1. They immediately lose 10% of their total battery capacity permanently. Google “tesla range loss” if you don’t believe me. Tesla warranty only covers more than 30% capacity loss up to 100k miles so the average 10% loss within the first year (I lost it within the first 3000 miles) is completely within spec. 2. Cold weather destroys range. So if you live in the north expect to lose about 33% of your range on days the temp drops below 40 degrees. 3. Driving faster than 60 to 65 mph destroys range. If you drive 80 mph expect to get about about 75 miles using 50% of your battery capacity. Get ready to be cursed regularly on the freeway if you drive 65 mph. 4. You’re instructed to not charge it to more than 80% capacity or let it drop below 20% capacity or it damages the battery. So you really only have 60% of the capacity to work with. 5. Real world range is 66% of whatever the battery shows. If my battery says I have 198 miles to 0% that means I have 132 real miles. 6. Supercharging is 90% as expensive as gasoline and damages your battery and takes more than an hour. 7. Anything that heats up the battery is bad for its health. Ie supercharging, parking the car in the sun, doing multiple fast launches.
So take my “long range” tesla which has 330 miles range new. It lost more 10% of that range within 2 months of ownership and now shows 290 miles range at 100% charge. Furthermore I’m not supposed to charge it to 100% or let it drop below 20% so my range is now 60% of 290 miles so something like 180 miles. Also real world mileage is 2/3 of that range so I only get something like 120 miles usable range which means I can’t drive further than 60 to 75 miles away from home.
Teslas are a shallow branding ploy, in hindsight. They're made to appear like they're cutting edge technology made by the brightest minds who conceive of things you couldn't possibly understand. In reality, as with most things, this is nothing but a branding ploy. The same thing happened with the inclusion of computers into most cars, which actively damage functionality and make your vehicle less reliable, costing the consumer more over time to repair or to replace.
Asher Jones
>They're made to appear like they're cutting edge technology made by the brightest minds who conceive of things you couldn't possibly understand. >costing the consumer more over time to repair or to replace Pretty much the Apple playbook. Make shiny. Make good.
Evan Russell
The only people around me that drivrle teslas are middle aged indian men and basedbeard faggots
William Harris
TSLA shareholder btfo
Luis Morales
theyre just like the fucking Iphone. Cool futuristic toy that the US consumers can flex on their friends
Nicholas Russell
Summarizing the electric motor with 90% efficiency is the best, the batteries are garbage.
Ryder Howard
>2. Cold weather destroys range. So if you live in the north expect to lose about 33% of your range on days the temp drops below 40 degrees. Because of have the heating on... same happens with gas
Jacob Ward
no it's because the cold slows down the chemical reaction the batter. Also in a gas car the heater uses extra heat form the motor so gas millage is not effected much by the heater running.
Parker Collins
I'd only buy an electric car if the battery was easily replaceable at a cheap price. Resell value on current generation Tesla has to be abysmal (assuming the buyers arent stupid)
Jace Ortiz
What really matters is a 10 year TCO (total cost of ownership). All of the negatives of electric cars are true, and they are still subsidized by taxpayers.
Isaac Brooks
tesla is a meme car
David Foster
>6. Supercharging is 90% as expensive as gasoline and damages your battery and takes more than an hour.
why dont they have removable batteries, then it doesnt matter how long it takes to charge or how long the battery lasts. Along highways you could have battery changing stations, have a fast pit stop style change done by machine in box like a carwash. In and out in 2 minutes and back on the highway. Your old battery gets charged up and put in someone elses car.
Eli Cook
>cold weather destroys range No duh. Batteries lose charge faster when it's cold. Idk the reason why but they do.
short answer is people are dumb. batteries are heavy and expensive and if someone touches across the terminals then bad jewjew happens and lets the magic smoke out. So manufactures just make it so dumb people can't touch it.
Brayden Murphy
Based, fuck degenerates.
Caleb Brown
Gas cars have a bunch of downsides too..listing this all off is meaningless.
You will never make a gas car roll using a portable emergency panel for instance.
James Ross
All Tesla drivers in my city drive like cunts, almost as bad as BMW drivers. And the fandom surrounding Tesla's is reaching capeshit levels.
Isaac Roberts
This was actually a very informative thread. For once, OP was not a homosex.
10 year tco is lower according to all figures/estimates/certifying bodies
Nothing goes wrong with the car bc there are few parts.
Liam Adams
Based retarded electric vehicle cucks
Ryder Rodriguez
wile in this case your right I don't like the idea of my car shutting down because someone in power didn't like my tweet.
Carson Gray
tesla batteries are massive they stretch the entire length of the vehicle driving a tesla you are perched on top of a lithium bomb
Hunter Fisher
Lets say that all this is true; do we even have an option? Oil is running out and electric vehicles still have better range than CNG cars so there's no reason to switch away from electric to CNG and even if we did start using CNG cars the natural gas that drives them is also running out.
We're just in this spot where we're getting resource scarcity shocks, this winter China had problems with access to coal, so did India and Europe had problems getting enough natural gas. These problems will just get bigger and bigger. Just think what will happen next year or the year after that.
I never liked that, how it's basically right under all the seats.
Gavin Edwards
ICE are NOT affected by running the heat. As heat is produced by the engines cooling system.
Luis Wright
Oil is not a finite resource.
Jeremiah Davis
Yes, because it is known, especially in Western Europe, that govs. keep on tightening the noose on ALL types of energy.
Thomas Hughes
>You will never make a gas car roll using a portable emergency panel for instance.
Ya I'll just fucking push it and get it a lot farther lmao
Samuel Wilson
It's disgusting how the same saboteurs turn shocked when energy is "scarce," when that was the intended goal.
Aaron Martinez
Can confirm. Owned a Ford Focus electric for 5 years. Every year the difference between stated range and actual range shrunk. Winter driving was piss poor, about 40% of capacity. Lots of problems with conventional battery dying is the car was not used for over a month.