correlation between degeneracy and drugs use is well...around 100%. There isnt a degeneracy movement like hippies or occult globohomo movement that wasnt 100% drugged up.
Tell me again how are drugs helping you to "exapand your mind" you dumb retarded hippie.
That being said, teatolitarism is naive since even chamomile tea is psychoactive - how do we use drugs in non-degenerate way? What is the cutoff?
Some people are very skilled on motorcycles, and can ride suped up bikes very fast without crashing. Most people don't have this ability and need to be cautious on motorcycles. Sticking to very easy to ride ones and controllable speeds. Drugs are the same thing. Though I think there are drugs that require super human levels of discipline to partake "responsibly" so there's no one who should take them.
>how do we use drugs in non-degenerate way? What is the cutoff? you have an objective standard for the bare minimum a person is responsible to live up to. Something like >Gainfully employed >not on welfare >starting a family Not meant to be a super high standard just the "bare minimum". If a person is achieving this standard then they ought to be able to do whatever they want otherwise. If by some impossible chance a guy can maintain his life while also smoking crack then he's figured it out. If a guy's life is in shambles and he smokes weed profusely, then it's reasonable to think that his indulgences are holding him back. Maybe people who care about him should step in and force better choices. Maybe there's some threshold where the state should step in. We don't acknowledge a bare minimum and people are living increasingly frivolous lives while also being drug addicts. No one can say what the problem is or if there's a problem because there's no standard.
Aaron Powell
>Sticking to very easy to ride ones and controllable speeds. Drugs are the same thing.
good point but its not that normies are buying motorcycles massivly today, but they are massivly using all kinds of drugs
>steroids are fucking awesome faggot
should we even call them drugs? They affects your hormones more than your brain
Drugs are basically chemical biohacking, an archaic precursor to transhumanism if you will. Abstinence is perfectly fine (I'm personally abstinent) but if you reached your physical and mental peak and want to go beyond that, a disciplined approach to psychoactives is a solution. All those ancient cultures that dealt with psychoactive compounds, such as ancestral Aryans who imbibed mythical soma, built entire initiation ceremonies around them that limited them to those of certain occupation or aptitude and required the presence of trusted authority to control dosage and response. The current promotion of mass-consumption of drugs (not just street drugs like meth and heroin but also prescription meds and even alcohol and caffeine) in modern society is what you'd call counter-initiation since it serves the opposite purpose. It encourages those of poor physique and inhibitions to essentially self-medicate on a recreational basis and make themselves more subservient to the transnational financial elite.
>reached your physical and mental peak and want to go beyond that
this is transhumanism thinking, but not all drugs are about "reaching" somethin if you can even reach it with drugs. Some are just simple pain reliefs like chamomile tea or helping body recover from stress etc.
>All those ancient cultures that dealt with psychoactive compounds
Im aware, but what they did is opening themselves for demonic influence, nothing good came from any culture that used those ceremonies
Joseph Mitchell
what's wrong with being high all day if it doesn't affect others? there are degenerate drug users there are also functioning drug users
Jason Lee
alcohol is a psychoactive drug most people are just fine drinking it everyday
Blake Brown
>there are degenerate drug users >there are also functioning drug users
yes, but in general, more drug use is in all cases correlates with rampant degeneracy, all degenerates are drug users, but not all drug users are degenerates, which means we should figure this out
>alcohol is a psychoactive drug
yes, butyou still needed more heavier drugs to put hippie destruction in motion, alcohol wasnt enough
Im not even categorically against it, drug culture and presenting weed as harmless is what the real problem is.
Christian Campbell
>That being said, teatolitarism is naive since even chamomile tea is psychoactive - how do we use drugs in non-degenerate way? What is the cutoff? Once you get the message, hang up the phone.
Jeremiah Howard
functioning drug users are responsible, which is usually a product of intelligence niggers, for example, are mentally retarded and cannot be responsible when inebriated
Nolan Gomez
>want to go beyond that, a disciplined approach to psychoactives is a solution This is a degenerate cope. No drug can enlighten or enhance your quality of thought (the best you can do is suppress you body's urge to rest, which isn't healthy or good). They create hallucinations and "revelations" by temporarily throwing the brain into a state of insanity by chemically disrupting the body. Any thought garnered from drug use is no better than those derived from a schizophrenic episode. This is perhaps the most degenerate line of thinking, because not only do you lower yourself to the level of a materialist, you wrongly attribute metaphysical value to the mundane, purely material experience of your brain being poisoned. Sin is sin. It doesn't matter to what degree it affects others, nor how functional it leaves the sinner. It is wrong in and of itself. see picrel A third of people never drink. A third of people rarely drink. Most people don't drink everyday. It is not normal. The remaining third often drinks at dangerous levels. The top 10% of drinkers drink at lethal levels, account for an insanely disproportionate percentage of alcohol purchases, and without them the alcohol industry couldn't survive in its current state.
smart people are still smart while inebriated I knew an alcoholic political scientist he laughed more when he was drunk, but was still just as intelligent