I had a discussion with my co workers about Ukraine

They all said Russia is bad and Putin went crazy. I told them what he is doing is perfectly rational, since he doesn't want Ukraine to join the NATO or EU just as America wouldn't want Cuba or Mexico to become allied with Russia or China. I also said that its hypocritical to cancel russians since americans were never cancelled for starting wars in the middle east or Vietnam.

They told me, what America did was completely different because they had to fight terrorists and that what I say is stupid and I'm watching too much russian propaganda.

Why are normies so stupid? They're literally cattle

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Do your coworkers know you’re a memeflag
As in, do you have habits irl that are similar? I can see you being the type to wear a raid warrior larp mask inside of an office job

Normies aren't stupid, they just don't care.
And honestly, why should they? People always find a way, unless they can't.
The only real problem with normies is that they are vulnerable to higher powers slowly making life worse and worse. It's up to us to help out when that happens.

Honestly, I think this is a you problem. You shouldn't be talking about politics with anyone unless it's directly tied to something urgent and tangible (e.g. circumcision). If you want to redpill someone, it's best to lead out through your actions. If they ever ask for advice or your input, then you can tell them why you do something. Keep your political arguments at a single-issue level. Normies don't care about patterns much.

Fuck off Putin bot you idiots have no idea how shit Russia is.

>just as America wouldn't want Cuba or Mexico to become allied with Russia or China
yeah, but that'd never, ever, ever, justify a US invasion of Cuba or Mexico, at all, in no way whatsoever.
You don't blame the victim in this war just because the aggressor was afraid of an imaginary NATO/EU 'threat' when Putin himself built up troops at the border for months and finally stormed Ukraine. Is that so hard to understand or do you need a drawing made for you?

> Why are normies so stupid?
> Actually believes this is about Ukraine joining NATO and not about the huge natural resources in Ukraine that Russia _assumed_ was theirs.
Memeflags, not even once.

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OP normies are hopeless move on
I fucking hate Irish faggots

>it wouldn't justify it
Doesn't mean US wouldn't do it (Iraq, Syria) nor that people now crying over Ukraine (reddit, twitter) wouldn't support it if media told them to.

>Doesn't mean US wouldn't do it
who cares, that's not what the thread is about.

Calling out western hypocrisy is exactly what the thread is about.

Russia is God's instrument to devastate freemasonry and globohomo. Step out of Vlad Putin's way or get stepped on

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>memeflag
>turbonigger

Checks out

if they are so shit, why are you so worried, toilet cleaner?

Turn to Jesus. These are the end times

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They were right

So instead of talking to them, you came here to make a thread about your coworkers?

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Well that does it. I guess I'm anti Russian now. I don't want to be a memflag raid warrior larper. Boy you got me.

Putin is rational but you are unironically a traitor if you support him. He has *his* reasons for acting the way he does. His interests are not ours.

Cope harder ausrag.

The Kikes just want to ditch the golems. They hate us, that’s why they are doing it. They sacked the USA and are moving to China now. Russia is a tool to 6uild it 6ack 6etter.

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we don't have any interests because our zog governement doesn't support us.
It doesn't matter which side you take, really.

Finally a voice of reason.
I know that me and fellow countrymen have a natural hateboner for Russia - so listen to this guy.
It's like supporting black racists because racists are based even though they are racist toward you.

Doof Gooye.

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I would for start by explaining that you have an advanced understanding of geography, history and culture and that you spend a lot of time thinking and speaking about these things.

Then give your opinion.
Then expect for them to say agree.
Followed by, "Yeah but Putin is bad and Ukraine is going to / needs to win."

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Don't discuss this with normies, they are out for blood. Every year that passes they get more and more neurotic about [current cause]

ok, but you're speaking an imaginary hypothetical, ffs. Stick to real facts: Russia built up its troops by the Ukrainian border and decided to raid it, just like that. You're going to blame Ukraine for wishing to join the EU and NATO? Really? That justifies a military invasion? Do you even realize how that justifies exactly what Ukraine wished to do? Putin proved that Ukraine was right.

It wouldn't justify it, but you would support it. All that would have to happen is for the US to "restore democracy" to that country, for the Chinese to counter-coup, then the US would claim the government is illegitimate and dictatorial and that the people of Cuba or Mexico need liberation from their Chinese overlords, and you, like 75% of the country, would love it.

80% of the western population has been moved into a Cyborg Hive Mind. Their ability for critical thinking, detachment, objectivity and rationality has been erased. What used to be their minds and thoughts have been scooped out and replaced by whatever virtual reality The System wants them to experience. They have been moved from the Trump to Covid to Trucker to Ukraine virtual realities so far by the Cyborg Hive Mind Controllers. The 20% of the population which resists against this Hive Mind needs to become aware of what they are struggling against, to understand the reality of what is actually happening.

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What he did was fucking stupid. He should have into the Rebel controlled regions and declared independent countries. He could have used that as a buffer zone between Russia and NATO.

Instead he went full retard and fucked his country into the ground.

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But you don't seem to understand that what the west is doing is just a perfectly rational response, since NATO doesn't want Ukraine to be occupied/puppeted by russia. You're just another breed of cattle if you can't see this, and I say this as someone who hates mutts for Afghanistan, Iraq II, arab spring, syria etc and am happy that many of them got blown up over there.
>I also said that its hypocritical to cancel russians since americans were never cancelled for starting wars in the middle east or Vietnam.
That's just the benefit of being the biggest guy around the block, Russia could have tried to cancel the US if it felt like it had the ability. "Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must."

I am honoured to be a traitor of globohomo

You should be comparing it directly to the Cuba missile crisis it's the easiest way for normies to understand. They can't think in big concepts but a lot know about JFK and the Ctuban missile crisis.

>imaginary hypothetical
Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, the list is long user.

>but you would support it
I've never supported a single war in my 47 year-long lifetime, so don't speak for me, FUCK YOU.

Ukranians shit up the internet less, so I'm rooting for them.

Ukraine also built up forces next to Donbass and decided to bomb it.
> You're going to blame Ukraine for wishing to join the EU and NATO? Really? That justifies a military invasion?
Threatening to procure nuclear weapons to attack Russia is.

Amigo, se gostas tanto do Putin vai para a Russia. Vá, desanda.

>They can't think in big concepts but a lot know about JFK and the Ctuban missile crisis.
Maybe boomers, but I doubt western zoomer and millennials do.

>Normies aren't stupid, they just don't care.

They would if they weren't so stupid though

>to attack Russia is.
liar

If normies are cattle (they are), then you must become a shepard in order to move them away from the path to destruction they are on. Or usher them into the slaughterhouse for your own amusement and prophet. As a thinking man, that is your choice.

>The Vatnik attempts to weaken his enemies by sowing discord and confusion.

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cope seethe dilate

I have given up trying to engage with them.
I hope they all die.

Cope seethe dilate

haha, até sonhas com a pila do Putin na peida!

>my coworkers are cattle for wanting Americans to kill innocents
>me no, I am no cattle. I believe Russians should kill innocents too
So tired of these opinions trying to make America the bad guy, when Russia invading Ukraine, not when America was invading

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What does it have to do with your country? You live in the middle of nowhere.

It literally would, and did. Ever hear of the Bay of Pigs incident?

You will never replace the role the talking heads on television and universities have. Thinking somehow you will become a authoritative voice in the minds of normies and lead them away from globohomo is delusion.

why are you faggot?

>zogbot brings up his gay fetishes out of nowhere

>Why are normies so stupid? They're literally cattle
what happens when you've become to hate the goys too? The behavior of normalfags today is terrifying. They aren't capable of thinking or having a rational discussion anymore. My own family members, it's horrible. They're only capable of repeating the blatant brainwashing from the television.

Either a russian shill or a complete retard. Either way, why don't you kill yourself. Russia's policy objectively is bad and Putin apparently went crazy.

It's low on niggers and faggots get arrested. Already makes it better than any western country

>Russia's policy objectively is bad and Putin apparently went crazy.
What should he have done? Allow ukraine to genocide the russian minority? Allow Ukraine to join NATO and have NATO troops deep inside Ukraine? Allow NATO to station missiles on Ukraine?

yes, and it was not justified