People think that corruption is a simple and clear thing. That's because they're retards who never thought about what corruption is. Corruption is actually a vague and deep thing and it's been debated by philosophers since ancient times what it actually is. There is no difference between power and corruption. Define corruption. The standard definition is that a private entity influences government to change politics to its advantage at the expense of public interest. But it's bullshit. Because that's literally how all politics works. A good example is the banana massacre.
>banana plantation workers in Colombia go on strike
>United Fruit is one of the world's biggest producers of bananas, which means they have a lot of money
>they use this money to influence the US government to threaten the Colombian government with invasion unless they take action against the strikers
>Colombia sends the army to massacre thousands of strikers
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People think that corruption is a simple and clear thing...
>something is a vague and deep thing which has been debated blabla
>world is a complicated place and blablabla
Yawn. Corruption is a simple thing.
There are laws. They are written in a book. They say what a man cannot do.
There are actions which we only allow some people to do. This is called authority. There are laws how to use authority.
Corruption is when you break these laws.
Anything else you want explained?
Another example is Bananagate. The Italian government wanted to ban import of United Fruit bananas in Italy. United Fruit "bribed" politicians to not implement such a ban.
interesting. but why are all these picrels unfunny?
>but but but... it's way more complex than people simply being shitbags since the dawn of time!!!11
As I just explained, the laws were made in the first place by business interest. When a business interest is the underdog it's called corruption, when it's the dominant power it's called law.
It's evil you genius
Define evil. Is everyone with power, evil?
Another example
>USA subsidized corn
>that made US corn very cheap
>that corn was shipped to Haiti
>all the people bought that corn instead of domestic corn
>the Haitian government wanted to implement an import tax to protect their farms
>America invaded and put a puppet leader who did not implement such a tax
>all Haitian farms were ruined
An action that punishes innocent people.
No.
Now you are just mixing two things.
Creating laws is one thing. People try to create laws that benefit them.
Doing against the law is another thing.
Evil is a concept from a religion like Christinity. Christianity considered lots of things evil such as killing, stealing, believing in different religion, etc. Bible listed evil things. Priests of local communities said what was evill.
Evil as a concept doesnt exist in the modern society. We only have laws written in a book.
What's your point? I just explained how Italy wanted to have laws preventing import of United Fruit bananas, but instead they did not implement such laws, because of money from United Fruit going into the government. Laws need police, military etc to be enforced. Enforcing laws costs money. Money doesn't pop out of nowhere, it comes from business.
What do you mean whats my point? In this context that sentence makes no sense at all
There are good actions that invariably hurt innocent people too. Is Evil based on intentions?
I know. Christainity thrived and expanded by employing what they considered evil as tools for good
Also you are confusing two different things.
Money is a debt that society prints.
Another thing is that humans consider some actions and objects valuable. E.g. banana is considered valuable, and so is the act of making bananas.
There are plenty of societies who dont use money, but who still manage to coordiate valuable actions and objects.
The only argument you presented is
>breaking law is corruption
I presented the counterargument that laws are created by business interest. To which you just said the same thing as before, breaking the law is bad.
Corruption is to a political system as bugs are to a software system.
>There are plenty of societies who dont use money, but who still manage to coordiate valuable actions and objects.
The coordination requires information, and the information can always be thought of as money, even if it isn't coins or dollar bills.
Can you give some examples?
Yes
You are confusing two things.
Intent is this dream in your head that you want to happen. You make your software trying to achieve that dream.
Software is another thing. It is a system that follows instructions you gave it.
Maybe, or maybe viruses, hacking etc are a better analogy. Bugs are just incompetence, unless they are exploited by someone I don't really see the analogy.
No coordination doesnt require information.
And no information cannot be thought of as a money.
Money has three properties:
1. It stores value (Information cannot store value)
2. You can exchange it (True for information)
3. You can measure values with it (False for information)