Do you really believe that jesus is god even though his last words were, "god, why have you forsaken me?"?
Jesus?
>even though his last words were
proof?
It's in the bible. If you don't want to believe the bible, then good for you. I don't need to talk to someone who doesn't believe the bible, you're already on the right track
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>>even though his last words were
>proof?
Wait... I assumed that you were an atheist troll. Please tell me that you're not actually a christian and you were asking sincerely. No, not possible... a christian knows jesus's last words.
Anyway, Matthew 27:46 is where he says it.
Wow, usually when a christian tries to argue, their posts are literally 1 sentence, 4 words max. For real. One letter? Have you guys devolved since I've last been here? It's only been like 6 or 7 months. Damn.
He could not die otherwise so he could conquer death
How could they be his last words when he got back up
>Do you really believe that jesus is god even though his last words were, "god, why have you forsaken me?"?
Yes.
>psalm 22
You are a brainlet.
Yes OP is a clown and digits don't lie.
Wow! Great logic!
This is a christian, guys! He thinks that jesus can talk to god, ask god questions, and still be god!
Even though jesus directly contradicts god!
God says, "eye for eye, tooth for tooth."
Jesus says, "you have heard it said, 'eye for eye and tooth for tooth,' but I say unto you that whosoever smites thee on thy left cheek, turn to him the other also."
NOTE: "eye for eye" is actually their justice system and jesus is proposing the EXACT OPPOSITE. Yep, we should DOUBLE the amount of suffering in the world! A judge is supposed to look at a case wherein Person A's eye was taken by Person B and the judge is supposed to say, "Person B, take Person A's other eye as well now!"
Jesus is so smart!
Keep reading retard those aren't his last words.
No, dipshit, it's Matthew 27:46, jesus says it. Just b/c he wasn't the first one to say it, that doesn't mean shit.
Also jesus, "do not suppose I am come to bring peace to the earth. I am not come to bring peace, but the sword. For I am come to set a man against his father, daughter against mother" and "the children shall rise up against their parents and cause them to be put to death."
Nice god, dipshit!
Yes, they were his last words. He said them, then he died (again proving that he's not god).
ALSO: the difference between someone who goes to heaven and someone who goes to hell is this - the person who goes to heaven has done the following; A) believes something, B) asks for something, C) accepts someone else's death as payment for their own crimes.
Are you honestly stupid enough to think that believing any one thing makes you a better person than someone who doesn't? You actually think that asking for forgiveness makes you a better person? Do you seriously think that accepting someone else's death as payment for your own crimes makes you a better person?
LOL. It doesn't even matter how big your crimes are, they're forgiven just the same and all you have to do is believe something and ask. DUMB. This is literally A JUSTICE SYSTEM in which it doesn't matter how big your crimes are!
FUCKING STUPID!
>It's in the bible.
So is the bit about him rising on the third day. So what he said on the cross wouldn't have been his last words. Right?
At least "Hey. Would you give me a hand moving this rock."
Or is the bible logically inconsistent?
They were his last words before he died. That's what "last words" are. If you want to claim that he didn't die and just became god, then how can you argue that that's some sort of sacrifice? PLEASE, kill me now and make me god! Dipshit.
This is a justice system in which it doesn't matter how SMALL your crimes are - you go to hell no matter how small they are. That's an eternal punishment for finite crimes - crimes that may be so small as to barely be considered crimes.
It's a justice system in which the scope of your crimes is irrelevant! SMART!
ALSO: jesus calls hell a "burning furnace." In the book of Daniel, 3 men are told to worship a false, wicked god or else they'll be thrown into a furnace. The men refuse, they're thrown into the furnace, but they're okay! They're protected by "an angel of light" and are perfectly fine! Jesus's "burning furance" is also complete with an angel of light - Lucifer! The bible calls Satan an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14)!
OOPS! Better worship jesus! You wouldn't want to go to hell - the burning furnace with the angel of light! OOPS! YOUR READING COMPREHENSION FUCKING SUCKS!!! RETARD!
Witnessed
There are disgusting evil pedophiles who infest this website. I pray you are driven out you fucking kike.
I am atheist and I know in Romans 9:5 says "Christ is god over all"
Which is a complete waste of energy because god is an imaginary friend.
Low effort.
>then he died (again proving that he's not god).
This doesn’t logically follow
>This is a justice system in which it doesn't matter how SMALL your crimes are - you go to hell no matter how small they are. That's an eternal punishment for finite crimes - crimes that may be so small as to barely be considered crimes.
That’s to promote matured moral thinking, whereby something can be wrong even if you aren’t punished for it conventionally. You apparently have not moved past the late infant stage
For another hilarious example of christians reading comprehension:
Christians claim that the serpent lied to Eve to trick her into eating from the Tree Of The Knowledge Of Good And Evil.
However, if you read all of the serpent's words, you can literally verify the truth of every word he said, just as long as you accept the rest of the story as truth.
Eve tells the serpent that god told her she'd die the day she at the fruit and the serpent told her that she wouldn't die, that instead of dying, "your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
IMMEDIATELY after she eats the fruit, the bible says, "her eyes were opened." And then this happens:
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
WAIT!!! So god is afraid that they'll live forever?! I thought "they would surely die the day they ate thereof"! OOPS! LOOKS LIKE GOD IS THE ONE WHO LIED!
DUMBASS CHRISTIANS AND THEIR DUMBASS READING COMPREHENSION, ROFL!!!!!
WHAT A BUNCH OF FUCKING COMPLETE RETARDS!
His last words were 'It is finished'.
Jude 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
He kicked them out of the garden containing the tree of life, so they couldn’t live forever, retard.
I'm disgusting! You worship a god who committed genocide, and I'M disgusting! THAT'S A FUCKING RIOT!
YOU SIDE WITH THE GROUP RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DARK AGES, INQUISITION, CRUSADES, WITCHCRAFT TRIALS, AND COUNTLESS HOLY WARS!
YOU SIDE WITH THE GROUP RESPONSIBLE FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTED CASES OF CHILD MOLESTATION AND YOU CALL ME A PEDO!!! I SEE YOU HAVE PEDOPHILIA ON YOUR MIND, SICK FUCK!
LOL! THAT'S LIKE BEING A NAZI AND CALLING SOMEONE OUT FOR BEING ANTI-NAZI! AND YOU CALLED ME A "KIKE" TO BOOT! ROFL! THE LEVEL OF PROJECTION IS ABSOLUTELY UNREAL!
You’re a bunch of faggots, speaking on a subject that you’ve never tried to remotely understand. If the scriptures have offended you then you might just Be either a queer looking to bash what you believe is your source of suffering or you haven’t taken the time to comprehend the words.
The serpent tempted Eve to doubt God's word. The sin of unbelief committed by Eve is the first sin. She believed the devil through his lies over God through His word.
Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was the most cunning of all the wild animals that the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You can’t eat from any tree in the garden’? ”
Gen 3:2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit from the trees in the garden.
Gen 3:3 But about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God said, ‘You must not eat it or touch it, or you will die.’ ”
Gen 3:4 “No! You will not die,” the serpent said to the woman.
God is immortal. If someone dies, they're not god. Sorry. Your logic sucks.
ISAIAH 55
6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near
7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
PSALM 103
8 The LORD is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.
9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.
10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.
12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.
13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.
14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.
ROMANS 4
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
ROMANS 10
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Jesus himself stated...
No one is greater tgan the father.
But worthy is the lamb, buddy.
I believe in the One who died for my sins. I believe in my own existence but I don't believe in myself because I believe in Jesus.
Hilarious. You're actually trying to justify AN INFINITE PUNISHMENT FOR FINITE CRIMES.
AN INFINITE PUNISHMENT FOR THE CRIME OF JAYWALKING. ROFL!
Jesus's death pays for ALL sins ever, right? Oh, but a billion years of torture won't pay for jaywalking? This is how retarded you are. THIS is how provably goddamn retarded you are.
John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.