Phase 1: Attack Ukraine

Phase 1: Attack Ukraine
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Compromise

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They are leaving with east Ukraine at the very least which is a major victory regardless

Better compromise my foot out yo ass

Russia asked for a security guarantee. It wasn't given.

NO MORE BROTHER WARS.

Dont forget the sneed, dawg.

Are we going to pretend now that that was their goal from the begining? Because they could have gotten that much easier.

>losing territory means we win
NATO missile launchers on the border was the issue

How, they kept asking for 8 years

They need to run out of ammo and be even more humiliated.

Look at these pathetic cunts. Get ready, boys, the cope brigades are loading their posts. When Russia capitulates, get ready for this shit hole of a board to be full of 'LOL THEY WON THIS WAS THEIR GOAL MAJOR RUSSIA VICTORY' for fucking weeks.

Russia wants a buffer state without NATO involvement. Why is this so hard to understand?

desu the west helped ukraine so it's more like russia vs the whole developed world

musicanon, did you make these songs? They sound kind of like ratboy genius instrumentals

The problem is Russia isn't strong enough to enforce such an arrangement. Neither politically nor economically, and now it's obvious they are struggling to do it even by military means.

You mad bro?

happened to the united states under g.w.bush. china was sick of illegal deportation of expatriots who went to america. the chinese won a legal battle that took many many years in america and were financially compensated but at the time china as a nation imposed a nickel embargo on america. the navy went to go save the day and end it. it failed and the nickel embargo went the distance. to this day nickel is still a little more expensive than it probably should be

No, I don't see it that way. Russia can wreck Ukraine to a degree that it won't recover for a century, and both parties shouldn't want this. Ukraine putting their trust in the West again, that they will stop the slaughter when it's hands off for Russia. It didn't work before, it won't work now.

Is this the new liberal, redditor line of reasoning? Well the Russian's didn't REALLY get what they wanted, therefore Putin le BTFO forever.

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Phase 1 9/11
Phase 2 covid

Russia is more wrecked than ukraine tho
Europe will pump money into Ukraine non stop
Russia will turn into leningrad 2.0

Baltics already in NATO with their missile , at the same distance to moscow, as ukraine, dumbass

How can you win when you lose half your landmass which has the most oil and gas?

atm it's not clear if Europe will be in a good position after this, you're thinking about the status quo before war. We don't feel the results of the changing economical vectors now, and more has happened in a week than in decades.

he's just following Putin's orders because Putin doesnt believe ukraine is a country, they all do whatever he says because he's all powerful

The only possible reason russia would be seeking a deal is so that it can rest, rearm, refuel, and muster another army to invade ukraine again.