The fuck was their game plan?

The fuck was their game plan?

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Russians are lying, thieving, rapists they aren't exactly the brightest.

Yea yea, we've all seen the memes.
How about you post it in one of the other dozen or so Ukraine threads so we can have a functional board for a change?

I swear I saw this last month before Finland and Sweden announced they are applying for NATO

Well memed, propagandanons!
When will we officially announce that we are allowing Ukraine into NATO and declaring war on Russia?

Free market you communist faggot. The free market of /k/ wants to talk about the Ukraine war. Deal with it

That meme is a clear explanation and cuts through the bullshit.
I have no respect for the opinion of anyone who disagrees.

No need, NATO will just wait it out until Ukraine finishes the job and then let Ukraine in.

I mean it's not like Finland and Sweden joining NATO was some out there theory that no one was considering a month ago.

>we
no, ivan

No propaganda was needed for me Ivan
t. Pole

Where is the link to your thought provoking post?

As soon as possible hopefully

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>go into ukraine
>ukraine doesn't fight because reasons
>???
>profit
That's it.

The Bombing begins in 5 minutes.

To crash their country with no survivors.

Using Chechnya is a bad example, the Chechen wars would be akin to West Virginia breaking off and forming a baptist theocratic state.

Russia's just mad they didn't get the tiger poster

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>The fuck was their game plan?
#yolo

>the Chechen wars would be akin to West Virginia breaking off and forming a baptist theocratic state.
No it isn't because if West Virginia broke off, literally nobody would stop them.

>not posting the superior version
Understandable, but let me help you out fren.

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Man Zoobooks were lit

West Virginia already “broke off” from Virginia.

Yeah I suppose they already got away with it once

I never realized that was an option, my eyes have been opened

so this is what happens if you let a cold war fossil run the new cold war.

They don't have one. Putin is a man so paranoid that he sits at the end of a long-ass table talking with his own ministers because he doesn't want any of them to have a clean shot on him when they decide to try assassinating him. Note I said "When".
This entire exercise has not been about preserving Russia. We've been seeing an internal political power struggle and anyone who thinks otherwise has been misled by mountains of propaganda surrounding this to make it seem like there exists a moral reason or a utilitarian reason it had to happen. In reality: Putin is close to retiring, he realizes he won't, nay, can't survive retirement because most of his political enemies will have HIS powers once he retires, and this war is an attempt to defuse them by crippling the arms that would come to remove him and remove the general who would stand against him.

Conspiracy theory time: If you want a fun exercise, look at the leaders of the rival political factions in Moscow, look at which military generals have been killed in Ukraine, and then compare names and see where the two overlap. You'll be surprised

Will you be so gung-ho about NATO when Armenia attacks Turkey to get access to the Black Sea and reclaim rightful Armenian clay? Will you be willing to go over to Turkey to take up arms against other Christians in the name of Turkroaches?

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I'm not gung-ho about it now. I just hate christfags

NATO is a defensive alliance, Armenia knew the terms, if they want to fuck with NATO that's their choice.
Don't confuse politics of pragmatism with your ethnic kiddie table. Just look at Russia to know where ethnopolitics leads.

Would Armenia be that stupid? They're barely able to hold their own against Azerbaijan, let alone invade Turkey.

>Don't confuse politics of pragmatism with your ethnic kiddie table. Just look at Russia to know where ethnopolitics leads.
America's politics are almost entirely ran by ethnopolicy.

>America's politics are almost entirely ran by ethnopolicy.
Domestically, yes.
Outside the US? No.

>Will you be willing to go over to Turkey to take up arms against other Christians in the name of Turkroaches?
>what is the Crimean War
They answer is yes, btw.

I don't see why I would worry about about Turkey beating the shit out of a powerless non country in what would certainly be only about a 3 or 4 day long roflstomp.

I was getting real sick of this war but this meme is the best one I’ve seen.

Huh, I read your post and realized that Russia's foreign policy is exactly the opposite:

Domestically: "We are a mulit-ethnic federation... I too am a Tatar, a Jew... etc."
Outside of Russia: "The rights of ethnic Russians outside of Russia are being violated and we must stop this by military force."

>Armenia
If roaches can't handle them by themselves I support kicking turkey out of NATO and greece regaining constantinople

I mean I'm sure we'd send some NATO troops as a show of force but Turkey doesn't need help shitslapping Armenia. Armenia lost a war to Azerbaijan.

>I mean I'm sure we'd send some NATO troops as a show of force
I doubt it. Odds are good the war would be over before the plane could even land.

>Conspiracy theory time: If you want a fun exercise, look at the leaders of the rival political factions in Moscow, look at which military generals have been killed in Ukraine, and then compare names and see where the two overlap. You'll be surprised

make the connections for me, brodie.

I would lay down my life to protect my black muslim brothers.

But user, you're supposed to support the dissolution of NATO because you're racist. This is Any Forums, so you're obligated to put simpleminded racist populism above all other values and interests. We need to abandon our military obligations because otherwise our enemies won't be able to compete.

The only action needed will be kindly ask roaches to don't kill them ALL, albeit they deserve it for siding with Russians.

I can't read Russian but I can give a couple freebees I found
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Mityaev_(general)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Sukhovetsky

>Guy who fucked up Syria invasion
>Guy in charge of the Spetsnaz forces who would probably be used to hunt him down if he went undercover

>Launch suprise attack against key targets in Kiev, take control of the presidential palace, airports, TV stations etc. Take away the Ukranian government's power on day one by eliminating its ability communicate with its people. Sideline Zelenskyy by either chasing him into hiding or killing him. Encircle the city a day or two later with the main force (the convoy) and begin a siege, while using the seized media outlets to push pro-Russian propaganda on the Kiev residents.
>Rest of the Russian forces spends maybe two months blitzkrieging their way from the Eastern Ukranian territories they control to the Dnipro River. They would be able to do this quickly by bypassing cities as best as they can (they'll wear those down with Grozny siege tactics later if need be) and just storming through the surrounding land.
At that point they expected Ukraine to say "oh well fuck this is too much for us to handle, might as well roll over and sign some peace deal." The cope maps and meme VDV death missions from early in the conflict reveals their intentions. They just wanted to strike fast and hard enough to break Ukraine's will to resist without engaging in too much actual combat. I can see how it could have worked but Russia was banking on an absolute best case scenario type outcome. They had exactly enough resources to carry out plan A so when that went to shit they not only didn't have the resources to pull off plans B, C, D etc but those plans were never drawn up in the first place.

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Utah exists and they don't have any problems.

An ez victory that the pussified west would just forget about after a month. Such are the consequences of buying your own bullshit.

Russians have had a "poor me" syndrome going on since Napoleon. Alexander was a cunt and did not want to lose his power over the serfs, Russians have literally just been sub IQ serfs for their entire existence, their culture revolves around corruption and "le West bad" because they have been fighting change for centuries.

Pretty much every major religious Christian nation is either a member of NATO or a close associate of NATO.

>spain
>poland
>greece
>italy
>USA

The only truly anti-nato "Christian" nation is Russia, and the head of the ROC is a schismatic shill. It's also worth noting that the percentage of percentage of Christians in NATO countries are on average higher than the percentage in russia.

Oh, and Russia is too busy murdering Christians in Ukraine to actually step in and stop Azerbaijan which is LITTERALLY, at this very moment, waging war on Armenia.

Hopefully soon

That's why he brought up Turkey. You seem to have all of this backwards: Armenia is being funded BY RUSSIA. Azerbaijan is being funded by Turkey, who is our greatest ally, and could stop them whenever they please. As you can clearly see: they don't, and we don't try to tell them to.


That's because NATO is an alliance about money, not Christianity.

If they're dumb enough to get into that fight they deserve what comes to them

Armenia could have joined NATO and decided to stick with your vatnik shithole. Notice that Turkey has not invaded or funded anything against any NATO nation, including Greece, Bulgaria, Montenegro or Romania.

>That's because NATO is an alliance about money, not Christianity.

It's a collective defensive alliance you stupid nigger, not the global christ brigade. You join NATO to not be attacked. If you're not in NATO then you rely on your allies. And Armenia's ally clearly doesn't care enough to defend it. Stop pretending that you're the ones that give a shit about Jesus when all you do is rape, steal and murder.

Nothing about the invasion has made sense to me since it started. Other than "I want to be known for reforming the USSR" there isn't a realistic explanation for any part of it. Putin overdosed on recreational polonium in his covid bunker and lost his goddamn mind. He thinks he's Stalin reincarnated or something. You can make a huge list of "Russia invaded because..." items that end with "and the opposite happened."

Issues with the Crimean War were the Russians were looking for an excuse to expand and used Christians as a hammer, which lead to their further persecution. The Bongs and French helping the Ottomans led to the Christians being unpersecuted and given rights... exactly what the Russians wanted when they started the war (we all know what they CLAIM to want is different to reality).

You might wanna look up those who nations and what their public answers on 'what religion are you'.

>Paid agent
>Jews
If they ever interacted with an actual Jew they'd know it's impossible.
No Jew would ever pay a goy

>r*ddit/normalfag censored version

pedo Joe is not NATOwave you ingrates

Spot the tourist

I don't even like nazism. But posting her without the swastika is gay as hell

This board isn't about weapons anymore. This board is just Any Forums with a different opinion.

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Drink more vodka and work it out from there.

Keep walking gentile

War is a continuation of politics.

But we still can't talk about gun control legislation?

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Listen. We don't need to post propaganda in order to make Russia look bad. They've got that covered pretty damn well.

My name is Mr nitup and i come from somewhere far away

But user, that reminds the redditors and twittertards about real life and not their star wars version in their head

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That rule has always been gay

I'd argue it's the other way around - with this being the military/weapons board, and Any Forums being politics mostly, the latter is just /k/ with a differing opinion.

You're not wrong, I just don't care. Russians have so thoroughly destroyed their reputation and any goodwill I might have had towards them that I'm willing to look the other way on this board getting spammed if it makes vatniks and polfags seethe.

Do you think the birth will involve a vaginal explosion?

Did two east Slavs fighting really offend you so?
Were you personally AGHAST when the war in Donbass for the last eight years spilled over into a conventional war?

Yes.

>offend
Shut up Any Forumsfag. I just want Russians to die and vatniks to seethe. The vatnik spam has made this board miserable for years and fucking years.
And before you get butthurt about it I was also enjoying watching the cope last summer when Afghanistan collapsed. Dilate about it

>Did two east Slavs fighting really offend you so?
Russians have been chimping long before that user. They're fucking annoying, they've practically ruined the internet for the past 8 years with all their sperging and retarded opinions. Also checked.

They both decided to apply for NATO now?

>shilling for Joe Biden on a gun board on Any Forums
I can’t wait for this stupid war to be over so you noguns trannies can be bullied out of here. Funny meme OP.

Everything southeast of Austria is subhuman and superstition-sharing is not a social suicide pact.

Let the wogs kill each other. God will know his own.

>wishing death to invaders by cheering the lads shooting at 'em
>can't get more /k/ than this

cope harder vatnik,

>Did it offend you hmm? Maybe trigger you hmm? Propagandanon natowave is for shills dont you know?? Maybe you should go back to muhreddit you /k/oper ukrainer hmmm??

Your feminine shaming strategy is not working.

Honestly m8 I frequent Any Forums, Any Forums, and the /brg/ on here.
I find the geopolitical shills on here to be self-righteous and histrionic but I have no doubt Any Forums is a copefest hellhole right now, which it has been since 2016 to be fair

>propaganda
But that’s objectively and factually exactly as it happened.

How on earth did you get Biden and elections from this? 2016 ruined Any Forums

Words are hollow and if we go by deed Russia is not acting Christian at all, not even in the slightest. It’s lip service and cynical lies covering substance of nihilism and atrocity. Russia needs to turn away from its evil before it’s too late.

>not Christianity.
Thank fuck. Last time you people banded up on the basis of faith we had to BTFO five fucking crusades against us.

The west holds to some sort of mishmash of Christian ethics that are Kantian and Utilitarian in practice, that is, people are ends in themselves and we should strive to create as many ends in themselves as possible as this maximizes human happiness. Is it Christianity as it is meant to be? Absolutely not, because it generally does not distinguish between happiness and pleasure which just ends up in a race to the moral rock-bottom with the notion of active consent being the only vestige of objective morality left, but the roots are there, even if few secular westerners like to admit it and pretend not to notice Hume's Guillotine (you can not get an Ought from an Is) when claiming that human rights is something you can deduce from empirical observation.
Still better than Russia though where the church is glowie HQ and a slavish arm of the state, only meant to lick the blood off of the hands of Caesar.

Shills managed to destroy pol, so people moved there.
I fully support turning pol into a blue board, can't stand the amount of porn and gore there...

Do you not read the entire thread before replying retard?

>pol
You have to go back.

If jannies did their unpaid job, I would.

>chechnya is part of russian federation and the islamists deserved to get their shit kicked in, meanwhile european states give up to muslims for free
>NATO refuses Russia from joining, automatically puts themselves as a rival to Russia
>Plans to invite Georgia and Ukraine in 2008
>Shit doesnt fly, westerners bullshit themselves and their gullible populace into russia bad
>2013 coup in Ukraine, Russia wont let Sevastopol & the Russian majority of Crimea fall into hostile hands and they take clay
>civil war rages for 8 years while the west barely gives a shit
>Russia invades Ukraine because... idk they had enough
the whole narrative is pants on head retarded and all the talk of "ukraine's sovereignty" is complete bullshit, especially when western leaders (like Niinistö) openly support One China policy which goes directly against everything he's said regarding Ukraine.

This may be the most retarded shit ever typed by human hands.

>Use your granted power of deciding who does what to throw your political enemies into the meat grinder
Not even a theory, this is a well-established tactic in authoritarian regime power struggles, dating back to ancient times.

Can you read?

>NATO refuses Russia from joining, automatically puts themselves as a rival to Russia
Wrong, not reading the rest of your bullshit

Wow you're right. Somebody nobody's ever heard of wants China to take Taiwan, therefore Ukraine should give up without a fight and let Russians rape and murder all of them.

1. There's only one country around Europe that you'd need to assemble that many countries against
2. NATO doesn't prevent offensive coalitions, and it even partakes in them like in the US wars since 2001
3. NATO requires more military expenditure than would be otherwise wanted or necessary, and military buildup often isn't a good thing

You're illiterate.

It's a matter of international law.
Russia does not have the right to simply take land or set up breakaway states, ESPECIALLY when bitching about how all the shit they pulled in Chechnya was justified because it was de jure Russian. The One China policy falls in line with this too, since both the ROC and PRC say that there is only one Chinese state that they are both a part of and the UN agrees.
And Russia's chimpout didn't start in 2008. Back in the 90's they back Transnistria, but more egregious was the shit they pulled here. Where they intervened in Abkhazia as "peacekeepers" only to allow the separatists to conduct region wide ethnic cleansing campaign and only stopping when Georgia joined the CIS, effectively abusing the trust the Georgian government put in them to further their own goals, which is why even Shevardnadze said he wanted to join NATO in 2002. The truth is that no one trusts these faggots, because strength is the only language they understand.

It was literally a re-hash of their invasion of Czechoslovakia all over again.

>law
You mean the law which saw ROC kicked out of UN in favor of communists because of anglos pulling strings? You mean the breakaway state of communist china that took all they wanted with violence, like so many other states in the UN? Honestly the UN is kind of a joke, it's full of completely artificial states made to pad votes on both blocs. But at least the cold war had some semblance of clarity. I don't like what Russia is doing, but like you said, they're like a retarded train that will even derail itself because it cant get off. My country had no conflict with them until this year, and I cant bloody understand why year after year you both keep flinging shit at each other. Now my country is in the shit too because our leaders have got the american gay.

>NATO refuses Russia from joining
Literally did not happen, Russia has never at any point tried to gain admittance to NATO.

>"will you be faithful to your treaty obligations if a NATO member is attacked by an aggressor"
Yes?
What a retarded question.

>predecessor tried to remove 2/3 of American troops out of Germany as his last act in office and blackmailed Ukes over aid,
>now America is arming Ukes that are killing vatnik invaders before they can rape more infants
tell us, who was friends with Epstein again user? who was president when Epstein mysteriously didn't kill himself?

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Because he moved them to Poland, MENSA Member.

No , Ivan, no war with NATO for you. No face-saving defeat. You are gonna get BOMBED with YOUR OWN NUKES.

>Before it's too late
I have bad news for you m80: It's been "too late" in Russia for hundreds of years. They'll always be rats.

Nice narrative you setup here, faggot, even if it's obviously cherry-picked for every one, daring to at least do little internet search.

Ironically people around St. Petersburg are whiter than americans, plenty of blue eyes and blonde hair. Makes sense considering all the Scandi migrations and later all the Germans working for Peter. Another reason why I hate this development. I'd just end up shooting another Finn who doesn't even know he's one.

No this board is about weapons AND war

An internal struggle for control is not the same as setting up a breakaway state.
>I cant bloody understand why year after year you both keep flinging shit at each other
Again, we don't trust them, they won't leave until we renounce our western ambitions, but if we do that, then who will guarantee our security and integrity? We'll have to deal with Russia by ourselves and that never worked out well.

Eastern European Union would make more sense. Hungary and Poland are iffy about EU anyway, and it'd make a better bridge between paranoid Russia and Western pride. Let Putin die of old age and accumulate our wealth to the point where people forget their grievances. Aside from memes, we did. But since EEU will never happen, just get nukes and use them. The fallout isn't that much compared to all the tons of fuel in chernobyl, and nobody gives a shit about eastern ukraine anyway.

Armenia can't even handle azerbaijan let alone turkey

The only place armenia ever conquered is glendale, california.

he never did tho shill
washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-approves-plan-to-withdraw-one-third-of-us-troops-from-germany/2020/06/05/987b2d38-a775-11ea-b473-04905b1af82b_story.html

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He moved the troops from Germany into Poland, shot at the Wagner group and obliterated them, missiled Assad twice and retroactively enforced Obama's own red line, approved lethal aid to Ukraine when Obama didn't and said he'd nuke Russia if they tried to invade Ukraine.

He isn't a Vatnick shill, just schizo.

>I LOVE JOE BIDEN AND CURRENT THING AND UKRAINE!!! VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!! WHO NEEDS GUNS WHEN THEY COULD BE GOING TO UKRAINE!!
well yeah, Biden was much more helpful to the Ukrainian people than Trump was, no doubt about it. Still, cheering for people rightfully defending their land is exactly the /k/ thing so what is your problem Sergey?

>cheering for people rightfully defending their land is exactly the /k/ thing
This. I still don't get how /chug/ can't understand such a simple thing.

Unsurprising since they've been toying with the idea since shortly after the invasion 2+ months ago.

>>NATO refuses Russia from joining, automatically puts themselves as a rival to Russia
Give proofs, suka. Also, checked.

R*ssia agreed to Ukrainian sovereignty, you fucking vatn*g. "Hurrr durrr, the population didn't like our puppet government and ousted it" is not a valid excuse to break that treaty.

Democrats started proxy war with Russia with Ukraine (which is irelevantni in all this) as medium to drag EU into it and cripple it by cutting it off it's cheap supply of energy (Russia).
EU block has became too powerful and started going increasingly independent, after this intervention it's back under US control and significantly weakened.
Only one powerful enemy will remain - China.
Russia itself is irrelevant in all this, it's small economy that is technologically undeveloped and not any real threat to US dominance.

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Pretty sure OP's pic is like 7-8 years old.

Idaho oblast?

What

>theocratic state.
It wasn't a theocratic state until Russians killed Dudayev

>no swastika?
>NO SWASTIKA!?!?!?!?
>AHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M LOSING MY MIND

chill, bruh

Russia basically planned an invasion on the premise that the Ukrainians were not going to put up much in the way of resistance, which really speaks to just how fucked up their government, military, and intelligence apparatus must be to come to such a conclusion.

THERE ONCE WAS A MAN CALLED VLA D. MIR LENIN, WHO WAS KING OF THE VATNICKS, HE HAD WAR CRIMES, ALCOHOLISM, AND POVERTY BEYOND YOUR WILDEST IMAGINATION.

BEFORE THEY ROBBED HIS ORGANS, THESE WERE THE FINAL WORDS HE SAID:

"MY LOLCOW IS YOURS FOR THE TAKING, YOU JUST HAVE TO LOSE YOUR FLAGSHIP FIRST. I LEFT EVERYTHING I OWN IN 'CUM PITS'!"

EVER SINCE, VATNICKS FROM ALL OVER RUSSIA DRUNK DRIVE TOWARDS UKRAINE, SEARCHING FOR THE CUM PITS, THE TREASURE THAT WOULD MAKE THEIR DREAMS COME TRUE!

YO

YA YO YA YO

DREAMIN'
DON'T GIVE IT UP MONKE
DREAMIN'
DON'T GIVE IT UP SHOIGU
DREAMIN'
DON'T GIVE IT UP LAVROV
DREAMIN'
DON'T GIVE IT
GIVE IT UP
GIVE IT UP
GIVE IT UP
GIVE IT
NO

HERE'S HOW THE STORY GOES,
WE FOUND OUT
ABOUT THE CUM PITS IN AZOVSTAL
THERE'S NO DOUBT

THE VATNICK WHOSE EYES ARE ON IT WILL SING
"I'M THE KING OF THE VATNICKS! I HAVE HIV"

YA YO YA YO

HIS NAME IS MONKE!
THAT'S MONKE THE RUSSKI
GONNA BE KING OF THE VATNICKS

"HE'S TURNED TO BLUBBER!"
"HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?!"
"YO HO HO, HE ATE UKRAINIAN GUN-GUNS!"

YA YO YA YO

HIS NAME'S SHOIGU AND HE THINKS HE'S SAMURAI
WHILE THE C-U-C-K LAVROV'S ABOUT TO CRY
KADYROV'S DOIN' THOSE TIK TOK THANGS
LUKA'S FARMING,
STELKOV'S DOOMPOSTING

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Like US assumptions in Afghanistan and Syria where any better.

Kek

flags in this image make zero sense

to topple the ukrainian govt in 2 days and leave the world in awe at how stronk russia is
remember that article russian state media published and then deleted:
web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html

Yes. Are you retarded?

>and said he'd nuke Russia if they tried to invade Ukraine
By that point they already had. Also, friendly reminder that he PRAISED Putin for this invasion when he heard about it.
>missiled Assad twice
Targeting fucking runways, literally the easiest fucking thing to repair of all military structures. He also fucked the Kurds over badly by having us pull out immediately after having us take over their forward positions so they were literally fucking overrun because of him.

I hated Obama's handling of Syria, but fuck me did he look like a foreign policy and military genius next to Trump.

>Russians have been chimping long before that user. They're fucking annoying, they've practically ruined the internet for the past 8 years with all their sperging and retarded opinions
That was only partly sperging out, the bulk was clear shilling
According to one analysis 1/5 of the comments on major news sites in my country was straight glavset shilling in this time

>Also, friendly reminder that he PRAISED Putin for this invasion when he heard about it.
He said it was cleverly executed, not that it was good

>He also fucked the Kurds over badly
never have been real US allies, unlike Turkey

I notice you went and ignored Trump literally starting a battle with Russian soldiers in Syria. Crimea taken in 2014, Donbabwe war in 2022, if muh Drumpf is so pro russian, why didnt anything happen during his time?

In France a magazine of geopolitics translated the article.
Pretty hilarious, it say that the ukrainian is gladly being reunited with russia as «malorus», that the «anglo saxon unipolar world» is doomed and that eventually europe will join russia against the evil us and uk.
Litteraly one week later the exact same author wrote an article where he say that russia will be destroyed if they lose in ukraine.
No one has translated it in english ?

imagine it has been somewhere but chrome translate is pretty good desu
and yeh you can see why they removed it. vatnigs are mentally ill

>never have been real US allies, unlike Turkey
Absolutely fuck off.
>I notice you went and ignored Trump literally starting a battle with Russian soldiers in Syria.
If I thought it was an intentional decision on his part, I'd give him credit for it. Every fucking decision I know he was involved in was either bad or pointless. Let's not fucking kid ourselves, the military was mostly on autopilot in Syria for the longest time since they had just finished crafting a major long term strategy in 2016 that they were executing in response to ISIS.

>if muh Drumpf is so pro russian, why didnt anything happen during his time?
Maybe Russia needed time to prep? There were 6 years between Georgia and Crimea too. I highly fucking doubt Russia fucking felt threatened by the guy defending them at every single fucking step of the way. Trump shit on China constantly, but he never had a bad thing to say about Russia or Putin. I still remember him defending Putin assassinating journalists.

>Russia is religious
Honestly your list could be much longer, even the UK has a higher church attendance rate (9% weekly) than Russia (4.5% weekly)

Nothing on that post makes sense

This. The concept is called Fait Accompli, forcing someone to accept something because it was already decided.

take your meds

>spilled over
Always with this passive tense.

>decision I know he was involved in was either bad or pointless.
Trump looks like a legit genius at this point. Most of what he's said was proven true.
>Russia needed time to prep?
Ukraine was much weaker back then. Russia hasn't gotten stronger but Ukraine got teeth. What prep did Russia supposedly need.
>felt threatened by the guy defending them
This conflict proves Trump was right. Biden is weak inviting an invasion. Trump acts crazy and tells Putin that Putin is too smart to invade. Praising Putin is the only way to get Putin to listen. Putin is ego centric.
>shit on China constantly,
Also correct. Why don't Democrats do this. Chinese are obsessed with "face" so should never be given any.
>defending Putin assassinating journalists
Journalists are glorified activists or government propagandists. No great loss. If you attack Putin he won't listen.

>NATO refuses Russia from joining,
This never happened. Ditto with the EU. In both cases, Russia never formally submitted a petition, nor did it ever make any of the needed reforms.
>while the west barely gives a shit
And yet the Russians were crying that NATO was 'arming' Ukraine for an invasion of Russia.

>NATO refuses Russia from joining
Vatniks unironically can't not lie

>There's only one country around Europe that you'd need to assemble that many countries against
A country which, unlike Germany, never did anything to atone or assuage the concerns of those around it, substituting instead victimhood and disingenuous bellowing.
>like in the US wars since 2001
Article V was only used for Afghanistan. Nothing else that happened used the NATO infrastructure. Indeed, countries that weren't in NATO sent forces to Iraq and Afghanistan, and countries that were didn't participate.

>Praising Putin is the only way to get Putin to listen.
>Chinese are obsessed with "face" so should never be given any.
Trolling is an art and you lower the artform.

losing all my guns and rights is a small price to pay to fight vatnikmort in Ukrainwarts. remember to vote blue no matter who this november. I am a totally organic poster

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>Trump looks like a legit genius at this point
"The US should paint F-22s in Chinese colors and use them to bomb Russians in Ukraine" is genius?
>. What prep did Russia supposedly need.
2019 Ukraine elections to see whether Ukraine could be be brought back to the fold/the internal legitimacy of Ukraine's government. Subversion of the West/promotion of internal discord within NATO and the EU.
>Biden is weak inviting an invasion
No evidence indicates that Russia's primary operational constraint is whoever's in the White House, especially given that a US president's powers are limited.
>also correct
Nothing productive came of it, the dodge to blame them for the USA's inept pandemic response being the last and most productive example.
>Why don't Democrats do this
Like passing an infrastructure bill so that the US can have a semi-modern basis for competing with China?

This board is just an obvious psyop now. You have a board that wished the ATF was dead and buried 3 months ago now praising Joe Biden and wishing for a new Assault Weapons ban because it might 'make vatnik cry'. It's an example of one of the most effective propaganda campaigns on the internet on the one board that should have resisted it the most.
Who knew all it took to make the board that hated the government and its arms the most to love the biggest government politicians was telling them Russians had infiltrated the board. The board that has had a slavshit general ongoing for the past decade and a half.

You should spend less time on Any Forums. It's not good for you.

And yet Putin was the one who brought up JK Rowling.

What are gun laws in russia like

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>praising Joe Biden and wishing for a new Assault Weapons ban because it might 'make vatnik cry'
Why vatniggers literally can't stop lying

>please vote for gun grabbers and take away my guns because Russia and Putin.
>No I don't need a better justification than that, just vote blue, something something putin russia truuuuuuuuuuuuuump

>hur you had sks so u love rusha cyka
Shit nugget for a reason retard, post guns or go back
Who are you quoting retard

Any Forums is a way better board than this is now. Probably because it's an actual politics board and threads like this need to be moved there because it's not fucking weapons.

user what are gun laws in Russia like

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then go back and stay back noguns nigger

>Why vatniggers literally can't stop lying
There are literally posts in this very thread and in every one of these shitty Russia politics threads praising Joe Biden because... Trump or something. Every one of these threads has that retarded image of him sitting on a NATO throne in what is obviously pretty transparent propaganda.
Let's ignore the fact he's a gun grabber and is from a party of gun grabbers, because "HE MAKES VATNIGGERS SEETHE".

I don't give a shit about your internal 'murrican politics. It belongs on Any Forums, not /k/.

>retarded image of him sitting on a NATO throne
That picture was made by the chinese
user, i will ask you again because gun laws in America are the best they have been in literal decades: What are gun laws in russia like

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You talking about the
>grab their guns, due process later
guy? Fucking vatnigger, kys

Then why don't you go back there?

>Who are you quoting retard

>user what are gun laws in Russia like
>And yet Putin
>What are gun laws in russia like
>but muh RUSSSIAAA
>but muh PUUTTINNNN
>SUPPORRRRTTTT BIIIDEENNNNN

ah yes the gun grabber will surely fight voldeputin in ukranwarts, be sure to use your mail in ballots, I'm a real organic poster

the complete lack of self awareness from a boardshitter who can't stop posting russia threads on /k/ complaining about shit belonging on Any Forums

And yet Putin was the one who brought up JK Rowling.

Your reddit spacing schizo rambling isn't a argument nor makes any sense, but i accept your concession

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>user, i will ask you again because gun laws in America are the best they have been in literal decades thanks to Joe Biden who did not make a new assault weapons ban a campaign promise and did not attempt to impose restrictions on ammunition
>you must support him because RUSISAAAAAA

Meds

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Military matters belong on /k/, 'murrican politics on Any Forums. Which part of this is it that you do not understand?

Russia lost the first war.
It then killed its own civilians in a false flag just to start the second war, in which it resulted to flattening Grozny. It's a perfectly valid example of Russia's military pigheadedness.

these threads and all of these off-topic Any Forumsshit threads surely do not have rambling schizoposters who make everything about putin and russia to justify their retarded support of gun grabbing politicians and discussion of retarded wars on /k/ instead of Any Forums.

>MUH PUUUTUTTINNNNNNN
like this guy

>Military matters belong on /k/, 'murrican politics on Any Forums.
This entire conflict is 100% American politics and has zero place on /k/. You're allowed here because you're inorganic posters who have simply flooded the board.

You're the only one screeching about gun grabbing and begging for people to not bully the hecking Putterino retard
>like this guy

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>"I'M THE KING OF THE VATNICKS! I HAVE HIV"
lost

>the Russian invasion of Ukraine is 100% American politics
This is your brain on Any Forums.

because these threads and all of these off-topic Any Forumsshit threads surely do not have specifically American political support in it stoked by retarded whataboutism about hecking putterino
>like these guys
or anyone who unironically says 'vatnik'
basically shut the fuck up you idiot shill. I hope shareblue pays you more than sucking dick on the street corner.

Any Forums is literally the board you should be posting this in. This has zero to do with weapons.
>BUT MUH MILITARY
Your entire discussion of it is an American political circus blown up over a proxy war halfway around the globe. It shouldn't be here.

>or anyone who unironically says 'vatnik'
So you think vatnik is a new thing?

Aw, does the word "vatnik" trigger you? Maybe you should go back to your safe space on Any Forums?

i think if you bitch and moan about them on /k/ when you should be posting about them on Any Forums it shows a distinct lack of IQ

Lots of people on /k/ like militaries often for simple reasons. NATO is a large military organisation, ego lots of people on /k/ like NATO. Everything else is extra - Russia happens to be projected itself as an anti-NATO state, so it falls by the wayside here.
It's on Any Forums that you'll get utterly insane reasons why a board filled with neo-Nazis is supporting a foreign state that has pledged to "denazify" another.

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You will not live to see the end of this decade.

>says politics nigger posting about politics on /k/

I don't give a shit about your 'murrican politics. Just because you are obsessed with them it doesn't mean everyone else is.

hm

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You're the one posting about politics, schizo.

Russian leadership never recovered from the fall of the Soviet Union. Their mentality is still the same, but humiliated and paranoid. Simple as.

oh no the shareblue shill is going to rise up with his antifasisters and totally take over the US in two weeks and kill all the rightoids on /k/, shut the fuck up. in a decade you'll still be living in your mother's basement

>his antifasisters
i don't go on Any Forums though

That's right, so go to Any Forums
you're literally in a politics thread that doesn't belong on this board

yeah you make Any Forumsthreads on /k/ which is even more sad and pathetic, tell me how you're gonna RISE UP and kill everyone again little timmy

>oh no the shareblue shill is going to rise up with his antifasisters and totally take over the US in two weeks and kill all the rightoids on /k/
what did he mean by this?

yeah

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>complains about muh imaginary shills trying to take muh guns from tenessee oblast
>proceeds to fedpost
Yeah
Post guns

Countries with ongoing land disputes cannot join NATO.
This is why putin invaded crimea. It guaranteed that Ukraine won’t join NATO anytime soon.

Don't forget fighting tooth and nail over Nordstream 2, which Biden promptly rolled over on the moment he got into office

im saying these threads bring out the little internet tough guy shitheads who say retarded shit like "You will not live to see the end of this decade." when they're really just fucking losers posting about politics on /k/ because Any Forums is too scary for them

LMAO, you think the Ukraine joining the EU and removing R*ssia as a serious geopolitical rival to them will WEAKEN the EU? Are you serious? Do you think the oil and gas supplies will be stopped forever?

I pity U.S. strategists if that is their idea of 4D chess. Thanks for the free ride all these years, by the way. Sucks that public opinion demands that we waste more on the military now.

So this is the new Russian cope? Set EU and US against each other?
It really feels like whoever is in charge of Russia acts like a grade schooler playing a paradox map painting simulator. Although that’s insulting to grade schoolers. And I suppose paradox as well.

I'm in a thread about a military invasion that some brain dead Any Forumstard is trying to derail by screeching about how everything is 'murrican politics.

Germany, you mean. Biden doesn't get a say in Nordstream.

Reminder that your socialist faggot ran away from Afghanistan, left our civilians to rot while he begged Taliban to take care of them, left them $80 000 000 000 in gear while he tries to disarm citizens to that his little pedos can molest kids during riots and is the only reason why Russia felt bold enough to invade.

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Nah, you just go to r/latestagecapitalism and watch Hassan on Twitch.

i don't even know who the fuck that is, but you seem very similiar with it

Yes, he is very popular with nogun leftoids who serve as soviet fifth column in the USA. Like you.

Genuinely curious what are the gun laws in russia?

Post butter vatnigger.

It's Vatnik psyops. They figure if they can stir up some interior strife in the US it'll take us out of Ukraine. Can't call them on it, though, or they get all defensive.

i'm not sucking russian cock though

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Reminder that we spent 4 years in Afghanistan under Trump and didn't accomplish anything.

it seems russia is still stuck in 17th century level geopolitics and hasnt realized if you keep threatening smaller countries they can simply join the EU or NATO and russia cannot touch them

we are just making fun of how idiotic anti-NATO propaganda is so that it makes a senile fossil look badass

And then we spent few months in there under comrade Biden and got humiliated on the world's stage.

Pro-Nato...ooof

>implying Georgia hasn't been begging to be let into NATO for decades now

>'m not sucking russian cock though
If you are democrat or any other type of leftist you inadvertently do their bidding.

I think leftists should be removed from any functional society

The Soviets talked about joining knowing full well it was set up to counter them “just in case”, then when the inevitable no dice reaction, “why you bully us”. Russia never applied and the former soviet states rightfully wanted to join because, well…
>gestures broadly at the last 20 odd years

Expansion of NATO, disarmament of Russia, balkinization of the RF and crashing the Russian economy. He's really an intelligence agent from Estonia.

Blame Moot’s faggot ass for directly placing that rule and now blame hiroshimoot’s dumb nip ass for not reversing it. It is stupid and was only done because moot wanted to clean Any Forums up as much as possible for quick sale and was incredibly gunshy about allowing people to talk about anything that might invite Any Forumstroons in. Because they still fucking do it anyway.
/k/ needs a dedicated mod that isn’t some discord tranny that probably splits his time between /k/ and Any Forums.

>he doesn't understand there's plenty of Leftists that completely hate the Russians and Soviets for a variety of reasons
Retard detected, "Marxist"-"Leninists", Stalinists and tankies get the bullets first and any true socialist would agree that democracy is the only source of legitimacy for any government. As such, the right of the people to be armed to defend democracy is paramount.

Yes, Armenia surely will attack Turkey. It's only a matter of days. You're a genius

If we had a proper /k/ mod we would have a Rhodesian themed board for UDI day every year

>twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1524816880464273408
Unironically, Putin is doing this in order to go out with a bang.

This is a anime website first, gun board second nigger
But i agree with the rest

it stopped being le anime website more than a decade ago, when the number of non-weeb boards exceeded the number of weeb boards
nobody cares what moot had in mind when he created his something awful spinoff two decades ago, he's not even here anymore
get over it

>it stopped being le anime website more than a decade ago
it never did tourist

Why would someone make this awful meme
I don't understand

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I hate Russia, but

>what's he gonna say?
>"I hate Russia, but does anyone else think Ukraine is doomed?"
>"I hate Russia, but did you notice Putin was right about ____?"
No.

I hate Russia, and I am glad Russia's effort in Ukraine is doomed, but I will still NEVER support this fucking faggot. I will never give him an ounce of credit even if he happens to accidentally be right, I will never give him the benefit of the doubt, and if you ever voted for him you need to get the FUCK off of /k/ right now.

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OK boomer

>Draws itself big
>Still sits in its filthy cuck corner IRL, unable to intervene like a bitch
LMAO, will the cucked americancer bitch ever learn?

Does Russia have gun laws? That's the one area they and Americans are eerily similar.

no one is supporting this faggot you retard, he's also losing midterms and will never be able to pass a AWB

Yes, exactly. And facebook is still a website to rate Harvard girls.

>all these redditor NPCs supporting NATO

cringe. cmon vlad. just nuke everything

>That's the one area they and Americans are eerily similar.
No, they aren't
You can only have a gun license in Russia through bribing, and only after 5 years you can own shitty smooth bore rifles

No

Cope, seethe and dilate
NATO won
Anime website

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...

Imagine wasting how ever much time of it took to make whatever this is

The Soviet Union outlawed virtually everything yet constantly played Charlie Brown football with hunting shotguns, moving between "You can have them no questions asked" to "You can have them so long as you're a dues-paying member of The Patriotic Soviet Society of Hunters" to, I'm sure this will shock you, a 1941 law declaring that every gun in existence was now government property and must be surrendered immediately for defensive purposes in the Great Parotitic War.

Those institutions survived into the modern Russian era, until 2014, when surprisingly Russia passed a very French/German style gun control system - be a good goy, get your background check and your safe and you can now have any semi-automatic rifle or shotgun you please, 10 round limit, you might even be able to get a CCW.

Then in 2021 they yanked the rug out and banned everything again, ostensibly in response to a school shooting in which Ilnaz Galyaviev somehow managed to kill 9 people and wound 23 others while firing only 17 shots

Considering the way the State Duma actually functions, it seems likely that due to some retarded whim Putin wanted people to be legal gun owners in 2014 and he didn't want them to be anymore in 2021.

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russia is literally right. actually keking at natofags lmao hahahahahaha

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Seethe redditor

>no one is supporting this faggot you retard
Haven't been to /k/ lately?
This board is absolutely overrun with "well, I like guns but protecting democracy is more important" or "he said you should buy a shotgun and that's all you need" posts since February.
I spent an entire thread the other day arguing with a retard who literally believed Biden and Obama were gun rights advocates and kept spamming New York Times links supporting that statement

If russians had any guns you think Putin would still be in power?

No it has not
Fuck off nigger

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Based if true

>random irrelevant Segway so armenoid can seethe up the thread
No wonder no one likes you

>well, I like guns but protecting democracy is more important
the only people i've seen saying something similar to this are russian shills saying giving guns to civillians is a bad thing, see

NATO?
1. Destabilize the region to justify intervention
2. Create a strawman evil and make falseflag attacks to unify the NPCs under pro-war propaganda
3. Money laundering/investment through military-industrial complex

They've been doing this for half a century, about time to learn the script.

Russia?
Probably had no choice but to invade. Maybe Putin got intel on Ukraine joining NATO or something like that.
Russians were clearly unrepaired and had no plan.
I mean, invading AFTER winter? It was a panic move.

I don't know what to tell you, since of course any shill or shitposter can say anything, but it's just weird if you claim you haven't been seeing it at all

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post swastika

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You're literally the first person to bring up the name you dumb fuck. Go back to Any Forums you have brain-rot from hanging out there so long

why are russoids obsessed with haripoter?

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I'm pretty sure it's done ironically. The juxtaposition of massive force lead by an icon of decay highlights the absurdity of propaganda and induces humor on the enjoyer.

All proxy wars are payback for Vietnam. We even killed Russian pilots there. What goes around comes around punk bitch

KNEEL subhuman

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say it with me /chug/:
DINDU

Where on the doll did reddit touch you? Oh, wait I already know

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Like clockwork

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Yep like clockwork. Generic no argument, just indoctrinated pro-western NPC denial as usual.

both parties suck
here's another vatnik shilling against guns for citizens

>no u
Like clockwork
post guns, butter, bread and orange

nah, it's more like west virginia being a baptist theocratic state within the us, us sending the army to wv saying "stop being baptist and theocratic", the army getting btfo and the gov't going "okay you can be theocratic, just keep your baptists within west virginia if possible, kthxbye".

you lied
simple as

>"must.follow.scripts"
Whatever make you happy man. Even if it's lack of questioning the authority.

What idiot mod moved a thread at 277 replies
Please fire this janny

>Probably had no choice but to invade. Maybe Putin got intel on Ukraine joining NATO or something like that.
Sovereign countries can join any international organization without asking Russia for approval, I know this is a difficult concept to grasp for vodkaniggers, but it's the truth.

now post with real flag

kek