The point of the offensive was to tie Ukrainian troops down so that the eastern offensive push forward (which they did somewhat).
Putin continues to play 4D chess and is truly a master strategist.
Russia never intended to take Kiev
Mason Jones
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Joshua Perry
No, russia fucked up big time, they're a laughing stock, they have captured ZERO significant population centres, ZERO strategic objectives, they have failed to paralyze the ukranian military, they are so fucking incompetent the ukranians are actually mounting successful counter attacks, its over.
Elijah Thompson
>somewhat
Bentley Edwards
This was obvious to anyone making a rational assessment of the situation and not gobbling up every piece of western propaganda
Lucas Murphy
>one of them is trying to win the war
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Jayden Campbell
Just cope. Russia would've certainly like to take Kiev, and they thought it would be easy. After being unable to capture it outright, they're pretending they never wanted to while shifting their focus to objectives they stand a change of achieving.
Camden Bell
I heard that and that Russia didn't know they'd fight back so it's really Ukraine's fault it escalated. I never thought I'd see "we were just invading you and killing civilians ironically" from big strong Russia.
Eli Ortiz
You're right but I definitely think capturing Kiev was like a side option once they realized the resistance was too high they said fuck it and focused on main goal
Jayden Moore
>Those are just ukrops changing the uniforms of thousands of soldiers.
>Definetly photoshopped bro
>Look at this obscure video with shitty quality and a fucked up perspective.
>No, those are salobliadki who are denying civilians humanitarian aid, not us.
>Never intended to take kiev
>It's all 4D chess bro
Maybe you should turn off the fucking phone and go bake yourself a pie, you absolute faggot?
Anthony Long
hard to find a more glaring example of Aesop's fox...I mean just look at this coping faggot
Jeremiah Lopez
isn't it true that putin didn't intend on taking kiev/ukraine, just donetsk and luhansk? wasn't the initial claim just to recognize donbas independence?
Hudson Moore
>wasn't the initial claim just to recognize donbas independence?
no. it was about "denazifying." do you really not remember?
Nathaniel James
I AM BAKING PIES NIGGER, DO I LOOK LIKE I CARE?
Dominic Howard
Correct. And now, after wrapping things up in Mariupol, resting and resupplying, maybe being relieved and reinforced, they'll go north/northeast and finish the cauldron around Ukraine's main force. After eliminating that, the war will be over.
Brayden Ross
>Putin continues to play 4D chess and is truly a master strategist.
Yes, and Stalin was a people person
Gavin Harris
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No, it is going according to Putin's keikaku,
The plan is as follows:
1. give Ukraine a handicap and drag the war on for months
2. the sanctions hurt the EU more than Russia
3. EU countries realize they desperately need Russian oil, they drop the sanctions
4. then Russia will commence a full offensive and wipe out Ukraine within a week
Result: Russia emerges as the hegemon of all of Europe
Michael Evans
well yeah, "denazifying" donbas. I don't remember russia claiming it intended to take over all of ukraine in it's "denazifying" efforts, just the east
good luck with your pies user
Carter Flores
cope however you need to. tomorrow is a new day
Josiah Price
Russia will be remembered as a historic failure.
Jacob Mitchell
>good luck with your pies user
Good luck to you too with whatever the endeavors are, user.
Cameron Morris
No that's not what's happening. After they attempted a Crimean-style takeover of the city it became impossible by like Day 3 for them to take it, so they just sat there doing nothing because they were vastly outnumbered and in order to take a city the size of Kyiv they needed to be the ones who did the outnumbering by like a factor of 3. Instead they had like 60,000 troops sit outside the city act as a distraction front because they'd need 200,000 at minimum to take the city and their entire force in Ukraine before casualties was like 175,000.
This "pretending they never wanted it" is western cope considering Russia is still being weaselly and pretending like they don't want the territory they already control. So of course they "pretend like they don't want Kiev" when they are still pretending to this day that they aren't going to outright annex Kherson when it's obvious to anybody with eyes that they are.
Russia's biggest problem was Putin's delusional belief that this entire war was going to be a Crimean style take-over and thus decided to spread an already out-numbered force across like 10 different fronts. Now they have to reposition everything from the Kyiv front to Kharkiv and treat this conflict like a proper war, not one where they can roll in and just take everything over.
If Donbass falls, which is the next objective after Mariupol, 70,000 Ukrainians will need to be captured or killed considering Zelensky is firing generals that keep telling him that they need to retreat to more defensible ground. If 70,000 Ukrainians are captured/killed that will constitute 30% of Ukraine's entire military and will lead to a complete collapse of the Eastern Side of the Dniepr. Russia should have prioritized doing this from the start and not sent troops to Sumy/Chernihiv/Kyiv, but it's clear that's what they are doing now. Ukraine's only hope was using their human shield strategy, there is nowhere in the Donbass where they can effectively use this strategy.
John Price
imagine reading all that
Adrian Hughes
>LMAO BRO UR POST IS JUST 30 SECONDS MORE READING THAN IM DOING TODAY
imagine being american
Zachary Martinez
>LMAO
lmao
Jayden Hughes
I read it