So I’m curious and also retarded, why do people always cope in USA whenever shootings happen...

So I’m curious and also retarded, why do people always cope in USA whenever shootings happen? Are things really the absolute worst in USA in regards to personal protection? Whenever I hear people wanting to get away from gun violence, people always counter saying that euros have to deal with immigrants breaking in and rape/killing them instead.

What’s the alternative then? If you have the means, do amerilards just have to deal with niggers and guns? Are guns actually preferable instead? Is anywhere safer, or is it worse? Curious for a genuine solid answer

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we don't have a gun problem
we have a media problem
we have a gang-banging minority problem
we have a mental health / suicide problem

Could you elaborate a bit? Are you saying media and minorities and etc are the cause for guns being misused? It’s a common sentiment I hear, but what about the fact that if this newfag never had access to a gun, shit would’ve never happened to begin with? His shit would’ve been kicked in if he even tried anything, so unless you say his suicide would’ve happened just without collateral damage, I don’t understand your point.

I’m not passionate about this opinion either, it’s the easiest counter I can think of and I’d love to be proven wrong, just trying to get a decent idea of the concept

Here's the deal: you hear about the terrible shootings on the media where 10 innocents are killed, maybe once a month.

You don't hear about the 1000+ justified uses guns for self defense every day.

Do people still die in these self defense uses? Why did these things happen to begin with? I’m confused about the necessity for violence to begin with. Sure, you can say that media overblow mass shootings, that’s fine, but it’s not any better to hear that guns are a necessity and you have to go out of your way to shoot people just to have an average standard of living. Are things really just that unsafe? What about other countries?

You know we’ve had mass bombers and vehicle rams before right? The jogger who killed like 6 people and injured 60+ has been talked about all day in comparison with the fag from yesterday

Canada has as freely available firearms as the United States of America and yet we don't have these shootings. really makes you think huh?

All of that can be attributed to manipulative asshole government

>Ruling class of your country has banned firearms by name based on appearance
Don’t even try and compare your firearm laws to ours

i had to explain to my bong friend why no one shot him back cause everything thinks americans are strapped, we arent many of us own the guns but many states have tons of laws regulating them and if you get caught the police will crucify you, example next to a school zone,in the car with you my state has gofy laws that the magazine/gun have to be in seperate compartments some places you even have to get out of the car to put them together unless of course you have a conceal carry license which most people dont go through the trouble and after this abortion supreme court ruling i hope they revist gun rights where its clearly stated shall not infringe and states shouldnt have the right to micro-manage with these unconstitutional laws

This country has always been violent. It literally started as a violent civil war between colonists and loyalists/british crown, then there was another war a couple decades later, then an extremely violent civil war over state's right and to end slavery.
NOW, we have every violent race and ethnic group on earth moving here in droves. The entire new world to the south of us is the most violent on earth and they're all coming here now. It's only going to get worse, guns or no guns.
The New World is chaos and violence. The Old World is faggots and culture.

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So we have a nigger problem, thanks.

constitutional carry states make it really simple

That’s fair, but that doesn’t really answer much. Sure it’s not all gun violence, but there’s just a lot of violence in general. Is it more the fact that people don’t talk about any other violence in general that makes shit seem better than it is? Like “oh if only we didn’t have guns no violence would ever happen”?

Is everywhere just as violent? Is this just reality? Or is it still mostly just an American thing?

Dude literally chose the site he went to because he knew there would be easy kills. The real alternative is getting a gun and having it on you at all times because the 86 year old missionary christian anti-gun advocate security cop died and failed to protect everybody he was next to.

The real solution? Get into politics and government yourself. Become a judge or a politician. Change things from the inside out because what the jews on here don't want you to know is that Hitler didn't shoot places up or broke the law. He rose through the ranks proper following the law the entire way up and this was after he served in the military and saw action.

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Don't post under some memeflag coward.

America is a huge country and each state is like it's own country. Some states like Texas a lot of civilians have guns and know how to use them. Less shit like this happens there. If you are able to legally carry your pistol then you really shouldn't be scared. You have everything you need to stay safe right with you. No need to call for help just point and click. Many many many people are saved by their guns in America everyday. Often a robber or attacker will just give up and run away the second they see your gun. Most criminals want easy prey. they don't want to risk death to steal $50 from you. Even if they too have a gun well now they are still in a gun fight for their own lives, all over that $50.

In any country, in any situation, in any time, you would ALWAYS rather have your gun and never need it as opposed to one day need it and not have it. Loads of cops carry sidearms for decades and never have to shoot someone. It's about freedom and self determination. Don't outsource your protection to some government employee who gets paid the same no matter if you live or die. That's literally the stupidest thing a human can do. No one will ever fight harder to save your life then you will! Don't you want all the tools God and science can give you to survive? Why would you willingly handicap yourself when you know for a fact the criminals will not. You know for a fact criminals in every country can and do get guns, but you volunteer to bring empty hands to a gun fight? WHY???

You idiots think Americans are crazy but alas we are the only sane ones it would seem. A world populated by cucks just waiting for orders or to get shot....which ever comes first. Pathetic and disgusting honestly.

>Do people still die in these self defense uses?
Yes, usually the attacker. It's not reported on because it paints gun violence and self defense in a good light, two things authoritarian governments HATE because they want to be the sole authority to determine who has the right to enact violence or not.

>I’m confused about the necessity for violence to begin with.
Because you're a soft skinned faggot kept safe by the standards and violence of stronger men than you, standards that are rapidly disappearing with the indtallation of foreign hordes from unsafe countries run purely on violence, or already no longer exist in democrat/leftist areas because people who are scared are easier to control. A man who is not afraid of the world around him and is physically/psychologically prepared to defend his ground can't easily be cowed or corralled, especially if he's armed enough to make a difference.
>Sure, you can say that media overblow mass shootings, that’s fine
It damn well better be fine, because it's the fucking truth.
>but it’s not any better to hear that guns are a necessity and you have to go out of your way to shoot people just to have an average standard of living
Literally nobody is making that argument, don't be a disengenuous cunt.
> Are things really just that unsafe? What about other countries?
Yes, the more diversity you introduce the worse it's going to get. Yes, other countries are even worse. you just don't hear about it as often because unlike the US other countries don't have their own blackbook CIA style groups selling drugs and guns to (((urban youths))) to make money for black book projects like that Chicago blacksite that got found by anons 8 years ago. You also dont hear as much about the gangland shit going on in brazilian favellas because mass violence happening an entire continent away doesn't create fear like a glownigger shooting in your own country.

Our firearms aren't nearly as free as Americans unless you're a card carrying indigenous citizen, as for the lack of gun violence, we don't have entire cities of niggers engulfing the whole city in ganglang wars to skew our shooting/mass shooting numbers.

i cant keep up with hiding these shooter threads. a deranged mongoloid killed random people "cuz reasons". retards who murder strangers cant reason, so the "reasons" are nullified. its just a demented retarded doing what demented retards too.

No one talks about other kinds of violence because it’s just not reported on, that’s the entire reason everyone has this image in their head of America constantly having bullets fly everywhere. A huge majority of gun deaths are suicides, and of the remaining fraction a majority is gang/drug related. Gun deaths from mass shootings like yesterday’s make up an almost insignificant portion of gun deaths, let alone overall homicides in the US

So ultimately it’s just everywhere being violent and the definitive answer is just being capable of fighting back to begin with?
>Don’t be a disingenuous cunt
Not trying to be, I’m just trying to get things straightened up in my retard brain. It’s like what says, at the end of the day it was just some deranged retard doing retarded things in this mass shooting example. So instead just the general reasoning for having and using guns to begin with is the answer I’m moreso looking for.
I understand the argument of having guns is having the guts to use them and govern your own defense, and I suppose if everyone has equal opportunity and not be “easy targets” then nobody can get away with shit that often. I suppose I’m still adamant on the idea that nothing can be safe unless everyone knows they can end a life in a second, so I don’t know how to really think about it other than I guess this is just the reality of the situation? Either way, thanks for humoring my ignorance anons, it’s appreciated

The majority of gun deaths are skewed by niggers shooting niggers with pistols in cities. It doesn’t matter the leadership.

Exactly, the kind of person who does something like this is already fucked up in the head, potentially beyond saving. If he didn’t do it because of white supremacy he would’ve just gone down the other rabbit hole and would have done it because of Roe V Wade or some other bullshit

Really just look at places like Texas and other high gun ownership states with large gun owning populations. You really don’t see shootings like this happen (nog on nog violence and suicides still happen, hence the gun deaths) because of how common it is for at least a handful of people with guns to be in a public area at any given moment. Even the few that do usually happen in blue area cities where it is less common. The two off the top of my head I remember in Texas both happened at churches. I think one was before carrying in churches was allowed by law, but the shooter was shot from across the street by a guy with an AR from his house window and the shooter ended up having to pull over his car from the gunshot. Other was after church carry was allowed and a based boomer domed the shooter before he could kill anyone else other than the first victim

americans are nutcases, if you take away their guns they'll just make bombs to kill people instead