams
I guess nobody on /k/ realizes it's possible to both not support Russia and also not support globalist organizations that want to destroy you? Probably not, you're just reddit 2.0 now anyway.
Eli Martin
We're increasing the domestic military budget already you dumb nigger There's no NATO money involved
Ethan Perez
Kazakhstan get.
Josiah Butler
He's well within his rights to do so. Our eternal booomers grew fat on the Soviet teat so they don't want any hint of war to threaten their property
Aaron Jenkins
Best Korea
Luke Bailey
/k/ > reddit > Any Forums Now seethe.
Nicholas Cruz
Both signed a mutual defense pact with the bongs and doubt the Russians are interested in testing if bongs will uphold their promises.
Lucas Jenkins
ill fuck you up on the spot if i see you
Parker Bell
And vice-versa
Grayson Robinson
no
Xavier Smith
There was something about turning in "PKK" and "Gulenists" as well, which might not go over all that well depending on how they do. Sweden has an election soon and I could see Alliansen (basically the conservative block, with tacit support of the "Far Right" SD which are basically one of the few non-retard far right parties in Europe) winning depending on how things turn out, and I don't think they're as keen on supporting the mainly socialdemocrat-traditional "humanitarian superpower" idea.
Jaxon Ortiz
yes
Ryder Wilson
Jag ollar på dig
William Perez
>you HAVE TO respect Russia
LOL, seeing you guys get absolutely sodomized by the (former) poorest country in Europe and cope and seethe about it doesn't exactly make me respect Russia, Vlad
Charles White
Russia never won a war without western help. That's how pathetic they are, biting the hand that feeds them.
Levi Mitchell
Mongolia
Matthew Moore
>Accept it - world is bipolar fucking cope, only reason bipolarity exists is because of china and china alone. The USA and the west will now attempt to move industry from china to souther asia like vietnam, mexico, indonesia and india.
Aaron Carter
We don’t want it, and why the fuck did this thread bug out and give me question marks flags only
Josiah Hughes
thread moved from /k/ thanks for nothing mods, now it's just going to turn into shit