Is Russia actually winning or not?
Is Russia actually winning or not?
Seethe
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They haven't moved farward in weeks, lost control of the big gas field day held at the very start and time only works on the Ukie side, since they learn the better NATO equipment while russian tech doesn't progress
NOBODY KNOWS
Anyone who says here that he knows is a shill.
Depends on what was planned - winning or not
I don't know what side you support, but whichever it is, is probably the losing one
Yeah. Russia has the manpower. It's slow work but Ukraine military is basically gone at this point. It's completely reliant on volunteers and billions in aid. Russia meanwhile still has 90% of its armed forces back in Russia.
The problem is Russia doesn't want to win. It needs Ukraine to surrender. Taking over Ukraine just adds to its list of problems. It needs the Ukrainian government to accept to stay neutral and not bomb Russians living in Ukraine but stay functioning otherwise it ends up with a a big money sink of white terrorists at their door and drama for the next two decades as they try and fail to get Ukrainians on team Russia. They need Ukraine to just surrender so Ukraine can maintain its identity as Ukraine.
Worst case,theyll completely cut it off from water and end it there but they cannot take Ukraine or they'll lose in the long term, like America with Afghanistan is the Afghanis were openly being celebrated by media and receiving billions in aid every month.
no
This, it’s not a war, it’s a special operation
Russia is winning in Ukraine but at great cost, making it a failure in the grand scheme of things.
based roach telling it like it is
>almost all troops in the front lines are DPR
>great costs
Russia invaded quarter of Ukraine without really using its military beyond the airforce
I agree. The Nazi angle is just good marketting since it splits opposition. Nazi is the ultimate buzzword and if Putin didn't control the word first it would have made it too easy for other nations to claim it against them.
The terms of surrender are incredibly agreeable for any nation. Stay neutral(which is literally the only reason Ukraine was created before the us lead coup) and stop bombing Russians living in its borders.
It's amazing how powerful the media is today to make this war into what it is.
Russia lost the propaganda war so badly that the western MSM have been repeatedly using destroyed Ukrainian tanks and jets as Russian.
Considering all the territory they control now is territory they controlled on week 1 of the invasion, I would say no. The famous, long awaited Izyum "cauldron" has been given up on and they risk getting encircled east of Kharkiv.
ISW suggests that Ukraine doesn't see a merit to a peace deal since they expect to push them out of Kharkov Oblast completely.
Yesterday Zelensky told an italian news agency there exists the risk of "cross-border conflict", meaning attacks along the Belgorod border.
DPR/LPR are looking like they will claim all of their oblasts at least.
Not sure if it was the worth the cost for them + maybe Kherson and the Azov coast.
this is a shill post
Of course
How long do you think it takes to neutralise a nations military?
The entire west took 5 months to destroy iraqs, and they didn’t even attempt to take Kiev
According to uncle Vladimir, Ukraine is not Russian main objective. Their main objective is pushing NATO to pre 1999 borders. With Sweden and Finland joining NATO soon that can't be considered winning.
Yeah, propoganda is where the west and Jews shine. You are literally saturated with articles that lead your train of thought to a particular direction but in reality it's not that bad a war. We still have Ukrainian shit posters here FFS. The media is the main dirivi g force behind the war and the treason Jewrat zelensky and his billion dollar fortune in bribes wasn't gone the first day.
Putin ain't much better but it takes trans of people and a unified narrative to make zelensky seem like a saint as the media and west perceives him.
Yes, I remember Russia winning since day 1:
>"Victory parade in Kiev in 3 days!"
>"All Ukranian armies and airforce destroyed in day 1!"
>"Fastes invasion in history!"
>"60 km long death convoy will destroy Kiev!"
>"Kiev is almost completely surrounded! Victory is close!"
>"We never wanted to take Kiev anyway"
>"It was a feint"
>"Even the Nazis needed 40 days to conquer Poland so it's still fast"
>"Soon the poket will close and all Ukranian military forces will be destroyed!"
>"F E I N T"
>"UNSINKABLE!"
>"No more assaults in Mariupol because the smart thing to do is to starve them out!"
>"New assaults in Mariupol because the smart thing to do is to fight them!"
Russia can't stop "winning"
Sure. Every disagreeing opinion is a shill. I'm a bot. Beep Boop.
>Retards know theyre media is owned by a handful of people in America who control public conciousness but refuse to accept it when it swings in their train of thought.
If the goal is to fully rape Ukraine economy then yes, half the country is empty and Kiev is solely dependent on gibs that can't be sustained as US economy is sinking too fast to keep up with $40b payouts every few months.
Fooled by Putin's 4D chess yet again, I see.
Reality is this is all a distraction for Russia to annex South Ossetia without much noise.
Not just Ukraine's economy that's going to get decimated. The EU and many big countries like Egypt and Turkey are going to get assraped by the coming economic collapse that will make 2008+covid combined look like it was nothing.
I can't really tell. Russia is committing shockingly few resources to this whole mission, and doesn't seem to be taking it very seriously. Eg, there is no citizen's defensive mobilization in the Belgorod, even though people have called for it, along the lines of the DPR/LPR militias. According to Russian Telegram accounts, Russian forces inside of Ukraine are mostly manning artillery, with much of the fighting being done by local militia guys.
I don't think that's entirely due to 'Russian weakness.' Nothing actually prevents Russia from swinging its Belgorod forces south and slamming through the UAF like a massive sledgehammer.
But the government of Russia simply does not want to do this. It wants to use a light touch.
Most of their troops are at north