Afternoon all, thread for discussing Peak Oil and what it means for industrial civilisation.
What is Peak Oil? >It is the maximum oil produced so far and marks the beginning of net energy descent when no further profitable production is possible.
What's the Net Energy Principle? >Energy “resources” must produce more energy than they consume, otherwise they are called “sinks.” (Jay Hanson, Dieoff.com)
What's the Seneca Effect? >Growth is gradual but ruin is rapid -- based on the Roman philosopher Seneca, energy production along with civilisations follow their own Seneca Effect and rapidly simplify. (Ugo Bardi, the Seneca Effect)
What is Collapse? >The abrupt simplification of society. (Joseph Tainter, the Collapse of Complex Societies)
What about Alternatives? >They must provide higher Energy Return On Energy Investment (EROEI) to support a civilisation, at least 4:1 (energyskeptic.com).
Back in early 90s I learned in school that oil will run out in 2020. What imaginary date is set now? 2040? 2050?
Blake Smith
In 2011 I calculated 45 years at current known deposits and no increase in usage. So that would be 2056? Idk I did it for a geology class and professor seemed to agree with the sources I found.
Brandon Turner
There is no such thing as peak oil you fucking Jew. There are also no such things as "fossil" fuels. It's all part of the plan.
Robert Walker
Oil is abiotic, we will never run out. Don't fall for the peak oil jew
Reminder that climate change was invented to avert peak oil collapse and create alternatives to nuclear power. Thereby encouraging peace and maintaining world order. Which is why its mainly pushed by the UN.
Tyler Roberts
Graphs are made from manipulated statistics, don't fall for the mathematical jew
Logan Watson
lol I still remember all the drifters crying about peak oil in 2008 and trying to sell gold and seeds to retarded boomers
Yeah that checks out. Enjoy the current civilization lads, when we‘re REALLY OLD it will go back to middle ages
Logan Miller
as long as there is demand for oil oil is going to be produced oil reserves are practically infinite at the right price and with the right extraction technology
Jayden Evans
Even without the graph I can make the argument based on other abiotic resources that are consumed faster than they regenerate. Mexico City sinking from the water overuse. Takes time to regenerate, maybe hundreds of millions of years if fossil derived, maybe sooner... But not fast enough to continue Business As Usual
Logan Reyes
They're finite and it takes energy to make energy, if you spend more energy than you get out from burning the fuel -- you will never reach the bottom of it. Half of all available energy resources are an energy sink, the peak marks the flip to negative sum.
Chase Turner
>oil production fell along with consumption due to the lockdowns
no shit is this a slide thread because it's so retarded no way it's a real thread I am done responding
It will never run out, the remaining resources after a peak become increasingly prohibitive and cost ineffective to extract.
Eli Walker
Most of the world population growth is in Africa and Asia They don't need oil in Africa, they have gutters in Asia
The world is always generating oil Peak oil is a scam meme
Kevin Gutierrez
Depends on what you mean by "Business As Usual"; if you mean the constant ever-growing, ever-expanding economy so numbers always go up and rich get richer off the goyim then yes there will always be bottlenecks. However, Resource scarcity is largely a Fake and Gay larp organized by the powers of this world to keep the cattle on their hamster wheels.
Even if it peaks higher again, if at all possible, doesn't change the inevitable that it cannot be sustained long term because rate of consumption outstrips the ability of the resource to recover
Adam Thompson
Oil did peak in 2008. What happened is that fracking started almost immediately after and plugged the gap for awhile.
Connor Rogers
technology changes and makes oil resources previously locked in the ground profitable to exploit peak oil drifters make childish projections to scare boomers to buy silver and boner pills kys
Wow another astroturfed gay general thread. Can’t wait, all your other ones were so good
Colton Young
More importantly, WHY because it's All Part of The Plan™ right? Or maybe, just maybe it is more physically costly to do it. Nah, you must be right, stupid me. Oh look an oil field just flew over my house.
So what do you suggest as an alternative? Don't say electric vehicles that require an even more finite resource with even greater environmentally impactive mining/refining process
Julian Flores
I remember when all this was discussed in 2005 none of it came true why do you think this time it's different
Daniel Smith
lol Britain has trillions of cubic meters of natural gas and oil locked up in shale formations that might be profitable to extract soon but there is a moratorium on fracking
Thanks for the bump, enjoy your Will Smith threads. More important than life/death of industrial civilisation
Gavin Thompson
That's low EROEI snd will not produce the enormous growth boomers enjoyed and made possible for them to live detached from reality of limits to growth. That's literally scraping the bottom of the barrel
