Help me win this debate against my friend

He (and his girlfriend) says that Ukraine are victims of Russian imperialism, and that Russia has no business "invading". Okay? First of all this is russia's land to begin with, and Putin isn't even trying to conquer, he's trying to remove all the nazi's (like the asmov battalion).

he says American's sanctions are going to cripple the russian economy, then I told him that russia's economy is almost completely unaffected by the sanctions, and as ben shapiro said, Russia's sanctions are actually making the united states crack.

They're the same empty brained NPC that was offended by the russia military recruitment ads and though the pro-lgbt american military ads were "a step on the right direction". Okay? you know how fricked we are if america troops were ever in a conflict with russian troops? Good luck emily with two moms lol russian dudes literally box trees for fun. Oh and of course he proudly showed pictures of himself getting vaccinated because the TV told him to.

He just don't get it. How can I make them see the truth? Russia is f\*cking based, and putin is not the monster the democrats have brainwashed the liberals into thinking he is.

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>Russia's land to begin with
Try learning a little bit about European history before you debate about it. Regardless of what side you want to win, Ukraine existed for 600-800 years before anything resembling Russia was formed.

>How can I make them see the truth?
Why would you want them to see the truth?
What do you gain from painstakingly making retards see the light?
As it stands right now, you have an advantage in terms of information. You know more than they do, and even after telling them that you are more educated on the subject, they remain ignorant.

If someone is dumber than you, it's not your obligation to educate them. If anything, it's your right to scam willing victims.

Tell them to buy Tesla-stocks and other tech-junk while you stack fertilizer. Enjoy their faces when they one day realize that they got jewed.

>Ukraine existed for 600-800 years before anything resembling Russia was formed.
what the fuck

>Help me win
>Russia is f\*cking based
You have to be 18 to post here

I'm 20, I just don't swear online for moral reasons

Dont know about that one lad. It was the Rus who were centred around Kiev and this was before German and Polish occupation of the region so the split between Ukrianans and Russians didnt exist at all.

>Ukraine existed for 600-800 years before anything resembling Russia was formed.
achmed in bongistan confirmed retard

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Slavs settled in Kyiv sometime between 400-500.
Rus state was 800-900, and Moscow or any sizable city wasnt established until 1000-1100s.

Cлaвa Укpaїнi.

>, it's your right to scam willing victims.

Is there a way to scam just him so his girlfriend leaves him for me because I will have more resources? I've had a crush on her since 2015

Example #8979873173123 of conservatives being retarded. Nazism is the only right-wing movement worth supporting.

Hard to win a debate when your stance is factually wrong.

Ukraine was bombing the shit out of it's own country for several years. They have had a "small" civil war ongoing. Nobody in the west even knew. Because nobody gives a shit about foreign countries until the news tells them to give a shit.

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There is a distinction between groups. Ukraine is mostly Slavs, Teutons, and Illyrians.

Russia was mostly Slavs, Baltic peoples, and various groups from the far east including mongols.

People cannot think critically about various situations because the media is constantly telling them what they should
>think
>consume
>drive
>wear
>worship
>believe

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Why bother arguing with your buddy? If he wasn't willing to consider all the possible causes and outcomes of the "pandemic" he is beyond help.

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The issue in Ukraine is no different than two street gangs fighting over turf to sell drugs. USA vs Russia, and the drugs are oil, gas, and metals. Anyone saying this is a humanitarian issue is ignorant.

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And the nation of Ukraine is only 32 years old. It's a millennial.

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I argue with him to try to impress his girlfriend who I've had a crush on since 2015.

I'm hoping that if I beat him in enough debates his girl will see I'm smart and leave him for me.

>Russia's land to begin with
No it isn't. The Russian empire absorbed it hundreds of years ago and tried to wipe out Ukrainian national identity, language and culture for decades. They failed. The Soviets brutally oppressed Ukrainians, starved their people, and threw thousands into camps and gulags because they had to meet quotas for annihilating political dissidents, and "wealthy peasants" were a class they had slated for liquidation.
>Putin isn't even trying
He sent his best men into the south and east and the best he could do was a bloody stalemate. He failed utterly to seize any major objectives and has lost tens of thousands of men and thousands of vehicles and tanks, many of which he cannot replace considering the Russian vehicle reserves are poorly maintained and left exposed to the elements for decades with no maintenance.
>Hes trying to remove all the nazis
He invented the nazi threat. It's fictitious. He wants to capture the fanaticism of the Great Patriotic War to try and raise moral among his army frightened, demoralized, and poorly trained and equipped teenagers.
>russia's economy is almost completely unaffected by sanctions
Russia can't even repair the or build new tanks because many of the electronics are made overseas. They are not the Soviet Union and have nowhere near the industrial capacity needed to be truly independent of the global economy, which they have been integrating with for 30 years.
>and as ben shapiro said
You are a retard for even thinking that spic manlet knows a fucking thing. Frankly I stopped reading after you said this because it's open acknowledgement that you're stupid as shit if you listen to shapiro.

>Slavs settled in Kyiv sometime between 400-500.
Are you sure their Slavic state has been called Ukraine rather than Khazarian Khaganate?

>Rus state was 800-900
Right, now open the most important source of history of medieval Rus' - The Primary Chronicle. You will find out the earliest Rus' cities mentioned are Ladoga, Novgorod, Izborsk, Beloozero, Rostov, Murom and Polotsk - all are located in modern Russia, except for Belarusian Polotsk.

Unless it was an actual nation, with borders, it's irrelevant, especially since Ukrainians and Russians are the same blood.