Jacindabros what happened

Jacindabros what happened...

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Whore

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She is. Sold out NZ to China, gagging on Xi's cock for trade deals, betraying five eyes and weakening national security in the region. She is an average leader but utterly hopeless ok foreign policy and international relations. It's not like she's done anything good anyway

seymourbros...

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She cant solely be blamed. The witch Helen Clarke made New Zealand the shithole it is today, take pity on kiwis they know not what they do

Lmao cope more

>betraying five eyes
and that's a good thing

NZ has been poor since 1969

it's over for the chinese protectorate of new xi land

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Hello, Zhang.

NZ has been suspended from ANZUS since 1985, we owe you nothing

How is it over? National has always been in China's pocket too

NZ needs 20-30 million people.
Sorry, reality. It makes no economic sense to have such a remote island with so few people when it can host so many more.

>It makes no economic sense
I don't think you understand the point of countries

what about us?

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What about you?

This.

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do you owe us anything?

No

Good thing Australia can easily annex New Zealand if you get too far gone with Chinese kowtowing

>annex NZ
>become poorer
>become dumber
>have to deal with whiny kiwis
yeah nah

We have to deal with that anyway mate, the amount of Kiwis fleeing to here should be called a humanitarian crisis

its time to conduct a special military operation on the fleeing kiwi cowards, no?

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Not sure why you were foolish enough to sign the free movement agreement, you are the dumping ground for our surplus population

who gives a fuck about new zealand's foreign policy lol

what's china gonna do, stick a gulag on stewart island?

Keep the women and the maoris, send the seething whinging kiwis men back to seethe and simp for jacinda
more like the brain drain for all the smart and strong kiwis, you'll be nice and soft for when we take you

>more like the brain drain for all the smart and strong kiwis,
Smart ones are already making money here, you are just getting maoris and bogans to work as scaffolders and in the mines

>what's china gonna do, stick a gulag on stewart island?
We used to stick Maori prisoners on the Chatham islands during the wars

>Smart ones are already making money here
theyre making money in America like all the worlds smart people. We are just the leftovers

/aus/bros stay winning

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it's even worse if you look at the 2 party prefered

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Smart ones go to England or the US if they want to make money kek, not Australia

Doesn't your economy usually boom under labour?

scomobros...

dont give me hope

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yeah i was saying it was over for lib-cels
it's SCOMOVER Morricels
internal lib polling in NSW was 59/41 in labor's favour and that was before the flloods it's so unbelievably over for morrison it's unreal

Labour in Aus are way better than ours, we haven't elected a Male labour leader since 1987

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yes labor economic policies have made Australia economically sounder but dont tell anyone that goes against the narrative that libs are better economic managers.

desu that meme was propped up by a decade of Howard and the mining boom and after the last 9 years of Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison fuckups i think it's finally been shot, burried and put to rest for good
why does NZ labor suck so much

Lads is the WA border open for foreigners yet?

> i think it's finally been shot, burried and put to rest for good
Unfortuantely not bro. I was at X-mas party talking to a nice older bloke on random topics vietnam war, iran tourism and then Aus politics. He managed to say the phrase exactly "the liberals are better economic managers" it was quite funny i thought it was just a meme to but never underestimate a well pushed narrative.
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Why does Australia have so many memorable politicians like Hawke, Keating, Rudd and Katter but New Zealand has none? Why are they so boring?

Fair shake of the sauce bottle mate

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>why does NZ labor suck so much
The party absolutely blitzed through economic reforms from 1984 to 1988 then in 1988 there was a major fight between the economic rationalists and the PM who was to cowardly carry on and the rationalists got kicked out of the party and then it was just dominated by maoris, trade unionists, and liberal academics while any working class men or actually economically sound people got pushed out then in 1996 things got messier with the introduction of MMP

I mean amongst the brain dead boomer populous who got rich off the Howard era housing boom of course they're going to have that mentality rusted on, but from gen-x down i think that myth is pretty much dead so it's basically just a matter of waiting for the boomers to die off from liver cirrhosis and diabetes and we can put it to bed for good

Jacinda is their best political export or at least most known. she manged to get on an American Late Night show (somehow)
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The answer could simply be NZ doesnt have an ambitious enough foreign policy that gets their Leaders seen on the world stage or perhaps leaders arent foolish enough to get mocked like ours
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We do have them but it's like how only nzers know aus politicians but not the other way round then how aussies know American politicians but Americans don't know yours

Have a 4 hour doco about nz politics circa 1984-1996
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I want to beat the shit out of every leftwing faggot in this country

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I hate John Oliver and his shitty TV show but fuck me I forgot how dogshit a PM abbot was, it's no wonder his own party rolled him not even 2 years after he was elected

They made a doco about Sir Rob and they were so biased they literally called "The Grim face of Power" youtu.be/mkKlNfzw7Sw

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I don't know a single American politician

john oliver has talked about NZ before
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from 08-17 our centre right government was conservative, quiet, and component with zero sandals and Sir John resigned as PM because he got bored and they would have won the 2017 election also if it wasn't for jacinda being put in as leader and the media worshiping her

fucking horse

not for national security it isn't. nz needs aus and the usa to protect it. china cannot and would not be reliable in that role anyway (why would they care about a small client nation who isn't chinese?)
the main thing is ethnic affinity with the rest of the anglosphere that means we're all treated relatively generously by amerikkka and much better off.

australia was also getting close to china, playing both sides as you should, but they were really abusive and basically wanted a subservient client relationship (which means no playing both sides and no acting in our interests) so we're back fully with amerikkka now.

>zero scandals

UUHHM ACSHYUALLY THEY GOT SUED BY EMINEM BECAUSE THEY USED THE "LOSE YOURSELF" INSTRUMENTALS IN AN AD

and australia needs a good 100 million

remember when they tried to make an entire political arc out of Kim Dotcom

how many peope can Australia hold max
I wanna say 35-40 million before society collapses

>maori party
do kiwis really?

i think that's probably our upper limit, assuming that's spread throughout the country. Our capital cities are basically at capacity at the moment, lord knows how the fuck Sydney and Melbourne are going to accomodate another 3 million pajeets, zhangs and lebs
We could probably hit 40 million fairly comfortably if we developed north-east queensland a little more, there's like half a dozen minor cities up there which could easily be expanded upon but it would require a huge infrastructure investment and job opportunities

can flood plenty of pajeets into regional vic/nsw/qld with continued development

nz labour is the least shit labour party in the anglosphere desu

no aus labour is far better

lads what about WA surely all that land isnt just useless, its up to us to solve it

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if you had proportional representation abos would have their own party as well

Just build new cities, or expand existing towns. Australia has plenty of space. The vast majority of your population is concentrated in 5 cities.

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New Zealand NEEDS 100 million people and to become the Japan of the south

>"they would all be south east asians and indians and chinks"
I said people

I always wondered why the population center isn't in the north
it has a habitable climate and is closer to the rest of the world

its damned hot, white men can't survive in the tropics before AC

plainly false in every way shape and form, Australian labor is the shining example of what every left wing party should aspire to be in life
everything outside of the south-west of WA is basically desert so unless you
a. enjoy 50 degree summers
b. have a magic weather machine that can terraform and alter the climate of the north
there's not really much you can do with it besides dig up rocks out there
They're concentrated there for a reason, believe it or not Australia doesn't have the best water security

Its hot and humid and wet. anglos arent meant to be in such ungodly conditions

>Sold out NZ to China
If you think Labour did that, then wait for National to do it. Selling the country out boosts econometric memes, so they'll do it to claim le growing economy.
>The party absolutely blitzed through economic reforms from 1984 to 1988 then in 1988
Those neolib """economic rationalist""" faggots ruined the economy for decades to come. Those rats are all in ACT now.

i don't even want to imagine, your ancestors made some errors for the sake of future rugby performances

Funnily enough though the climate in North Queensland isn't that different to the climate in the southern American gulf states and two of those states are in the top 3 most populous states in the country
There's no reason we can't develop north/central queensland to be the new backbone of Australia

>ruined
NZ is on every single measure better off economically now than before 1984

the LNP did the same thing throughout the late 90's/2000's (and even in the mid 2010s) in Australia but because Kevin Rudd knew Mandarin and wanted to have good relations with China ever since 2007 it's been "omg labor is going to sell Australia to the CHICOMS"

it isn't useless, it's for digging shit out of the ground so schoolkids can use ipads

Where are you going to get these people from suddenly? Much easier to dripfeed the best and braindrain other countries over time. As long as our government actually plans for the fucking future and builds/incentivises the infrastructure.

crushing the maoris was no longer possible after 1870 when imperial troops pulled out the wars and the colonial government didn't have the money to continue them

how come your economic reformists fucked up the country so badly while Paul Keating managed to basically turn Australia from a soon to be latin american tier minerals and agriculture economy into a 1st world nation despite our tiny population

i dunno, they seem like the least electorally successful of the 3 + i couldn't name many achievements of rudd/gillard other than the banter of having more leadership spills than election wins. i guess they got workchoices to fuck off?
not saying NZ labour is amazing, but i can think of lots of nice little things they've done like railway nationalisation that the ALP wouldn't do, or would do the opposite of (didn't they sell off Queenslandrail in like 2010?).

both better than UK labour or anything out of canada, mind you.

>your economic reformists fucked up the country
they didn't and it was a job half done(although we started from a very very regulated semi socialist economy and had no natural resources to help us along) , labour imploded after 8 years and the nats got stuck when MMP started and they now had to form coalitions
rail nationalisation was fucking useless and just a favour to the left wing alliance party as part of the coalition

Rudd did some pretty good stuff it's just his tenure was overshadowed by the rudd/gillard/rudd backstabbing fiasco. The NBN could have been his swan song but Malcolm Turnbull ruined it because in his mind no one in the future would ever need internet speeds faster than 50mb/s so why should we pay for gigabit ethernet to every home?
Labor would have been a lot more electorally successful postwar if it weren't for the god damn DLP and their mick brigade but there's not much you can do about that

Maybe in the future Australia will be whites in the South and SEA/Indians/Chinamen in the North with a blend in the middle, that would be funny.

if anything it would be the opposite
The moment wogs/lebs/chinks/pajeets/africans/etc. get the chance they move from queensland on a one way ticket to Sydney or Melbourne

I spent two minutes reading a wikipedia article, seems they put up a decent fight. guess they earned it

For some reason they were seen as the best of all the coloured races but they only fought well because they had guns 20 years before Britain even took over the country

That's because that's where the money is at the moment, maybe in the future if we somehow manage to elevate some of these poor creatures to live off their own merits they won't need to come to white areas. But then again they might just stay in their own countries in the first place.

Excessive lockdown measures

No shit, but these past decades cucked our present potential. Rogernomics ruined growth when it was supposed to do the opposite. Turned a socialist party into a rich nonce party until Helen pointed it out that it obviously flopped and got elected on that empirical observation. How Labour let a fifth column into itself is strange as fuck.
They were choking on too much Reagan/Thatcher cock and thought big private sector = easy money. Just deregulate and deflate, bro. What could go wrong?
Funniest part is that the 1987 stock market crash caused investors to stop buying shares and start buying property like houses... hmmmmm... I wonder why the housing market is so fucked to begin with.

What the fuck are you talking about? should we have not floated the dollar? or cut tariffs? or corporatized state industries? or moved to indirect taxation with the GST and broad based low rate model for income taxes? or not opened up to foreign investment? or tomorrows schools programs? or implemented inflation targeting from the central bank? The old system was just crony capitalists and local monopolists making excess profits off protected markets. Alan Gibbs was able to pay the Japanese to disassemble cars then ship him the parts so he could reassemble in a south auckland factory and then on sell it and huge profits. It was a mad system. The entire export base was subsidized and had no diversification of product. In fact Helen Clark allowing the creation of Fonterra going against the commerce commission law on monopolies has lead our main exporter to be a lazy giant that gets fuck all returns.

I think we're just going to have to take your independence off you desu, that's the only solution.

>Where are you going to get these people from suddenly?
White people need to start having more kids

>Much easier to dripfeed the best and braindrain other countries over time
no one even remotely skilled is coming to fucking New Zealand
the ONLY people we get are the one's who couldn't get into Australia

>As long as our government actually plans for the fucking future and builds/incentivises the infrastructure
will literally never happen

watch this doco series, NZ was a fucking bizzare country youtube.com/watch?v=JZXpeUQ0tD8 we even had the population declining in the 70s and 80s because of how badly the place was run

Because you cunts have all the resources in the fucking world and we don't have shit

>In fact Helen Clark allowing the creation of Fonterra going against the commerce commission law on monopolies has lead our main exporter to be a lazy giant that gets fuck all returns.
Helen Clarke is a witch. I will say until the day i die

>or not opened up to foreign investment?
Go back, Zhang.
>crony capitalists
Redundant term.
>local monopolists
As long as she'll do the job, she'll be good. Rat race fags vying for competition and the dollar can slave away in America.

Genuinely and non-ironically hope new zealand gets nuked

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What was Robert Muldoon like as PM?