I think the biggest revelation coming out of this in the coming years will be a MAJOR shift towards unmanned systems by most countries (especially small/poor ones) across the globe, they are just too good and modern AA seems ineffective to properly face then.
Imagine a world where nearly every country can have a competent air force simply because these systems are so cheap.
This is a pretty incredible thing to see, I think Drone technology will go down in history the same as the Machinegun in terms of how it changes warfare.
People don't realize that every antiquated Russia vehicle or plane that you blow up, Russia will replace it with 10 brand new models... They're just using expendable people and equipment...
Parker Robinson
Except their tank factory is off line because of sanctions. No parts.
This is a meme, Russia has been sending its “good stuff”, not tons of soviet era chaff. And from confirmed kill documentation they are also losing a lot of new platforms.
The idea that Russia is actually just pretending to be retarded is really silly and counterproductive for their entire invasion plan since apparently giving Ukraine more time to rearm and resupply is “part of the plan” lol
What confuses Any Forums is not that people “overestimated” Russia, I think they were correctly seen as a major power, but that Ukraine has been severely underestimated, as have many systems which have turned the tide of war, such as these TB-2 drones and others that were dismissed as “junk” previously.
Jordan Baker
I'm WFH and pretty much all I do all day is watch ground zero feeds. There is no evidence of what you're shilling here. Russians are taking losses as is expecting in urban assault. But Ukrops are getting absolutely wrekt. Russia is winning in exactly the way they planned. Essentially all their major objectives have been completed already. The remainder is just how many additional "independent" puppet republics they can stand up out of eastern Ukraine.
Austin Carter
>thinking they cant make their own parts Oh you poor retard
Angel Butler
>doesn't even mention the javelin
Lucas Morgan
The Russian economy is completely gutted, and they can't get their hands on many important resources because of sanctions. How the fuck are they gonna build T-14s with crude oil, grain and semiconductor tech from the late 90s? I know Russia has a large arms industry, but they rely heavily on import to sustain that. Weapons aren't just a block of milled steel anymore.
Josiah Howard
ofc they can, they just dont work LMAO, 70 years behind US in stealth technology KEK
Wyatt Murphy
Imagine actually believing this. Either a 14 year old retard or a Russian shill. Cringe
Carter Watson
One javelin is more expensive than most of the drones being used. I’m not going to argue about who is winning, but the fact remains that Ukraine is not as weak as first thought, AND these new drone system are incredibly effective despite what many said previously about them being “useless” against a developed military.
A cheap switchblade drone for example is incredibly effective, to the point Ukraine is ordering hundreds more over other systems. Even civilian drones are being bought en masse.
Probably they will end up giving a lot of technology away to China in exchange for this.
Andrew Richardson
>10k casualties >100s of vehicles lost
yeah russians are getting absolutely ass raped. Keep coping chump
Josiah Baker
Dude a javelin is 300K A TB2 is 6 million.
William Wright
>I think the biggest revelation coming out of this in the coming years will be a MAJOR shift towards unmanned systems by most countries umm yeah, you're a little late to the party. This all became very clear during the armenian-azerbaijani conflict
Ethan Peterson
This, its a gay meme since even Russia cannot be so cold as to send thousands of young Russian men off to die due to some retarded “cannon fodder” strategy.
Dominic Parker
>seething about the javelin
Evan Carter
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Gabriel Rogers
Putin the Great laughs at your flying gnats
Chase Flores
has this ever stopped them? ww2 was nothing?
Grayson Brown
My point is their use in Azerbaijan was treated with great dismissal by many since they would say Armenia is just a poor nation and drones will be ineffective against a real power.
This proves them wrong since Russia has a modern and developed military. Drones have also not been used on such a large scale before even in Azerbaijan or Syria.
Sebastian Jackson
For real.
Imagine thinking losing billions worth in military personnel, vehicles, materials, and technology while simultaneously destroying your credibility and publicly humiliating your military capability on a world stage is all "part of the plan". These shills and copers are seriously DELUDED.
Jack Ward
Yeah it was jsut serious cope. The drones were dominating the same shitty russian gear there that they are now. The cope was that it was the operators fault... meanwhile we have drone footage of a strike on literal Russian AA vehicle
Fun fact: Nikola Tesla said unmanned warfare will actually facilitate world peace and significantly reduce the retarding force of warfare upon human progress. Interesting developments indeed.
Josiah Stewart
There are many more drones than the TB2 A switchblade 600 is far less than a Javelin
Kayden Martinez
I will admit Ukraine is doing better than I imagined they would but I also don't believe Russia is using its full might. We'll see what happens but I'm convinced Russia is a much more superior military in every aspect.
Ryder Watson
The sanctions havent bothered them. Why would they? Have you seen the land mass of Russia?
Jack Sanchez
We are really entering a new era Its going to either be horrible or incredible. Just like how industrial mass production and platforms like the machine gun, tanks, and rapid fire artillery lead to a new era of warfare in WWI
Henry Gray
BASED, weve known this for a while though OP. future will be manned fighter/bomber aircraft with swarms of drones around them
Why can't the fucking UAV or whatever the fuck that dildo on the top is just be put inside the fucking thing? It looks like a goddamn telitubby ffs CRINGE
it helps when the entire west is funneling weapons and money to sustain your defense.
Andrew Barnes
It is, but I’m arguing that drone technology more than anything else is changing warfare to the point that a large amount of Russia’s strength and investment is not useful.
Easton Walker
Those have not been used yet AFAIK, they are being sent over right now.
Need to see how they perform first
Cameron Miller
the bombs they carry 20 thousand dollar.
Dominic Martinez
Agree with both of you
Hunter Anderson
Of course, but it shows that this is effective as well. Look how China has been sent scurrying off to the point even they are threatening to boycott Russia now (and toning down threats against Taiwan) due to how nervous this shit is making them.
China is in many ways suffers from the same issues as the Russian military, and the fact that a small nation can resist a major power makes them scared to pursue their own bullying in asia.
Connor Baker
>Nexta was the only source on this claim Kys you fucking retard
Michael Myers
Western handheld weapons and intelligence have utterly dominated the worlds 2nd strongest military... LMFAO now imagine real western tech vs russia bhahahahah
Benjamin Ramirez
Every drone deployed by ukraine, well over a hundred, has been shot down with less than a handful of successful bombings to show for it. You're a fucking retard. This conflict proves they've always been a meme fit only for a support reconnaissance role. The fucking things can't even maneuver or hit moving targets because of the delay. A close flyby from an actual jet is enough to knock them out of the air without wasting ammo. The RF signals can be spoofed and hijacked with man in the middle attacks or outright disabled with jamming. We lose every single simulation where these networked toys play any significant role. Its over. Its done. Fuck off forever.
Alexander Cook
People need to remember that defence budgets and contractors always err toward conservatism, even seeing Azerbaijan - Armenia war we can see they have still put very little investment into drone technology compared to more conventional stuff.
Meanwhile the “middle powers” like Turkey and Israel have invested heavily and are vindicated by the performance. Perhaps going forward the nations that invest more into drones will be the big winners. This looks bad for the USA since China is a major leader in drone tech, while the US drone budget is only 1.6 billion, one of the lowest investments in their entire air force.
Jace Lee
100 TB2 shot down? bullshit lmfao i think Ukraine had around 30 max.
Evan Sanders
>haha stupid russians, we won the battle russian battle doctrine is russian doctrine, I don't know what good all those billions spent and economic damage done if russia still ends up taking all of ukraine. I have no reason to believe the russians won't win due to their history of other similar losses in grozny wars, dagestan, etc.
