Russia does not begin to have a large enough military to occupy Ukraine and bring Ukraine to a point where they’d make that kind of concession. This is a country with a population of over 40 million, and Putin has already committed the vast bulk of his military. It’s extremely costly for the Russians to keep up this kind of siege. Every single day, they lose a large number of armored vehicles, men, supplies. The morale in the Russian army appears to be extremely low.
Lol, Russia has not ”commited the bulk of its army”. Where have you heard this?
James Ward
Russia has already capture or encircled most if not all of the vital strategic points in eastern Ukraine, including kherson, mariupol, chernihiv, and kiev. The relative lack of resistance in many of these areas like kherson leads me to believe the Ukrainian army is actually the one in tatters and unable to even contest super vital strategic objectives like railway lines into kiev and bridge crossings in kherson. Once encircled, a city like kiev will last 3 weeks tops before people start starving to death. Ukraine is not prepared for a siege if leningrad. At best it will be 2nd battle of fallujah. You are not immune to propaganda. You are not immune to propaganda.
Andrew Rodriguez
Man you're a fucking retard.
Putin is going into Ukraine, completely obliterating their military and government, installing his own government then leaving them neutered and ineffectual, he doesn't need to "occupy" shit.
There are no shortage of Ukrainian's who are happy to lord over Ukraine on behalf of Russia.
Jace Myers
>imagine believing the narrative
Sebastian Clark
>44 million >40 million
easier to rule over a 30 million pro russia population, could also make it 25 million desu
Xavier Nelson
15% of their military is in the Ukraine
Gavin Cruz
ZOGBOT cia lies. I believe nothing any shill says.
Anthony Kelly
>trillions of rubles ($3.50) flow into the KGB aka "totally not KGB" aka FSB >hundreds of thousands of KGB agents are paid and educated on how to spread propaganda and subvert internet communities to astroturf their bidding >this is the best counter they could come up with against the putin monkey meme, after weeks of deliberation and probably hundreds of executions for not delivering results up until that point
Xavier Thompson
I think Russians underestimated their enemy strength while overestimating their own. It's now obvious that a lot more troops were needed. I think it's completely unrealistic to expect regime change or demilitarisation now that Ukrainian government managed to hold out the initial attack
Jacob Cook
>russian army >morale lol you really do not understand russians, do you?
Liam Gray
Ok cool then just shut the fuck up and watch as russia collapses into nothing.
William Hernandez
What the FUCK is Putin even doing? I doubt even Putin himself know the answer
Russia has around 800,000 active soldiers, most of them conscripts. It has committed around ~120,000 so far, so around 1/8th
Bentley Diaz
All governments do this, but you and OP are the 1pbtid soooo.
Owen Lewis
>committed the vast bulk of his military. Are you fucking braindead? Russian military deployed only 150k troopers out of 1kk of active personnel(because they decided to sent to Ukraine only contractors)
Joshua Johnson
So it took them 3 weeks to encircle (not occupy) a handful of cities in the east, which is predominately Russian and will see comparatively little resistance. Ignoring the economic cost of the operation and the crumbling Russian economy, how long will it take them to occupy the rest of Ukraine? How long are Russian troops going to be stationed there? How long can the Russian economy survive cut off from the west?
Evan Fisher
>Once encircled, a city like kiev will last 3 weeks tops before people start starving to death. My city of half a million people held out over 3.5 years. Western Aleppo held out for over a year. A complete blockade is impossible and even if there was no smuggling or stuff humanitarian corridors will remain open and some supplies will stream in. Depending on where exactly the blockade starts cities can produce tons of produce once parks and shit get turned into veggie patches and people start growing shit on their balconies.
Noah Gonzalez
>All governments do this True, but not all governments have been reduced to burning rubble by a single monkey meme.
Lucas Hughes
This meme is dumb yet hilarious
Jace Peterson
Cool source.
Anthony Barnes
so if like 3/4 of the Russian army is deployed in Ukraine to quell the partisan movement there, who's gonna defend the rest of Russia?
Brandon Barnes
And they didn't even started city warfere. Imagine the loses if they try to advance into Kiev.
Parker Garcia
considering kherson is the second largest dneiper crossing and that kherson and kiev are insanely good locations to hold the dneiper, ukraine simply allowing the Russians to walk around kiev (through marshes, forests, and smaller cities, in an area with poor infrastructure) and into kherson with little resistance does not indicate to me that the Ukrainian army is anywhere near being able to hold the Russians off in the field. If the entire ukrainian army is encircled and obliterated in eastern Ukraine then occupying west ukraine will be a breeze, if it is even necessary to win the war.
Juan Johnson
>and even if there was no smuggling or stuff humanitarian corridors will remain open Do you really think russia will let the ukrainian army resupply through their siege? Look at fallujah for what happens when an army actually uses logical tactics in siege warfare.
Thomas Allen
>My city of half a million people held out over 3.5 years.
Let's not compare the number of soldiers Bosnian Serb "people's militias" could have sent to besiege Sarajevo to the regular Russian army though.
The main problem is that Russia is simply able to bomb/shell everything to the ground if they're already bored with trying to make the city starve, it all depends on if there's still any kind of morality in Putin's soul.
Nathaniel Cook
>a large enough military to occupy Ukraine he doesn't need to occupy shit, he can sumply bomb any water plants, electricity plants, bridges and other key infrastrucutre and supply warehouses to make Ukraine unlivable and then pull his army out and hohols won't be able to return for decades
Ayden Flores
Teaching a brand new generation of russian conscripts how awful urban warfare is
Ryan Kelly
The Russians learned their lesson from grozny
Brayden Thomas
A repurposed meme that is spammed, its not clever, just a bunch of morons spamming and going >tehehehhehehe look how good we are at memeing Even OP's drescription is a bunch of made up b.s. with no source and you guys think you're trolling so hard, when its straight spam.
Cameron Hill
They constantly shit post here. Posting completely fabricated stories to scare people from joining the fight. They know they will have to retreat. Completely outmatched when they are engaged. I have not seen a single piece of information showing them winning.
Cooper Phillips
it is actually the majority of the active standing army, not including any reserve forces (which we'll likely see in a few months). OP is still a faggot though as Ukraine has literally zero counter attack capability. Seige tactics are the best for Russia as they vastly outnumbered and large-scale urban warfare takes a shitload of troops. If Russia controls food, supplies, and cripples their ability to coordinate that's all they need to do.