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>General Mordvichev confirmed alive, 2nd Russian general to debunk his death >USA abandons large scale objectives (troops in Ukraine, regime change) and claims "main goal" of Biden is expressing moral outrage >Torture videos geolocated to Ukraine-controlled territories, confirmed real >"Anonymous" makes fake Russian order to cast doubts on torture videos, uses signature from Google Images >Azov writes sad poem, ends it with: "I have to cope with it" >Azov HQ in Mariupol was stormed: files.catbox.moe/y94e43.mp4 >Night hunters consisting of Ka-52 and Mi-28n helicopters have destroyed 32 tanks, 27 armored vehicles, 43 other military targets in 4 days >Russian troops advance towards New York, Ukraine >Ukrainian war crimes: files.catbox.moe/fopeen.mp4 >Russian aviation hit 325 military assets in the past 4 days >Referendum to join Russia will be held in LPR, almost fully liberated >Ukrainian Congress endorses Muslim invasion of Christian regions by Azerbaijan >Chernigov has been cut off by Russian troops - Governor >The creation of Kherson Republic is underway - Crimean representative >Russia MoD: 1,351 Russian soldiers killed, 3,825 wounded as of March 25th >Russia MoD: Ukrainian loses at 14,000 killed, 16,000 wounded >Russia to create Military-Civilian Administrations in liberated territories >Russia: the best opportunity for an independent Ukraine has expired >Strikes on AFU barracks in Nikolaev killed 294 soldiers
>Russia reducing military activity in the north, troops moving to the south. Buildup near Kursk. >Further negotiations cancelled. >Ukraine's peace deal will be relayed to Putin. >Ukraine offers to declare neutrality, not develop WMDs. >Ukraine desires security garuntees, Luhansk, Donetsk and Crimea are excluded from it's security garuntee request.
>Hohol media already seething about the troops heading south.
>Russia pulling out of Kiev and Chernihiv >Now saying they won't oppose Ukraine joining the EU >Economy ruined for partial control of Donbass region This is a fucking shitshow
Camden Nguyen
>Wonder why so many news agencies (including my national one) are reporting that he spoke of a diminishing of military presence. Welcome to propaganda 101.
Jonathan Carter
Funny sing shills thinking they won.
when Russia basically achieved exactly what it wanted.
▶Second /chug/ user's translations! >Reporter Poddubny reacting to torture videos. files.catbox.moe/atloig.mp4 >An interview with a dagi sergeant that had half his face shorn off in an RPG explosion. This is very much a provincial TV prop piece, but I think it's interesting anyway. files.catbox.moe/anqwb6.mp4 >Militia member with a PPS-43, he reflects on how symbolic it is, calls it going on a walk with grandpa. files.catbox.moe/lfj6g5.mp4
>Russian special forces captured two Ukrainian servicemen who participated in the torture of Russian soldiers, these are Sergey "Chili" Velichko and Konstantin Nemichev from the fan group of the local football club "Metalist" - State Duma deputy Vladimir Shamanov
All the utroonians and AZOG will be back in those areas and rearmed and supplied by NATO, its an incredibly stupid move and shows Putin is just another compromised puppet if he accepts this deal, that means a massive blow to those areas they will retreat from.
Matthew Evans
HAMMERTIME
Jack Sanchez
Indeed. Super shill raid today. But yeah what the British guy posted is right.
Did the knee capping video make it to state tee vee? You can tell a state's policy from the content they shill in their media/propaganda. Do you feel like your state is inflaming the masses or not?
I wonder what the next shill line is going to be about. Maybe how Russias are liers for not keeping to this Ukrainian proposal.
Andrew Hughes
What we're witnessing is the Empire of Lies providing the fake information into the public consciousness for the teeming masses of the Empire of Lies to live under the delusion that the war ended in a way that it, in reality, did not - in an effort to avoid mass suicides on Reddit and losing faith in the capability of the Empire of Lies.
But ultimately - what matters is that the Empire lost Afghanistan, is losing Ukraine, and will lose Taiwan.
Hohols are making victory laps, is it really over? Should we defect to uhg to not look stupid?
Asher Baker
He should have been in command after all.
The operation was too optimistic, too soft on ukies, too indecisive. Half assed war is never a good idea, Russia should have thrown everything it had in the first week, go balls deep and pick up the scraps later.
Attention, reminder we are currently in SHILLCON 1, I repeat SHILLCON 1. Remember, to thank the baker for keeping bread fresh, and ignore the bait
Wyatt Edwards
*KEKED
Blake Morgan
Digits command, I follow.
James Williams
nah the west misinterpreted an official russian MoD statement that's all it is
Hunter Jenkins
broken
Asher Gray
Way too many shills right now, not comfy
Hudson Miller
I’m talking hypothetically: Russia achieved virtually nothing in short-term. If they seized Eastern Ukraine while obliterating Ukrainian Army, that would be a victory. Anything else is practically a defeat on the battlefield. If Putin pulls out, he’s fucking done for. Every group in Russian society will hate him: liberals for starting the war, nationalists for losing the war, and ordinary people for making their lives harder for basically nothing.
>russia is moving even more armored forces, that was used on day one, from Kursk >forces from mariupol are moving to the donbass region >russia is pulling out, we won /k/sisters
Why you laughin you dirty Polakkenschwein, soon its Spargeltime, are you ready for Spargelstechen or cleaning some dirty toilets?
Andrew Smith
DUGIN HAS SPOKEN
>If this is true, this is the end of the Russian Federation. It's scandalous.
DUGIN HAS SPOKEN
>If this is true, this is the end of the Russian Federation. It's scandalous.
DUGIN HAS SPOKEN
>If this is true, this is the end of the Russian Federation. It's scandalous.
DUGIN HAS SPOKEN
>If this is true, this is the end of the Russian Federation. It's scandalous.
DUGIN HAS SPOKEN
>If this is true, this is the end of the Russian Federation. It's scandalous.
DUGIN HAS SPOKEN
>If this is true, this is the end of the Russian Federation. It's scandalous.
DUGIN HAS SPOKEN
>If this is true, this is the end of the Russian Federation. It's scandalous.
Robert Thompson
no matter how bad a day a /chug/ has, it won't be as bad as those two mutants who now have to explain why they tortured men to a group of interested, peaceful and patient special forces operators.
>russia reaches its goals >we never wanted Kyiv >we never wanted regime change >we never wanted to block EU acces >we never wanted denazification >we never wanted demilitarization vatniksisters not like this... It's over
>watch medinsky talking about the negotiations >straight up says that there won't be any 15-year negotiations on the status of crimea >lists ukrainian proposals >says there's no agreement yet >no mention of russia pulling out from quief
promise me you guys WONT pull out and bleed the hohol dried.
Daniel Bennett
>We took upon ourselves the obligation not to storm these cities, that is, to stop at the lines where we are today. The main thing we will do is to complete the defeat of the encircled group in the Donbass. >I do not rule out that after the complete liberation of the LDNR, we will continue to clean up the southern regions - [these are] Zaporozhye, Kharkov and Odessa regions. t.me/rt_russian/102785 Wait, hoholsisters, i thought we won...
Brayden Young
this is negotiation thing, dont want to spook Ukies representative in between >at least before hohol shoot one of their own
Eli Flores
I guess we will see in the coming decades if an entire civilization built solely on top of lies is capable of sustaining itself and growing. The entire U.S/EU/NATO Empire, aka the Empire of Lies, is built on nothing but lies, literally only lies. My hope and guess is that it won't survive, but if it does, I guess that seals the deal for any hope of a morally righteous power, be it Western European/American, Russian, or Chinese, to be part of the future of humanity ever again.
Brandon Davis
If they don't get executed there might be actual riots lol
Nicholas James
From Strelkov: Stop panicking. 1. There is virtually no offensive near Kiev, Chernigov and Sumy. They hoped that they would take it with a light cavalry attack, as in 2014. But it didn't work out. 2. The grouping needs to be rotated and increased. These require additional reserves. 3. The 2014 plan didn't work. Those territories that are already occupied are lucky. Now we have to fight via all methods. And this means combined arms combat and leveling with the ground, otherwise nothing. Attacking in all directions is unrealistic. 4. The first step is to finish off the grouping in the Donbass. Under it, it is realistic to collect another 15-20 thousand reserves and things will go more fun. Then Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and Odessa. It will not be possible to increase the grouping in all directions. 5. You can't get through to Nikolaev from the south. There is the Southern Bug River Delta, there is no room for maneuver. You need to approach from Zaporozhye and Krivoy Rog. Otherwise, the distances there are such that the enemy keeps under fire control a narrow supply line from Kherson itself. 6. Near Nikolaev and Odessa, a powerful enemy grouping is sitting, the second largest after the Donbass. Plus, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the territorial defense from Kherson departed there. As a result, the light units of the landing force brush aside the second largest grouping there. And they successfully brush aside, no one can poke their nose at Kherson. 7. The grouping near Nikolaev is aggressive, it is impossible to leave it in the rear. There are no resources to simultaneously finish off the grouping in the Donbass and in Nikolaev, and even go to Kyiv. Therefore, we focus on the south direction.
This is not "giving up", this is a revision of doctrine. Nobody is going anywhere.
Who gives a shit about a buildup in Kursk. That's not near Kiev. Kiev needs to fall even if Russia doesn't intend to occupy it. Fuck Ukraine. This pisses me off.
Jeremiah Jenkins
>when Russia basically achieved exactly what it wanted If exposing their army and crashing their economy is what they wanted, they certainly achieved it. If they stop at Donbas, Putin breaks his promise to denazify Ukraine. It will be Minsk 3.0 but on a bigger scale. Zelensky even banned all pro-Russia political parties.
>pretty sure Russia just won big time How did they win big time? The only things they actually achiebe was to take Kherson and Mariupol + cause some damage to the Ukrainian army. Is that what you call winning big time? Especially if their original goal was total demilitarization?
John Anderson
why would eu want to let another shithole country to join it?
Hunter White
they only think in HOI4 mindset, dont bother
Mason Stewart
Into the bunkers, we don't know when they commence shill of mass destruction
Tyler Lopez
If Russia agrees to these terms they deserve to be cucked.
Anthony Cook
>He named the UK, China, the US, Turkey, France, Canada, Italy, Poland and Israel >China out of nowhere HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA No wonder the Anglo fuck deleted his post, the more I read into this treaty, the more hilarious it gets. I already knew no matter how much Israel and Turkey hate Russia, they won't ever go up against them, and Canada is an eternal pussy, But ZELENSKY also asking CHINA.
>they should do a Chechen war and Grozny the area that they want to keep do you have any idea how fucking expensive Chechna was? Not just about the dead people, but also about the billions of gibs that Chechens get every single year till this day to rebuild
Isaiah Evans
they moved the goalpost from dividing russia into several states to "you only reached the exact goals you announced from the beginning so you lost"
Jack Myers
MUSLIM COPE
Aiden Edwards
>Member of the Ukrainian delegation Arakhamiya: >We recognize the international borders of Ukraine — only those borders that were as of 1991. There are no compromises, no red lines. We only sign such wording. Russia, of course, may have its own version of these events.
/chug/ was my life for the last month. Logging on, seeing the latest Zunny, posting about gains, debunking the shills etc. What I am supposed to do now?
>picture of some random parking lot this is the copium we needed vatniksisters. We will now take kyiv in 2 more weeks
Xavier Baker
Oh you mean the shit from this morning? Didn't Shoigu immediately add that Russia still pursues its goals of full denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine?
Joseph Miller
>we never wanted denazification >we never wanted demilitarization This is what Russia is doing you retard.
Chase Mitchell
So far Ukraine needs guarantors for their neutrality. Their proposed list is completely unacceptable (US, Canada, fucking Turkey). However, China technically remained neutral throughout the conflict, and Russia will totally allow them in Ukraine, right into the NATO backyard. US handlers of Zelensky, however, will strongly oppose this.
Kiev calls on world to ban ‘Z’ >“I call on all states to criminalize the use of the ‘Z’ symbol as a way to publicly support Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine,” Foreign Affairs Dmitry Kuleba wrote on Twitter on Tuesday.
>Putin just wants the world to think they are willing to listen to zelensky's demands He was listening a month ago when they made the same damn demands. Ukraine isn't getting the message, time to ratchet up another notch, not withdraw
Ethan Wood
Not surprising, those troops are being stabbed in the back.
James Roberts
>Strelkov cannot into deep war.
Jace Perez
Shills are purposefully conflating Ukrainian proposals with agreements. Fog will clear with the next round of Kalibrs.
Charles Baker
I dont know who to trust there are to manny shills adding irrelevant information
They won on twitter Ivan. They don't need anything more than that.
Mason Foster
You didn't address those numbers faggot, unless you were the person who said "Oh yeah I made that post. I was wrong, I should've verified" lol Cope: >David Arakhamia, Medinsky’s opposite number in the Ukrainian delegation, said Kiev had sought a security guarantee from a number of nations that would work not unlike NATO’s mutual self-defense commitment. >He named the UK, China, the US, Turkey, France, Canada, Italy, Poland and Israel as possible guarantors, and claimed some of them have given their preliminary agreement to serve in that capacity.
Hudson Davis
>you only reached the exact goals you announced from the beginning They announced DENAZIFICATION and DEMILITARIZATION but achieved NEITHER.
Brandon Ortiz
so basically russia lost. I lost all respect for the russian military. Can't even take some fucking open wheat field shithole. Why did the west fear russia for 50 years? This country has not a single mountain, the russian army could have wiped it off the map. But putin opticscucked, the west delivered a billion javelins and now the only hope for russia is to meatgrinder it with infantry. And putin is not willing. He fucking hesistated like a beta bitch and cried about denazification. Should have just went in with the whole army, scared the fuck out of any ukrainian daring to fight and it would have been over in a week. sad day for slavs, the whole world just lost all the respect they had. its fucking over
Nathan Morgan
There is no universe where russia actually agrees to it, every russian knows it'd be the end.
Andrew Ross
ITS ALL OVER GO HOME SHILLS LEAVE BOARD ALONE
Xavier Watson
Yes but they are retard
Jaxon Cooper
Zoomers getting deleted wtf...
Dominic Gray
they destroyed their prestige as a military power on the world stage and made themselves an international pariah for what? some land they already controlled lol. and they might get more gas reserves... which they can't sell to anyone besides chinks and pajeets buying it pennies on the dollar
This war will end only when ukraine is completely dismantled.
Parker Torres
Fuck is that pic supposed to mean?
Jayden Allen
They got this, the fuel situation is so critical for holhols they are on the clock
Lucas Phillips
Fukin ukrops can't they at least stay consistent.
Noah Perry
No one really cares about official goals. If it's not a half of ukraine minimum - it's a loss and shame. If army wont come back with that minimum - putin will really need his keys from a bunker.
Joseph Cox
It's not a move - this is literally Russia's official position.
>We never wanted Kiev >We never wanted Chernihiv >We never wanted Ukraine to not join the EU >We never wanted Ukraine to not join NATO user, stop.
Samuel Ward
Someone post the theorem of Tara or whatever it's called. It has been working like clockwork so far.
this is literally what Hitler felt Putin stabbed us all in the back
Brody Turner
I fucking hope so.
Oliver Moore
Dude....he named fucking CHINA. Those guys were already running major real estate grabs thru usury from Hohol pigs. Now ZELENSKY is offering military occupation of Gaykraine to CHINA. China now may get to directly act as a buffer state between NATO and Russia in europe
Landon Watson
>60k main force now completely surrounded That's the point.
Gavin Wilson
nobody said that they pull out of queef, user
Nathaniel Evans
Would be fun if China said yes though and then proceeded to help the Russians finish the job.
western sanctions I don't want to deal with your dumb people again, mountain westoid jew
Ryan Turner
Cuckzi
Joseph Martinez
They've flip flopped several times between being willing to give them up and hardline unwilling to consider giving them up.
Bentley Green
get the fuck out of my country then russian cocksucker. Go to Moscow if you love it so much
Dominic Lopez
Putin is a cuck
Hunter Jones
First time?
William Thomas
they denazified the shit out of AZOV
Oliver Thomas
>v sostave Rossii
Elijah Russell
concentrating forces =/= withdrawing They are simply organizing for movements in the south eastern area of ukraine, let the ukrainians split their forces, it surely worked out for the austrians during the napoleonic wars
eh, so so. life is good, could be better if the Chink gave back these island that the SRV gave them in the 60s
Ayden Campbell
>Mariupol based and winpilled also Mariupol is not taken, only destroyed, civillians killed in thousand, but military is still holding the city Source: DPR speznas
Crimea was never Ukrainian and will never be Ukrainian.
Chase White
Here:
Jason Bell
For what? What was the purpose of this war? You either win, or you lose. If things stay the way they are, Russia lost. Whatever damage they inflicted on Ukrainian Army will be repaired.
I don't believe this shit simply because it's outright suicide for Putin. He won't be able to sell this off as a ''victory'' even to his hardcore supporters. They didn't achieve the minimum of war goals. And I'm not talking about Kiev. Kiev is fucking irrelevant.
Jason Diaz
Oh fuck?!! Russia let hohols back on the internet?
Luis Barnes
So can someone explain to me how are the Russian losses substantiated by western "experts" the numbers seem way too much. On the other hand they say Ukie losses are way less it, makes very little sense.
Yeah. All going to plan. Grapes are probably sour in Kiev anyway lol. It's over.
Ayden Robinson
keep crying shill faggot
Adrian Anderson
We wuzn't winning?
Ryder Torres
Doesn't matter. The Azov will leave with a negotiated dick sucking from Russian conscripts at this rate.
Gabriel Rivera
>How about fucking the Ukranian military and forcing them to be a buffer state to NATO? Ukraine is not offering true neutrality >Stop bombing and recognize the dombass region a crimea. Ukraine is not offering that >and provide water supply to crimea. Ukraine is not offering to maintain the water supply afaict either - they could dam it right back up again
As for securing the DNR/LNR, existing territorial gains don't fully cover their claims yet either. The demilitarization is not yet complete. The denazification is not yet complete.
Literally no goals have been achived yet, and the proposed framework does not help achieve them either.
