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by working toward the goal of forming wholesome communities irl made up of based & repilled pollacks living off the land in accordance with nature, it's fundamental truths and it's beauty. Who are ready to face the ugly realities of a "society" that grows more bleak and hostile every day.
We cannot silently accept or hide from the globohomo agenda it's degeneracy and our demographic decline. It is our duty to fight with all the love in our heart for ourselves, each other and our kin. Fuck being alone. Fuck feeling doomed! We will save the doomers, free the wage slaves and tell the rent seekers to go to hell.
There is a better way to live for our people. We will live as we used to; as a tribe. "Together we are stronger" and by uniting like minded people together we can change our lives for the better and from that change we can change our political and cultural reality.
Instead of public school indoctrination & wokism massive loans, debt slavery and usury soul crushing city life & it's dangers
We offer alternatives to the globohomo agenda like
Homeschooling & natural reality building our own homes using inexpensive methods & our own labor the joy of community pride & working smarter not harder producing healthy food and improving our quality of life.
There is a better way to live but it is up to us to live it. So come on in and join our project and help manifest this into reality.
Hey fren! Aquaponics would be a great addition to any "startup community". Like the bell siphon idea btw, clever! For those too lazy to watch all the vids, quick synopsis: now when you grow and feed fish the little aquatic fellows need to get rid of the excess nitrogen they take up with the food ... however, fish cannot piss like us to get rid of nitrogen, instead they breathe out ammonia into the water. Now ammonia is toxic to the fish so you gotta get rid of it otherwise they will suffocate. This is done by running the water through a biofilter where bacteria turn ammonia into nitrate ... and nitrate in the end is fertilizer for plants so you can next run the water through a hydroponics culture to grow vegetables. The plants remove then nitrogen from the water and you can run it back into the fish tank. Quite a nice system, can be sized from smol backyard operation up to something that could provide food to a whole village.
Why do equilibrium flow happen ? It happens because the water needed to start the siphon is the same or more then that require to sustain a continuous flow.
How do we stop equilibrium flow ? To stop this equilibrium flow few things needed to be done: Ensuring the difference between water flowing in to make a siphon and water needed to sustain a continuous flow large. Ensuring water flowing out of the siphon at the end of cycle (residual flow) will still be strong enough to pull in air causing the break. How do we achieve this ?
We have to make a siphon to start with less amount of water flow in, to that of the same size basic siphon. Make a siphon with strong residual flow. Which would make the difference above large enough to ensure no continuous flow is maintain.
Howdy Farmerbro
That guy from South Dakota would be a good addition to the project. He has a lot of land and a lot of cattle but said their are just too few people living around him to find (and keep) good help
He should build a couple homes like the ones you are building and he could off free room and board and help some people out they would have a job helping him and could save up I think if he put the homes up he would find that help here.
hopefully /CTW/ is capable of that. would be a win win if he found good folks.
would be fun to have him part of this project even if it took a year from now to hear him tell us about who he brought in how's it going for them
I anticipate a community of 15 families with a full dorm would consume 1800 broilers per year. That's three of these giant bastards. Layers should be kept in smaller tractors with no more than 30 hens and a solitary Chad rooster. Scaling that up requires more roosters, and if you pen them in together they'll spend all their time fighting or killing your hens.
Roosters are strange, and tend to pick favorites for servicing, just like people. If there are multiple roosters around, and they notice one of them choosing a favorite, they'll also focus on that hen to the point where they will spend all their time fucking it to death. You'll go out one day and the poor hen will have all the feathers on the back of its neck and back torn off, and by the next day it will be covered in blood. By day three ... death by snu snu. Multiple roosters can work in a yard and coop scenario, but not in tractors. Ever.
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I srsly like the aquaponics idea! Good vids btw! Tilapia might be good choice for simple system as they eat all kinds of (waste) plant material and are quite tolerant to changing water conditions. Think keeping a comfy temperature for them is the biggest hurdle depending local climate.
>b-but farmerbro, how will kids be able to move those bastards?
It's easy: there are reasons why just about every non-hobby farm has a Kubota-style tractor kicking about. They are so simple to use even a 10-year-old can operate the thing, and for towing operations alone, there would be no difficulties involved. Just hook the chain to the hitch and drag it. Bam, done, return the tractor to the pole barn and drive your Mule back to your community (again, so simple even children can operate them).
What I'd like to point out, however, in that chicken tractor design the feeding and watering system is pants on head retarded. On a coop that size, you mount ~20 gallon drums on the side, and let it gravity feed into PVC runs that have chicken nipples spaced every six inches down the length. For feed, you would want troughs, not that type of feeder (they inevitably get filthy and filled with rotting waste). So each day the kiddos fill the tank in the bucket of the tractor, raise the bucket above the fill height, stick the hose in the top of the water barrel, and turn the valve. Easy peasy. As for feed, they just walk in and fill the trough after dragging the tractor.
So for a family of four with two labor allocations (and two sons), a work cycle would look like this. They wake in the morning, walk to the community center, and grab a Mule. They drive this down to the pole barn, and while one fills up the water tank, the other loads feed into the back of the mule. Then the two drive the equipment to the field and tow the tractors. Then, as one tops off the water barrels, the other does the feeding. Once done, they drive the tractor back to the pole barn, ride the Mule back to their community, and walk home.
30-45 minutes is all the time it would take each day, and that family's labor allocation is accounted for. In the process, those kids are providing for the chicken consumption of ~30 families over the course of a year.
Jace Myers
>It would be fun to set one up
Hmmm, no garden yet, wouldn't wanna try it in the attic. ^^ Might however get a chance to see this implemented on a larger scale, this might be some damn valuable experience. :)
>Might however get a chance to see this implemented on a larger scale
nice.
Dominic Moore
I should point out: when those tractors near the end of the field, this is the only time things get difficult. You'd want an adult out there doing the column rotation to prevent accidents, and that'll be a multi-hour project if you're dealing with 3+ tractors of that size. So the full-time cattle hand will have to come over every couple of weeks to do this, most likely. It'll be a nice break from tard-wrangling steers and mending fences.
The problem with this sort of setup is the complexity of it: inevitably, the more complex a system is, the more potential points of failure or fouling. This sort of thing might be nice for someone's back porch pot operation, but on a larger scale ... oof.
Parker Sullivan
>30-45 minutes is all the time it would take each day, and that family's labor allocation is accounted for. In the process, those kids are providing for the chicken consumption of ~30 families over the course of a year.
nice.
Jose Davis
Oh thank god There's been more hidden threads than shown threads on the front page for days now So what's everybody started for their garden?
Jordan Jackson
Bump.
Luke Scott
>but on a larger scale ... oof. I feel like you'd need to be in the business of farming fish to start with to even consider such an idea
Carson Campbell
When I say that operating those types of tractors is simple enough for even young children, I mean it. They have a hydrostatic clutch mechanism, so after turning it on, the only time you press the clutch pedal is to swap gears (L, M, neutral, H). From there, you have a brake pedal (which you won't need except to engage the emergency brake) and a rocker pedal: lean it forward and you go forward, and lean it back and you go in reverse. That pedal isn't the throttle, it's more like a reverse clutch that engages the engine proportionally to how much you tilt it. The throttle is a level to the side that allows you to dial in the RPM of the engine with great precision, and once it's dialed in, you just leave it.
As for the bucket, you have one level: up is down, down is up, to the left tilts the bucket up, and to the right tilts the bucket down.
A 10-year-old can learn to operate those things competently in a half hour. And at a top speed of around 12 MPH in H, it's not like they're going to be out there doing drag races in it. Adults tend to take less than five minutes to get comfortable with them ... they're that intuitive to operate. Ones with mini-excavators take more time to get comfortable with, but even that is the kind of thing that after an hour of use people can function on it effectively.
Tyler King
Level = lever. I don't know how I typo'd that twice.
Isaac Scott
Jep ... if lucky can participate. :)
>This sort of thing might be nice for someone's back porch pot operation, but on a larger scale ... oof.
I know. Seen some of the design docs, need to know exactly what you're doing (and an experienced operator). Also at that scale things are optimized for commercial application so likely cannot directly translate into small community operation. Still, even here the trend is very much towards a /ctw/-like smaller "enclosed cycle" system with modular design that could be quickly installed anywhere and is easy on the maintenance.
The system I forsee is a network of buried soaker lines centrally controlled by a remotely operated valve. Newer systems have wifi integration, so you can turn them on and off on your phone and monitor system pressurization. So for a distributed community orchard, you just need someone to turn it on or off each day and you're good. Or, if you want to get fancy with it, place moisture sensors at the end of each soak hose run, and have it automatically turn on and off depending on the needs of the trees. This is the direction most commercial orchards are heading in.
Oliver Moore
>you just need someone to turn it on or off each day and you're good. Do you? When I worked for public works, the watering systems were fully automated and we only tweaked them seasonally
