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The retards edited the fake info into an old article instead of creating a new one. So it's easily deboonkable because that article was referring to this press conference:
This is nearly 30k killed or wounded in less than 4 weeks without taking any major cities (Kherson is the largest city they've captured but only the 17th most populous city in Ukraine).
(part 1) Several things to understand about the Russian Invasion of Ukraine. What has happened, what is happening, and what is to come to pass. How this can be deciphered? What is the current russian doctrine of insurgency, where does this doctrine arise from, who is its author? This, and many other questions I will attempt to answer. But first I will state several things. (1) I will not respond to anyone who insults me, disrespects me, or calls me names. (2) I do not claim to be a professional in any capacity, simply a man who is well read in history, and holds an opinion. There are several sources for the my knowledge and opinion. They are as follows: (1) "The Other Side of the Mountain: Mujahadeen Tactics in the Soviet-Afghan War" is a 1998 non-fiction book written by former Afghan Army Colonel Ali Ahmad Jalali and American military scholar Lester W. Grau. (2)"The Bear Went Over the Mountain: Soviet Combat Tactics in Afghanistan" is a 1996 non-fiction book translated and edited by American military scholar and author Lester W. Grau. The book is translated from a study initially published by the Frunze Military Academy in 1991 titled "Combat Actions of Soviet Forces in the Republic of Afghanistan" and subtitled "A Thematic Collection of Tactical Examples." "The Bear Went Over the Mountain" is a compilation of selected anecdotes written by Soviet field grade officers while serving as higher staff students at the Frunze Military Academy. The stories are based on their operational experiences during the Soviet–Afghan War. (3) Hadji Murat (or alternatively Hadji Murad)(Хaджи-Mypaт [Khadzhi-Murat]) is a novella written by Leo Tolstoy from 1896 to 1904 and published posthumously in 1912 (though not in full until 1917). It details Tolstoy's experience serving in Chechnia in 1900. It provides a wide view of Russian-Chechnian from a historical perspective.
Text On March 21, access to the admin interface was hacked on the Komsomolskaya Pravda website and a fake stuffing was made into a publication about the situation around the special operation in Ukraine The false information was immediately deleted.
Why Chechnia and Afghanistan? Because current Russian Federation military doctrine is built upon experiences of these conflicts. To understand what is going to happen in Ukraine, one must understand what did happen in afghanistan and Chechnia. Many of the senior officers currently commanding in Ukraine, where in fact deployed to the second Chechnian war as junior officers. Their experiences will directly impact their tactical thinking.
(part3) To try and break this down into simple terms and give you the TLDR version. The first chechnian war was a disater for soviet forces, so was afghanistan. The russian military realized that their strategy was faulty. They had reasonable tactics, small unit warfare tactics, overwhelming fire support ... and yet they kept losing. (Just like America in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc) So they looked at their strategy. Boris Yeltsin was in charge of the first chechnian war. It failed dramatically. When the former soviet union disintegrated, Chechnia immediatly declared its independence. Yeltsin immediatly went in, with lots of mechanized troops, helicopters and air support. He took control of the cities quickly. He drove the chechnian resistance fighters into the hills. He spent the next few years trying to rout them out of their mountain strongholds, but like the mujahedin, they could not be defeated easily. He was able eventually, to kill off the extremists, and reach a peace deal with the moderates in the capitol. A peace accord followed. Ten years later, the war kicked off again.
This time Yeltsin was not in charge. Putin was running the show. And Putin is a whole smarter, smarter apperently then the entire American command structure, who had the same problems Yeltsin had in Chechnia, in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. Putin realized that seizing the cities quickly and driving the insurgency into the hills is a mistake. He also realized that killing off the extremists before killing the moderates is a mistake. But first lets break down the four classes of people according to Putins new doctrine on insurgency.
>do you think ebil Butin will be able to finish the war before the next Victory Parade this year? Would be comfy af I hope so, and i also hope there is a big parade in Kiev
Shut up nigger, Russia is wining and they will soon take over (Which they are). Sit down and accept the L, in a few months once this war is over with, everyone and yes even (You) will forget about it. Hell even if Russia takes Moldova you wouldn't care.
Dude just become a celeb and make a trip to Crimea, that's literally all it takes to get into "Mиpoтвopeц" shit list.
Ian Cook
How the fuck has Russia lost 20% of its military equipment and 10,000+ soldiers to a country with a GDP lower than Arizona? They’re still probably going to win, but this amount of loss is catastrophic, especially with their crumbling economy making it practically irrecoverable.
>wtf why isnt russia carpet bombing all the infrastructure they built with their own tax dollars during the USSR
Ayden Bennett
part4 Putins new doctrine on dealing with insurgency. how and why. first the four classes of people in an insurgency. (1) non combatants. the elderly, the children, some of the women. anyone who cannot effectively defend themselves. (2) non combatants. those who are capable of defending themselves, but dont care to, becuase it doesnt matter to them. carpenters, truck drivers, ordinary workers ... "the tax cattle" ... people who dont care who is running the show, because either way, they get taxed. they just want to worka nd raise thier families, they dont want to be involved in the war if they can avoid it. (3) the extremists. these are war figthers, who will never stop. they will fight, no matter the odds, no matter the cost. they dont care, they will never make peace. (4) the moderates. these are the special class. they will stab you in the back. they will fight when your not looking. they will try ot make peace, and when you leave, they will agitate again for war. they create extremists. these are journalists, authors, politicans, preists, academics, film-makers, judges, lawyers. when the army is in front of their homes, they will sue for peace. when the army is far away, they agitate for war. they stir up extremists, they counsel them, they provide weapons, plans etc etc.
Putin recognized rightly that in any insurgency, its the moderates who are the real problem. The are the trumpeters of Aesops fable "the trumpeteer"
The different filenames cope is unreal. It's like no one else knows that Any Forums X exists. Why would these people believe these posts are organic from different posters when everyone knows it's the same Ukrainian living in England who just waits until the post count arrives at 280 to start refreshing Any Forums like a retard so he can be one of the first posters of the new thread. This is also a reminder that people should filter meme flags. You either show your dirty country flag or you don't get to voice an opinion. At least I know I won't read it :-) Fuck the globohomo so fuck Ukraine
part5 fablesofaesop.com/the-trumpeter-taken-prisoner.html A Trumpeter during a battle ventured too near the enemy and was captured by them. They were about to proceed to put him to death when he begged them to hear his plea for mercy. “I do not fight,” said he, “and indeed carry no weapon; I only blow this trumpet, and surely that cannot harm you; then why should you kill me?”
“You may not fight yourself,” said the others, “but you encourage and guide your men to the fight.”
Putin recognized what is most important. YOU MUST KILL THE MODERATES FIRST. This is the most important sentence in everything I write. YOU MUST KILL THE MODERATES FIRST. .
understand that is his goal, and the doctrine becomes clear. The trumpeteer must die. The failures in Afghnistan and Chechnia, indeed Americas failures in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, was due to this problem. Its easy to kill the extremists, they are obvious, they are the ones shooting at you!!! but as long as the moderates exist, you will never achieve a lasting peace. they just create more extremists.
So the question Putin had to solve was simple: "How do you kill the moderates first?"
Couple thousands of defenders Unknown number of invaders, but the boots on the ground telling that they are roughly 1:1
Josiah Scott
Well first of all, as long as the extremists exist, you have legal and moral cover you need to continue the war. As long as the extremists exist, no one can say to you, "Why wont you make peace?". Well thats obvious why, there are men with guns shoooting at me, they are extremists, they will not surrender, and they refuse to enter negotitations. As long as the extremist exist, you can kill the moderates. But we can do one better. What if I could create the situation where the extremists kill the moderates, and moderates are likely to become extremists ... now thats winning.
Hohols just have generic wojack edit #354235434634 while Buhankachan is 100% original OC. It's how you know what is genuine and organic and what is astroturfed shill garbage.
No more tranime plz, the original red army choir version is just fine
Carson Scott
lewd
Isaiah Collins
How long do you think will the sanctions be in place after the war is over? Am in no mood to pay more, because of some shithole only poles and czechs care about
Ryder Baker
Will Russia comply with the Geneva convention when it comes to Azov soldiers? I am worried about my fellow Natsocs in Mariu/pol/.
Much more credible sources, fewer of whom are associated with governments.
Austin Myers
>sniper >calling someone a pussy the irony
Juan Mitchell
It's not that it's sizable, but i've seen footage of russians in mariupol, Russians go door to door, building to building eliminating a probability of their escape to counter insurgency right from the start.
Jeremiah Johnson
Shills are on overdrive today. Did I miss something, or did they just get handed the new guidelines by their handlers? Yall are welcome to reply too, shills.
Logan Campbell
Sanctions are here to stay, user.
Daniel Ross
how to create that situation. part7
(1) occupy the countryside to deny these wooded and moutainous regions at the beggining. force everyone into the cities (the cauldrons). Once the cauldrons are established, humanitarian corridors (controlled by the russian army of course) will be opened. Let the class one people leave (non combatants, no tax base). the elderly, the infirm, the children ... release them to leave to the west. the russians dont want them. they dont pay taxes. they become refugees. (2) pacify an area, and allow the tax cattle (taxpaying working class types who dont want to be part of the fight) back into pacified areas. (3) in the cauldrons, one by one, the big cities, soon all that remains are extremists and moderates (for the most part) (4) break down infrastructure, destroy water and power, make life hard in the cauldrons. this will cause chaos. they are all armed, but have little food, no power. the moderates are forced to fight, and the extremists will blame the moderates for the situation, killing many of them, both for resources, and as revenge, calling them cowards, etc etc. (5) as you kill extremists slowly, the moderates will suffer collateral damage. (6) any moderates who attempt to flee out the humanitarian corridors are either arrested (the high profile ones), or simply sent back, forcing them to fight. (7) the final stage is when the situation in the cauldrons has become so dire, the moderates are all extremists, the cities are piles of burnt out rubble, they are fighting each other for scraps ... then the russian army can roll in ... to "restore order" and of course, kill the extemists, who are all that are left.
and voila ... you have successfully pacified an insurgency, and its unlikely to spring up again.
I expect it will never to be lifted. Enjoy the bugs and owning nothing since Biden just went full NWO.
Colton Harris
I can’t tell if Russia is raping or killing Ukraine
Josiah Roberts
you vill ovn nothing, und you vill be happi
Adam Reyes
I apologize for the blog post. I hope you find it informative. Once again I will state, I am not an expert, its just my opinion. (In fact Im just a gen x carpenter who enjoys reading military history).
my personal opinion on this conflict is of two sides. (1) The russians of Ukraine have been treated very poorly by the Ukrainian government, they have basically waged a genocide agaisnt the russian people living in Ukraine, Zelensky is a war criminal (he is guilty of attempted genocide, crimes against humanity) and (2) The Ukraine is a sovereign nation, the russian army has no business being there. Agreements where made to maintain peace (The Minsk and Elbe agreements), that NATO would not expand eastward, and that the Ukraine would not be a member. I think its important to point out, that the US GOV could have prevented this war by simply stating publicly, "NO .. the Ukraine will never be a member of NATO". Whether that is causus belli or not, I am not going to argue, just sayin".... There are two sides to every coin, it takes two to tango, and three wrongs dont make it right. I personally know both Russians and Ukrainians, I think very highly of them. Every man has the capacity to be honourable or evil. I sincerely hope for peace for all concerned, and justice for those who have had crimes committed against them.
New guidelines, amongst other things, they've learned to: 1. >Not fight back anymore. Their target audience are the thousands of lurkers, not the people in the thread. When you reply to them, they barely reply back anymore. 2. >Started employing the one and only functional tactic they figured out a while ago; accusing everyone of being a fed to sow dissent and cause confusion.
Why the increased activity? Probably due to the fact that the accounts from the Ukrainian civilians fleeing Mariupol is running counter to the prevailing Western narrative regarding who is responsible for the devastation in Mariupol.
>click the chinese link >see a bunch of cuties So why would I hate China again?
Jackson Nguyen
>Russians reporting on Ukrainian lies >brainlet: the Russians confirmed it!!!! Kys
Jacob Hill
>much more credible sources. So some rando on Twitter and Reddit who actually aliases of western media campaign and larpers who want to collect likes and upvotes.
Christian Moore
Anyone have Mp4 of zelensky dancing like the faggot he is?
It's not rape, it's just a 'cuddle with a struggle', said Russian officials.
Jose Jackson
STFU nigger
good posts
Hunter Hall
No, they are considered part of the Ukrainian military.
Jason Bell
They will exchange grunts with their own pows and as for prominent azov leaders and popular fighters or outright nazis (tattoos for example) they will give them to LNR/DNR for trials. And they got death penalty so...yeah
Adrian Sanchez
>Enter Marioupol with great haste >Rush the Center of the town >Now surrounded by Ukrainians >Die
What did the Russians mean by this? All they have to do is siege the city, UkrCom even said its not possible to resupply it
Brayden Taylor
>Considering this is in British MSM the Polish involvement and annexation of Lviv scenario seems more probable. DO IT I want poleshits to get decimated