Boomers really be saying “I miss when things were civil in this country” and post a clip of Buckley when he’s...

Not an argument

taliban were terrorists. by taking out a lot of taliban, and removing a safe space for al quada global terrorism was seriously impeded. terrorism is obviously a threat to the average american.
you don't argue with terrorists. you destroy them.

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It's like reading twitter.

Fuck off fag, the Taliban are based. You are just buttmad because you lost, cope and seethe harder.

>he’s literally a documented globohomo glow nigger asset that subverted the right from the inside to distance it from “nationalism” and “America-first” leanings, fr fr no cap perchance

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couldn't be more underage if you tried.

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Grew up during the Terror War faggot. You've lost the Middle East, deal with it neocon scumbag.
youtube.com/watch?v=T-SRZu5MLbE&t=3s

I don't see the difference between those kinds and you in regard to intervention. You both support/oppose it on principle and not on interest. Like waving red before a bull

Go fight in Ukraine then old-man, but this time without air superiority.

It's true that American isolationism just gives China more room to expand

>the Taliban are based
OK so moving past the isolationism thing, what exactly do you want America to look like? Is there actually some part of American society you think should be preserved, and if not why cling to an American identity? The Taliban have very little in common with American culture at any point in its history going back to the founding.

No I think I will keep my air superiority thank you fuck you bye

America, going all the way back to its founding, was a huge mistake.

The bucklyites arent conservative because they conserve nothing. They have let the left run rampant for 60 some years as they let culture and society decay.; This is why you get trump. Why you get populism.
The people want fighters, not fucking fag nerds like buckly

Why

The Taliban regained control of Afghanistan in matter of weeks after $2 trillion spent and 2,400 Americans killed in 20 years of nation-building - what does that say about the venture?

liberalism

What is liberalism and why is it bad

that is regrettable, but it's a different taliban today, and the international security situation has changed.

>What is liberalism
"Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed and equality before the law. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, private property and a market economy."
Essentially it's the ideology under which society is currently run.
>and why is it bad
Many reasons. For one example, "liberal democracy" combined with "freedom of the press" inevitably creates a plutocracy in which most of the power but none of the responsibility is concentrated in an entirely unaccountable group of oligarchs.
Even in the worst dictatorship, at least the man in charge knows it's his neck on the line if he fucks things up too much. But the people who own newspapers and donate to politicians, people hardly know their faces nevermind holding them to any standard of conduct.

>plutocracy in which most of the power but none of the responsibility is concentrated in an entirely unaccountable group of oligarchs.
So you're concerned about unaccountable accumulation of power and your solution is...giving a different group of people explicit unaccountable power?
>Even in the worst dictatorship, at least the man in charge knows it's his neck on the line if he fucks things up too much.
In a society with no freedom of the press, presumably media is controlled by the government. Why can't the government just do the same thing as the plutocrats and create an external enemy? How do the people hold the government accountable in a way they can't under a liberal democracy?

Putin is the richest man on earth
Corruption is endemic in russia
There is nobody to hold putin accountable
Russia is a shithole

Conservatism is a rearguard action by definition. Conservatives lose by definition. Conservatives have been losing since 1789.

>So you're concerned about unaccountable accumulation of power and your solution is...giving a different group of people explicit unaccountable power?
I'm not concerned about accumulation of power, I'm concerned about it being accumulated in the wrong hands.
>In a society with no freedom of the press, presumably media is controlled by the government. Why can't the government just do the same thing as the plutocrats and create an external enemy?
I expect they will. Arguably any society needs an external force to compete against.
That's another problem with liberalism, especially the kind modern America practices. Its implicit goal is to have the entire world governed by liberal democracies and then keep that as the status quo forever.
If that could be achieved it would doom humanity to eternal stagnation.
Russia was a shithole under the Tsar, Russia was a shithole under the communists, Russia was a shithole under democracy, and Russia is a shithole now, and Russia will likely be a shithole under whatever system they adopt next.
Though Putin certainly did better than the liberal democracy that came before him, that's why he remains popular there despite everything.

russia has never been a liberal democracy. everybody strives to remove any enemies, opponents. what a shart brained take.

right now abortion is about to become illegal

#winning

>...Buckley forged a new breed of conservatism that disavowed white supremacists, Randians, and Birchers and made its peace with the New Deal. He particularly disliked Ayn Rand, calling her beliefs "utterly amoral." Rand returned the favor by asking sarcastically how a man as erudite as Buckley could believe in a Supreme Being (herself being a strident atheist).

>Buckley also had a strong disliking of conservative columnist, Reagan staffer, and 1992 presidential candidate Pat Buchanan, whom he suspected of being a closet anti-Semite.

And the conservative movement has been plagued by the mediocre scions of the neo-cons he welcomed into the movement since

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>"It's either Ben Shapiro-tier impotent whining about
He's pretty off about Ukraine and the formula shortage.

America has barely done anything to keep China from economically expanding.

There is nothing liberal about the current society. All of it goes back to civil rights tops. We're closer to premodern privileges/liberties than to Enlightenment Liberty.

Nigger I'm looking but I don't seem to be seeing any society based on the principles of ancient republicanism. But I see a lot more that are in line with what Mounier/Destutt de Tracy advocated with muh balance and all that. We could go on to the second stage and look at 48. There again we don't Blanqui victorious but Thiers.

>The people want fighters, not fucking fag nerds like buckly
Didn't Buckley threaten to punch Gore Vidal in the face for being a "queer"

Just admit conservatives were always like this.

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>I'm not concerned about accumulation of power, I'm concerned about it being accumulated in the wrong hands.
Lmao and hoelw do you even avoid that?
Also it really depends on your definition of "wrong hand", for many wrong hands are a certain group of people or just individuals defined "evil" because they not providing everyone with a job, for example.

>He particularly disliked Ayn Rand, calling her beliefs "utterly amoral."
I'm noticing that the argument the American right wing went awry with Buckley which led to Ben Shapiro et al. are caught in a contradiction since Rand's influence on Shapiro, Prager U etc. is obvious with the libertarian market worship and "Facts Don't Care About Your Feelings" stuff (Objectivism).

>America has barely done anything to keep China from economically expanding.
There's nothing America can do about it other than try to frustrate it.

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USA propped up China, you fucking idiot. China had Africa-tier GDP before the West moved their factories there.

Had more to do with getting called a nazi. Gore was also self admittedly gay in both senses of the word, really had a woman's ability to get under everyone's skin and enjoyed it. Triumph of 2nd sense gayness to get a guy like Buckley to buckle like that on tv. It's kind of a shame you don't see aristocratic bitchy 2nd gay authors and writers trading barbs much any more, mostly thanks to 3rd wave Ezra Klein gayness.

Then build more factories dummy

It's funny how the shittiest generation that ruined everything is the one that complains the most.

Bro you're replying to LBJfag, I hope you realize that.

As long as they keep the attacks on Jew York sure

>muh LBJfag
Goddamn, I really have buck-broken this board
I always announce myself retard. You want a screencap to prove it?

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Its quite black-pilling as an American knowing we've never had a truly based political movement outside the anti-masonic party and the greenback party.

American politics has been controlled for a long time.

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Any Rand has no right to exist outside of a 15-year-old's bookshelf

You have no authority over me and never will. Faggot.