Europe is simply too weak militarily, big part of that is USA's fault, but it shouldn't be case.
With the spectre of a revanchenist soviet union it also became blatantly clear how destructive it was that USA a foreign non european country went and destroyed germany like it did, because germany is necessary along with france britain and others to have a meaningful defense against russian army which has always been the real danger to europe territorially. East europeans primarily but certainly also west europeans.
Pic somewhat related.
Also it's so sad that war is over essentially in europe, a very small continent is why there has been quite a few, and then the biggest country on the entire planet (russian federation) decides it fucking wants more territory.. Fuck putin, slava ukraine.
kek The desire for a multinational military is a fundamentally cucked and globalist ideal. The ultimate method of redress against an overbearing government is of course violent revolution, and regardless of what any fag professors or kike books will tell you, the ONLY thing that matters in a revolution is flipping the military. This can be achieved either by causing officers within the military to defect, or simply building a popular movement until average Joe rifleman looks at the crowd he's been ordered to fire upon and says "Shit, my wife, son, father and brother are all in that crowd!" and drops his weapon, precipitating the collapse of discipline and the fall of the government. A multinational military blocks both of these avenues. A G*rman who gets shipped to Spain to put down pro-separatist revolts doesn't give a fuck how many Spaniards are in the crowd, they're not his countrymen and not his family. An officer corps which is drawn from multiple nations and is beholden to an overriding authority which will exist past the fall of any one government cannot be turned - at least not by a single, isolated national movement.
Its often said but rarely understood that "Governments should fear their people" rather than vice-versa. A multinational military is the death of that ideal. If you actively wish for such a thing, you are a traitor to your nation, volk, and culture, and deserve to be fed to fucking dogs.
Jace Butler
>The desire for a multinational military is a fundamentally cucked and globalist ideal. No, it's pretty good idea, because no individual nation has any chance against russia. There was every good reason why NATO was formed, right now ukraine dreaming of that they were in it.
Levi Kelly
who's going to join it? Middle Easterns and blacks?
Fix the demographics first. Main reason I voted to leave the EU is because of crazy shit like this
David Ross
>America literally has a larger army than Russia >Russian navy is basically in the 18th century >Airforce clearly in fucking shambles given Ukrainian performance Russia is an army of muslim savages and inexperienced teenage conscripts you worthless coward, you're the definition of a Good Goy, begging the ruling class to murder your self-determination on an altar comprised of kike lies and your own terrified piss.
Aiden Davis
>who's going to join it? Middle Easterns and blacks? an european joint army with all european nations and territories west of the ural mountains. Aka europe.
Brody Jenkins
Never going to happen. European states hate each other.
Colton Kelly
>Russia is an army of muslim savages and inexperienced teenage conscripts you worthless coward, you're the definition of a Good Goy, begging the ruling class to murder your self-determination on an altar comprised of kike lies and your own terrified piss. Tell that to ukraine right now how useless russian army is you cocksucker.. even now when you see how it works, you still argue we should not be able to defend ourselves without USA swinging its military dick.
Gabriel Smith
>Never going to happen. European states hate each other. Says who? no we don't, european nations like eachother quite a lot, it shows that you are not living on this continent idiot. Your obnoxious american ideas about what europeans think about eachother belong in american toilet, not in this thread.
Matthew Hill
>Fix the demographics first. Main reason I voted to leave the EU is because of crazy shit like this You can have strict military alliance without having a beauraucracy that decides how many foreign immigrants each member nation of EU gets, which i'm also against. But this grievance was never about military cooperation, but about other things EU beaureaucrats idiots do in bruxelles. And those in bruxelles are very disconnected from their own country and peoples to begin with which is problem of why they do thing like that.
Zachary Morris
you're clearly A: A newfag because you don't know not to multi-post B: A teenager because you know absolute squat fucking dick about anything C: Inundated from good sense and understanding by being from an absolute nothing country which even your own neighbors forget exists most days I'm done babysitting the latest plebbit tourist and sageing your shit thread. Reminder that you need to be 18 to post here and should lurk for at least a year before you even reply, let alone dare to make your own thread about your shit opinions.
Jace Watson
wrong on all counts, go away stupid incompetent troll teenager. I'm twice your age if you are 18. And i know what i talk about unlike you. I got no time for your bs, rectify your behaviour or i will cease to reply to you.
Easton White
Europe needs a Germanic Reich and a Germanic Army. That would show both the mutts and the slavs
>Europe needs a Germanic Reich and a Germanic Army. That would show both the mutts and the slavs We need to be able to defend ourselves, we need to be able to defend poland, and also poland need to be able to defend itself from russia. It's an idiotic position to have that we expect USA to come in save our ass if russia push for poland or something after ukraine.. We simply need to be able to defend ourselves, because clearly russians are crazy enough to do this shit, and they have simply verified NATO should exist and should be even stronger defense alliance after this. THIS SHIT RUSSIA IS DOING SHOWS HOW MUCH WE NEED NATO, USA in it to help cause we can't help ourselves, and that is what should change.
Luke Lewis
I'm also saddened that putin did this, all this many decades that russia and europe relations having warmed up to trading with eachother and even being nicer and nicer, and he just ruin that in like a few weeks.. it's fucking stupid! but it is what it is. THE WHOLE POINT OF NATO ALLIANCE was that europe together strong if russia were to do shit like this. And then we fall asleep and think oh nothing to worry about russia never going to try this shit again. And HERE WE GO.. this what you get when you relax too much.
Jackson Adams
Fuck the EU. Fixit when?
Oliver Sanchez
> YO, GIBSMEDAT, WHITEY Your big nosed cousins in the military already have a significant fraction of every country's GDP, didn't do shit about any real threat and hadinf over more gibs and power to you won't improve anything.
Aaron Cooper
THANKS FOR INVOLVING US IN WWI AND WWII
OH BOY WWIII DON'T WORRY EVROPA WE'RE COMING TO SAVE THE DAY AGAIN
>Fuck the EU. Fixit when? I agree with that too, EU need to be reformed, and the main purpose should be trade and military alliance, not this beaureaucrat idiots in bruxelles who turn it into something else.
Jackson Roberts
>THE WHOLE POINT OF NATO ALLIANCE was that europe together strong if russia were to do shit like this The whole point of NATO is to institutionalize the vassal state of Europan countries in regards to the US. The muh NATO meme made most of European countries disband what they have of military units in order to better serve as expeditionary units in shitty US operations around the globe.