Europe >Lose 20% of your income due to ((free Healthcare)) >Never use it, and if you do, pay a big margin of the bill anyways if you need medical service that isnt 100% needed >Entire health system overloaded, as every nigger goes to the doctor due to a headache >considered "good" and "a must have" in society
America >Not forced to pay for this shit >can voluntarily get health insurance if you want >Dont have to wait 10 months for an x-ray, because the hospitals arent overworked >somehow the worst thing possible
Because if you actually need to use it you go bankrupt. If you’re born in a home birth and never touch a hospital or doctor for any reason ever then the American system is better. If at any point you have a serious bone breakage, major ligament tear, get fucked up by a car, get cancer, get shot, have a heart attack etc, in your 85 years of life, then the Euro system pays for itself
Grayson Parker
You forgot to mention that here in America the hospitals give you a grace period to get insurance if you get billed without any
Dylan Harris
So why wont mutts just get health insurance on their own, if they want???
Tyler Myers
user pays is the best way. why should i have to subsidise some poor fucking immigrants healthcare or some shitty genetic boong that cant stop eating all the food
Jaxson Hall
There are pros and cons to each imo. America's population is too heterogeneous for a system to work on such a merit. You say that Europe overwhelms their systems and maybe that's true, but there might be a solution to that. I'm not in the medical field so I don't know. I'm not for socialized medicine but I think it could work on a smaller scale
Hunter Lee
If Austria didn't have healthcare-at-gunpoint it would be better because you already don't have niggers so it will work. Think about how much money you could make.
Ethan Scott
Shut up lmao >be me >feel like my appendix burst, like glass shards in my intestines >go to ER >get tests like bloodwork, mri, etc >get told to buy stool softeners because apparently i had dried stool buildup >$150 total OH NO I'M BANKRUPT!!!!!
Isaiah Hughes
>the Euro system pays for itself lolno you think we actually get cared about? could spend hours telling stories of people our hospitals let die, purposely, to avoid costing the system the actual cost to us? the real taxation on the average French household is 65% of the full income (people aren't too aware of it, because our state makes them believe some taxes are paid by the employer, yet, so called "patronal tax" is paid in exchange for work, and thus is part of the full salary) and the actual unemployment number? the pilpuled one only counts pople not barred from unemployment gibs, and divides it by the whole population, from toddlers to old fucks (not even joking); meanwhile, when you count the actual number of unemployed people, and divide it by the working age population, minus the state "workers" (since they can't be fired: makes no more sense counting them than toddlers and old fucks), the real unemployment number is 33%... oh, we don't just get utter shit "health" "care", for that price, but also lazy as fuck cops who almost never move their asses (and only make things worse the odd times they do), commie jewdges who wipe their asses with the law (always soft as fuck with actual criminals, and hard as fuck against victims), schools that basically are commie indoctrination camps, etc
Tyler Russell
What’s your yearly premium? Here’s my own story >mother is 55, 5’5 140, never drank, smoked, or touched a drug in her life >no prior health problems >has 3 stress related heart attacks over the course of 3 months >6000 to meet deductible >now her premium is 26k a year for shitty 6000 deductible >nobody will insure her for less than 22k a year Decided to ditch insurance after she went a year without a heart attack and are 7 years into betting she won’t have another before she’s on Medicare >fast forward to last year, she’s 61 now, life insurance won’t cover her because she refuses to take the clot shot >if she takes the clot shot, they won’t start her coverage until an “evaluation period” one month after 2nd dose >they literally want to see if she dies from the vax before they’re willing to cover her, although they won’t cover her at all without it >still not taking it Fuck the USA, Fuck the Jews, Fuck you and everyone who defends them
Nolan Perry
socialized "medicine" encourage irresponsibility no one really pays, so no one is really responsible when things are botched there's no scale to which such fucktardry is even remotely good
Christian Lopez
I'm Italian and that sounds an awful lot like Italy lol
Daniel Ross
Everyone here goes private anyways whenever they don't feel like waiting six months for an appointment.
Private is cheaper here, though.
Jaxson Reyes
if everyone else is an npc why are you the one not happy
Dylan Reyes
same ingredients (shit), same recipe (shit): same dish (utter shit)
Oliver Powell
Bare minimum for a couple of hours in the ER without insurance is around 8 grand.
Austin Myers
If you have 3 heart attacks at 55 of course nobody is gonna want to cover you for cheap. I'm glad i didn't have to foot that bill. If you want to complain about costs cry at hospitals and big pharma over charging for everything because there's no competition due to "open enrollment"
Joshua Taylor
>think of the billionaires! Fuck you
Wyatt Cook
See
Ryder Edwards
>just pay 30k a year for the next 30 years so you don’t go bankrupt and live in a tent city >oh, you hate the system? What are you a communist? Fuck you again
Gavin Nguyen
That's not how insurance works, kiddo.
Chase Rodriguez
Where did i say that? I said blame the billionaires you retard, they're the ones who make it so that there's no competitive pricing for insurance and medical services
Owen Wright
Poors can't afford good insurance. Middle class can afford okay insurance, and upper class can afford anything. It's a class issue, less of a health care issue
Brody Gomez
Who do you think *owns* insurance companies?
Zachary Russell
>if you actually need to use it you go bankrupt This is 100% bullshit and some lie that the socialists tell to fearmonger everyone in switching the system. My Dad was in the hospital for a month, paid 0$ at the end. Had 2 ambulance rides, paid 0$ for both of them.
Oliver Gonzalez
Except we have to pay property and income tax in addition to being legally required to carry some form of insurance for both your health and car, if you can't or don't fines may apply. So basically we have traded one scam for a different set of scams that arguably suck worse because you're paying for some CEO's McLaren and the privilege of being told that your insurance doesn't cover X or Y or that the plan won't pay out the stipulated amount because of some contract clause. Fuck the entire system and its varaitions to death.
Easton Butler
That's How it works. Coworker had babies before he was on company insurance. Hospital gave 30 or 90(?) Day grace period to get insurance
James Lewis
You’re a filthy fucking capitalist libertarian pig
Xavier Cooper
Before spending more money on free shit,
what about those niggers milking free shit?
And how come the Jew loves to 180 degrees to the white teenager "Hey I could use some help too!" YOU? NEED HELP? NO. LAZY AND NOT WANNA WORK.
Kevin Scott
The Nazis had free healthcare and couldn't stop people from going to the doctor all the time for bullshit reasons. Do you think our tolerant, weak democracies can?
Daniel Hall
Read my post history, it’s not fear mongering, it happened to my family
Dylan Butler
What do you think happens when you can't get good paid healthcare? you get government healthcare guess what government healthcare is? FUCKING TERRIBLE
You're actually braindead and 200% triggered I'm not saying the system is perfect at all
Aaron Brooks
It's not, and you have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about, nor have you had an ER visit without insurance.
Jose Smith
>get treatment >dont pay for it >nothing happens do you guys think we have hospital cops who kill you over medical bills? anyone who pays is a sucker
Aiden Nguyen
You paid $6k, boohoo
Ryder Wood
it is a total meme
the cost is just hidden
Eli Clark
Socialist medicine only works if your entire nation is homogeneous
Jeremiah Perez
Yea I’m fucking pissed because people like you are allowed to exist. In a functional society there’d be two shots to the back of your fucking head and you can be an individualist libertarian 6 feet under the earth. Eat shit