so what are the bets, will Ukraine keep any sea access after this war?
Sea access
Gavin Perez
Brandon Edwards
What difference does it make when NATO members already have lots of access to the Black Sea?
Isaiah Phillips
They're struggling in Kharkiv and Mariupol, there are 0 chances they'll occupy Odesa.
John Reyes
it makes a difference to what the west-ukranian economy will be in the future
Ayden Jenkins
depends, if the ukranians resists yeah, if the ukranian army collapses and they surround Odessa it will be over at some point
Brayden Campbell
They don’t need to take Odessa, just cut it off and wait
Owen Stewart
What economy? Ukraine exports their gold and in exchange for EU nuclear waste.
Jason Thomas
if things go according to plan western ukraine will be russian. but it would've been nice to capture Odessa I guess.
Ryder Davis
the right question is: will Russia keep sea access after this war
Jacob Brown
Why you're shitty poll with fake news sources would make any difference? You're not even Spanish. KYS pls.
Ryder Russell
fertilizer and grain and steel and some other natural resources and materials? or is that all in the eastern part?
i guess if you export shit it is much better if you have access to the sea rather than having to drive it somewhere and ship it from there
Carson Flores
The right question is which one of 20 Russias will have access to which sea
Samuel Harris
you mean eastern ukraine? the western part seems like it would be too hard to occupy even if they could conquer it
Nicholas Ramirez
Levi Howard
>fertilizer and grain and steel
Isn't that all East of the river? Mariupol had a steel plant.
Oliver Perry
should have put that option, forgot, sorry
Daniel Howard
i guess you are right, the western part may be bad economically except for kiev
Josiah Martin
I don't know what any of this says but there is more in the east.
Gabriel Powell
eastern yeah, sorry
Noah Lewis
>western part seems like it would be too hard to occupy
The Carpathian mountains seem like a nice defense.
Adrian Walker
the right question should be will Ukraine exist after the war?
Evan Bell
There won't be an independent Ukraine after this war.
David Cruz
There wasn't one before the war.
Ryder Harris
i mean from the local population annoying them an sabotaging stuff, i guess there's more ukranian speakers in the west, but i read somewhere 70% of people in ukraine have their phones set to russian, so even that may be a larp, not sure
Ryder Bailey
i assume the western part would be too costly to occupy because of the population rising up, so they won't even try even if they could, and it doesn't look like they even could at this point