Mass shooters & SSRIs

I may be making an invalid correllation here but why does it seem to be that most mass shooters are either currently, or have recently been, taking SSRIs? Are there any recent mass shooters that have NOT been hopped up on SSRIs? Are SSRIs a failed psychiatric treatment for nutjobs or are they working exactly as the glowniggers want them to work? Are SSRIs the Mk-Ultra Holy Grail? Has anyone ever benefitted from SSRIs and if so, can you describe how it feels when you're hopped up on them? Do they make you feel like you want to shoot a lot of people, or simply not care if you were to shoot a lot of people? Should SSRIs be banned for being a failure, or are they genuinely helpful for most people?

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I don't know what to tell you, user. I'm a psych nurse, and I can't help you with your mental illness.

I'm on SSRI's. See you in jail.

yes yes yes
afaik all shooters have been on some "mood altering" substance
it actually make people lose any inhibition due to overflow of Serotonin and Dopamine

the amount of people on SSRIs that live normal lives compared to the amount of people who actually go out and do something of that nature is a very different number, I would say you’re over exaggerating but it’s just not scalable or completely observable is it

See, that's the thing. I'm 1y med, thinking about going into psychiatry but if the meds don't work, I should change my major to something more helpful to society, like engineering. I'll have to dig around and see if anyone has done any studies on the correllation of SSRIs to violence. I'd hate to waste 7 more years to be in a profession that is barely above snake-oil salesman.

Most SSRI are barely a few % more effective than placebo. We have pretty much no understanding of how depression actually works and how to cure it.
They did experiments on mice where they removed their brain serotonin and they showed no signs of depression, meaning the whole "low serotonin leads to depression" is most likely bullshit.
Still, they make fucking billions on antidepressants so they'll continue shilling it, even if it does a lot more harm than good.


Here's the mice study for anyone interested.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4777283/

I have personal experience with an SSRI called paroxetine (brand names Paxil / Seroxat). My friend was diagnosed with depression some years back and was prescribed this medication. He got lucky and quickly recovered, and ended up with spare medication ; I was curious to see what antidepressants felt like when you're not depressed so he gave some to me and I experimented with it for a week.
The serotoninergic edge was apparent from the beginning. I felt a mild warmth two hours after taking the first dose, along with a marked mood lift that could easily be distinguished from placebo. Things appeared to affect me less, I was less stressed by external sensory inputs ; in a way I did care "less" about what was happening around me. This effect strengthened throughout the week. Things seemed more distant, I felt pretty content and apathetic. There was a sort of artificial, chemical distance between my psyche and the perceived objects around me. I was not akin to a NMDA-mediated dissociation at all (I'm thinking ketamine / DXM), more like this all-encompassing, low-grade and pervasive inner warmth that made me care less. Not an opioid-like warmth either, purely an inner feeling of serenity / detachment but without euphoria and physical side-effects. The feeling was overall quite robotic. Also less dopamine somehow, coffee didn't make me feel anything, I had no motivation to exercise, no more sex drive, less engagement in social interaction, this sort of thing.
This is purely anecdotal but I can definitely see how someone taking this sort of medication for months could suffer from personality change and feel less empathetic towards human life. Saying it makes you become a serial killer is a giant stretch but it does seem to transform you in a weird automat with dampened emotions so that's something to think about.

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All allopathic medicine should be banned for being a failure, but within this paradigm it is isn't a failure because the intent is not to heal, rather to mitigate symptoms (stop healing). This leads to worsening the unresolved initial illness, plus new illnesses from being poisoned. Being in this perpetual sickness cycle causes physical, mental, and spiritual problems. That's why people don't seem human, because they're not functioning correctly.
Imagine believing the human body is inherently bad, and only man in white coat can fix you with drugs. I know it's what people are conditioned to believe from birth, but there comes a point in your adult life where you have to snap out of it, or succumb to it.

I will never be a pharmacist.

Interesting first-hand observation. It doesn't sound like it would be good for anyone but it apparently helped your friend so maybe it's not always snake-oil. What I've been learning is individual metabolism yields variable results with any medicine. It seems a fairly imprecise field of study.

They don't help most people, but they help a lot of people. The only way to find out is to try it, because they have side effects that you won't see until you try them.

Psychiatry is all horse shit, get an engineering degree.

Yes variable metabolism is one of the many issues when it comes to psychiatric medicines. On the images I posted you can see that at least 6 different enzymes catalyze reactions on paroxetine. CYP1A2, 2D6 and 3A4 are especially subject to variations among people. COMT is a common culprit as well. Neurobiology is just not advanced enough to tackle depression on a systematic basis, and the serotonin hypothesis is most definitely flawed beyond saving

Yeah, I have to agree that a side effect of shooting a bunch of people is not helpful.

Yeah, it's kind of looking like I would be happier as an engineer than I would be mucking around with people's neurotransmitters. I'm not sure psychiatry would be my cup of tea if I'm not actually able to help anyone because the science is still too primitive.

Psychedelics should be sold at liquor stores

Very valid point here.

I'm acoustic and they try to make me take anti depressants but I want to be a weird fuck with random facts and obsession for nerdy things.

They dumb you down, but that is their intended effect, also it's a medicine so one person's response could be completely different to another.

It would be interesting to look into, but I doubt there is any correlation given the about of people taking SSRIs

Mezcal? It didn't feel any different to me than vodka or whiskey. I think I got conned by the marketing department.

I used "entry level" ssri; lexapro.
It didn't change anything like the euphoria of alcohol or weed, but it did make dealing with fussy bullshit that mush easier to just forget it and go about my day.
The down side. Coming off ssri. Nothing for the first week. Second week was angry, a LOT. Third week was anger, but small bouts of rage then normalcy.
Took about a full month to be physically free of ssri.
These days. I make my own tinctures and smoke a bowl. If its just a craptacular week I'll dip into 5HTP. Its natural supplement and what was given to people before the advent of ssri's. The plus side is I don't have to take them daily (like ssri's) and even if I take them for a month solid; stepping off them just means a return to dealing with irritability or fuck it moods. Smoke a bowl and get back to making some money so I can get back to doing what I want in life.

>Within 2 hours

Nice LARP, you have no idea how these medicines work.