How do the redditiers of Any Forums justify the environmental impact of their lithium batteries and electric cars?
How do the redditiers of Any Forums justify the environmental impact of their lithium batteries and electric cars?
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we're going to FUCK the earth RIGHT IN THE CRUST
Source me up chief, I don't trust Twitter blue checkmark brainlets.
>25000+30000+5000+25000=85000
Where is he getting 500000 pounds figure?
when you dig up fossil fuels, you burn them and they're gone forever, but batteries can be recycled.
why not just electrolise hydrogen out of water using energy from thorium reactors
>>thorium reactors
are a fucking meme and have no advantages over conventional molten salt reactors. In the west, we'll be lucky to get new reactors period. The west just can't do big projects anymore.
>>hydrogen
hydrogen storage is still an issue and there isn't much hydrogen distribution infrastructure in place
>call others redditors
>uses twitter as a source
youre a tool son.
Why aren't these batteries recyclable?
It seems to me they should be. It's not as if those elements are destroyed.
We have no redditors here. If we do send them to Canada, to purify or blood
I think he mentions you need to dig up the ore, which is not all crust. So perhaps you must dig up x lbs of crust to get 1 lb of ore.
Look out of window. Environment seems fine. No problem.
nothing to see here
they are
>Brine is mined
The absolute state of oil shills
itt chuds pretending to not know about the petroleum industry
how tf those walls don't collapse and holes don't get filled with water?
I don't see the problem. Saltwater batteries are cheap, good for grid storage, and easy to manufacture, so why shouldn't we use lithium for consumer electronics? Is this some ecological argument? Are they ignorant of the ecological damage caused by fossil fuel extraction?
>wind energy bad because landfills
>batteries bad because they are made from metals
i think the part this thread is missing is the 'comparing the fully-considered enironmental impact of this and the alternatives '
otherwise this just seems to be a contrarian circlejerk
Clearly the walls are sturdy enough to support the weight of the water pressing against them, but to account for water infiltration the mining company must pump out water at an average rate equal to the infiltration rate to prevent water from filling the pit.
Every economic activity will cause some environmental damage. I mean stone age tribes kill wild animals and chop down trees, you cant live without doing some damage.
1) Not true
2) Energy independence from perfidious thirdies >>> whatever gay idealogy you hold dear
critics are dime a dozen, come up with a solution or kill yourself to be one
Imagine one of those walls collapsing and thousands of tons of water rushing in, what a grand sight that would be
That would take explosives. They spend a fortune analyzing the site to ensure that doesn't happen. The economics of mining becomes complicated quickly.
What do they do with all the crust afterwards do they put it back?
That's Diavik diamond mine you fucking retards, not a lithium mine.
t. Mining engineer
hydrogen is the future
>Dig it up
>Take out Lithium
>Put it back
Easy as.
b-b-but look at all the zeros!!!?!?!?!?!1/1/1/??!?!? 50000000!!!!
Bikes
>Bikes
Calm it on the söy intake. You might start making more sense.
Hydrogen is a scam element we should just forget about in shame
It's a troll thread mate, most likely by a bot, it's been done at least a dozen times by now.
>hydrogen is the future
How many miles away do you live from the nearest hydrogen station? Answer the question and round to the nearest mile.
Not my problem.
Somehow I doubt we've displaced 1 trillion pounds for just EV car batteries.
yes, it is a scam, let's just forget it
the real problem is that no EV company is following on their recycling batteries promises
It doesn't matter, they will get outcompeted by whoever does.
Retrieving and refining the required materials out of the ground will always be harder than out of dead batteries.
mining and processing of raw materials for rechargeable batteries accounts for more than 5% of all carbon emissions on the planet. nancy pelosi and the rest of the "green economy" promoters never told you about that part.
all that fiberglass is made with thermoset polymers. Impossible to recycle.
>Big number scary
I wonder how this dude would react if he found out just how much oil we burn every year. All of that turned into nothing.
That has nothing to do with the post you're responding to, and fossil fuels are responsible for 100% of carbon emissions so your point is moot.
what a pointless waste, green energy shit is all fake and gay
Ops pic is misleading. Most lithium comes from subsurface brines.
>this same exact thread again
Kys faggot
>370171951
>politics
And what am I doing as an alternative to that? Nickel Cadmium or lead acid batteries? Pumping oil or digging coal and burning it which spreads that pollution into the air? It's a trade off.