> KP.RU is Russian propaganda piece > They published that official statistics shows that Russian Armed forces have lost 9861 personnel during this operation. > They quickly amended the article to remove the number > Now Ukraine and Russian opposition is running with that number
Article was published by some FEMOID who barely touches politics (though sometimes) and published shit like "funniest photo of 2021 was a picture of a monkey on a wire". So it feels unlikely she would be trusted with state secret information (that's how it's classified) right now. Could she be an activist, saboteur, or just really really dumb?
Possible explanations: > this was a provocation to start a panic - she was paid to do this. this is a made up number. > she knew the number somehow and disclosed it by mistake.
If it's the latter - then Russia is pretty much fucked... having 26'000 dead and wounded means Ukraine is winning, even if Ukraine has lost double that. Since they're officially doing second stage mobilisation and pulling 50k from a population of 40m is definitely doable. Russia can't afford to start mobilising for political reasons.
It's cool bro Nazi Germany had less deaths too let's see how well this works out for Ukraine
Gabriel Diaz
lol if true, the opening moves of this war are going to be taught for decades as an example of what not to do even if the Russians pull out a victory in the end.
Evan Sanchez
Sadly. How could anyone here actually know? Anyone spent time in Ukraine on the ground recently? And even then what distance can one person cover? Legacy Media is pernicious propaganda. I just realized that we're all truly insane here aren't we? We keep coming here to find out the truth,but how could we possibly find out the truth, here?
Benjamin Rivera
More realistic than muh > typical OSSHIT twitter faggot saying 2k losses a day!?!?! yaaa!!!!11!!!!!1
Jackson Davis
Well - you won't know the number, sure. But someone might know how information is delivered to state propaganda, like do they have private briefings with Ministry of Defence. Are they given the truth and then told to twist it in a certain way? What are the chances that an ordinary journalist would be privy to information that is literally military secret that can decide the outcome of negotiations?
Don't say people don't know the truth here. I think this place is full of insights. (it's also full of retarded jokes, and disinformation, but one learns to tell all those things apart rather soon). It's impossible to manipulate the /poll - not when people are THIS cynical.
Jaxon Roberts
I mean no one things number provided by Ukrainian side have any resemblance to the truth. But this is different.
Luke Richardson
1. Check the very first copy of the article from this archive website. It shows no such paragraph. 2. Error in that paragraph in the word "мaштaбных". 3. No any other sources, including from Russian MoD. etc.
I'll leave it to you to figure this one out.
Henry Gray
Oh, you think it's a trick from "webarchive". I don't trust then too much either. That's definitely one possible explanation.
Nathan Scott
Numbers match meme amount of planes and shit
We have nearly 0 evidence of russian planes taken down. Meanwhile Zelenski is literally crying for help to have air dominance to every possible country.
Facts >>> Claims
Hudson Moore
>> They published that official statistics shows that Russian Armed forces have lost 9861 personnel during this operation. They reported Ukraine's numbers not confirmed them. Dilate.
Joshua Nelson
while possible, I think it was either an inside job or KP got hacked doesn't really matter
Adrian Ross
that's nothing, my fav streamer has like twice that viewers daily
Jaxson Bailey
Sounds cold but 10k isn't a lot. Especially for a nation that historically sent millions on suicide charges.
Ryder Rivera
in other words, first KP uploaded an article there was nothing about the casualties and this copy was saved on March 20 by archive then later day someone at KP edited it (due to a protest, an inside job / part time contractor or a hack) then archive saved the edited copy then KP removed the edit
Xavier Price
Well, 10k dead AND 16k wounded. Means they've lost like 15% percent of their force already. Sure they can scrape MILLIONS of people if they absolutely must. But that would mean mass mobilisation and declaration of war. I'm not sure that will go well down in russia. That's last resort though... mobilisation & nukes.
Jason Howard
Almost: Initial article had information about russian high ranking officer being killed. Then information about casualties was added. Then article was completely removed (unpublished) Then article was added back (under the same ID) but without information about the death of high ranking officer OR casualties.
John Wood
nope, Ukraine's claim is "14700", which they're rejected, and said that real number is not "massive", and is "merely" 9861.
