Why does socialism never work?

it was invented by a German

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Humans are too apathetic to share power as a collective, which makes them easily exploited until they rarrww cut off heads and put a new exploiter in power.

Socialism would work in small communities at best. Capitalism is still shit tho. Humans in general are shit, I mean, sure there is the odd person doing good, but there's countless people just blindly living without recognizing the immense suffering they cause to other humans or the planet by buying/eating junk imported from another place, or by driving to their shit inefficient job. Really, maybe 10% of society is useful and needed, the rest are there to make other people more powerful.

Because it's centralized and Marx isn't consistent with himself or his description of the world he lived in. Plus the whole private property thing really just sounds like feudalism to me. Not saying what we have now is desirable the closest thing to my ideal is Distributism.

this. and they hate you and want you to die. when someone says they want to "strive to help the working people" ignore them and walk away. we've seen this movie too many times

Ignoring the commens about human nature and the like, the real problem is that a planned economy never works. An economy is highly complex, dynamic and constantly changing. Even if it were hypothetically possible to gather all information about an economy, every single individual factor, even the ones that seem irrelevant at first glance, by the time you've compiled that data it's already outdated. As such you always end up producing too much or too little of any given thing.

In fact, the only one who would be able to compile all that information AND keep it up to date AND act upon that information in a more efficient manner than a free market would have to be someone so wise and so omniscient and so omnipotent that we'd be well within our rights to call that individual God. Yet communism has abolished God.

>Inb4 "Jesus was a communist"
Jesus could feed a crowd of 5,000 so He was no communist.

Does anyone else realize that we live in a society built on free shit? We had slavery, then when that was no no we just shifted to neo colonial - have kids in bangladesh make things society. Now that it's failing everyone is freaking out.

This is not only true with labour, but also resources, the economy acts like the existing reserves of oil or lithium or whatever is infinite, and when it runs out, we will be fucked. We could have used these freebies to set up surplus building, productive food forests, solar oriented self sustaining cities, efficient systems for education, transportation etc.

Better luck next time, maybe 3 million years you can be a drop of oil in the Bezos of the futures yacht.

you have to admit socialism is appealing on paper, however nobody wants to discuss this

Like sin it sounds a lot better than it is

kek joke.

I think it's hard to separate human nature. I can acknowledge that there is fuck all fair about life, society, etc. It's not fair in the small office of ten people, not fair in the big city of 5 million. Someone is always doing more than the next but getting equal or less in return. I do think a certain number of people will always be working harder for the sake of the rest, my question is, at what point is that no longer acceptable?

For me, seeing that Putin has several yachts in the hundreds of millions, we have CEO's in a space race, and yet most millenials can't afford a house, food is skyrocketing, governments are completely captured by corporate interests... where do we draw the line?

True, and there are two reasons why everyone will want to keep tryin it over and over:
1. The lie sounds so nice, some bleeding hearts will keep trying to find ways to make it work (hence "real communism has never been tried")
2. "Eat the rich" means that the rich die and everyone else lives like a king for a day and a rat for a year. Which is a net improvement if you've lived like a rat your entire life anyway.

national socialism is like nature not shitty capitalism.