So, let me get this straight. According to Putin Ukraine is not a legitimate state and has no right to exist because for most of it's history Ukraine was under the rule of Moscow.
But on that logic neither Australia, New Zealand, Canada or America deserve to be independent states either, we should all be part of the British Empire.
This dude is living in the past.
Nice masonic pointer picture. I've seen a lot of them here recently. A post from 20 minutes ago has Biden covering his eye. What are you guys up to?
ukraine was fabricated by diplomats not long ago, and it's not legitimate because it's not independent.
>But on that logic neither Australia, New Zealand, Canada or America deserve to be independent states either, we should all be part of the British Empire.
yes.
He has to employ some level of mental gymnastics because his real reason for invading is based on fear of the West.
>Ukraine provides buffer between Russia & NATO forces
>Ukraine expresses interest in joining NATO
>Russia reacts in the same way the U.S. reacted to its neighbor Cuba falling to the enemy side with its failed Bay of Pigs invasion
History doesn't really repeat, but it does rhyme. Putin isn't illogical, he's just motivated by fear.
>But on that logic neither Australia, New Zealand, Canada or America deserve to be independent states either
Yes that’s right
>because it's not independent
>Not in the EU
>Not part of the Russian Federation
How so?
US puppet state
It only exists to funnel money into foreign politicians' hands at the expense of the already suffering ukrainian (lesser Russian) population. You know zelenskiy became a multi-billion aire after taking the presidential seat, right? And all if that money is going OUT of Ukraine and into his offshore accounts. That's the only reason anybody gives a shit about Ukraine
>But on that logic neither Australia, New Zealand, Canada or America deserve to be independent states either, we should all be part of the British Empire.
This but unironically.
Come home white man
Youre in NATO. Does that make you a US puppet state?
yes
So? The only measure of whether a country should be independent is whether it's people want to be independent. And Ukraine's people do plainly want that.
No one buys this autistic history textbook lawyering
WTF? Since when does a penal colony get access to the internet???
No thanks, I'm not an *ngl*id
we are all American client states, yes. Did you not get the memo in 1945?
And so the netherlands have no right to exist then. Right?
Lol Let me explain how Putin is such a faggot.
In 2000, I thought Putinhomo was pretty cool.
He was making Russia better than the gulagistan USSR, and I thought he was an ally to economic prosperity worldwide.
When Medvedev took over, only for Putinhomo to be shadow czar, people noticed and had serious questions about it. Putin and his friends were too powerful, and Pussy Riot et al. was right to call him out on it.
After BP and Russia had a falling out over corruption in 2011, people had questions about Putin the fucking faggot.
In 2012, Russia voted against Putinhomo and he lost to the other candidate.
He said their votes didnt count.
People all over Russia protested. Thousands are still in jail and more are being silenced every day.
When Ed faggot Snowden defected in 2013 with literally all of the United States secrets to Russia, Putinhomo saw it as a golden opportunity to be top dog of shit mountain, meaning he doesnt care if the world sucks, Putinhomo just wants to rule it. Hes gay.
In 2014 he had the Sochi olympics and used it as a power play to take Crimea next door from Ukraine because Yanukovich was Putins crony and the Ukranian people voted him out.
Russia does not have a warm water port, so having a black sea penninsula would help Putin project naval power.
Putin is so gay he shot down MH-17 on july 17 2014, a passenger airline, killing 300 civilians, during the invasion, very well documented.
Since then, Putin has employed thousands of people to post on Any Forums and other sites to propagandize his reign as a good thing. Unsuccessfully.
Good People of Russia have continued to protest him, and Navalny has lead that opposition.
Putin tried to poisin Navalny unsuccessfully.
Based Navalny is in prision now because he nor anyone else fears Putin.
When Putin dies this year, maybe tomorrow, Russia will move forward and become a good country free of shit. And nothing Putin can say about this matters.
it's not autistic because ukraine's government was not elected, even if democracies weren't a scam. Of course ukrainian people want to be independent but neither the west nor russia will let that happen.
netherlands wasn't cooked up in cold war, but yeah in old school democratic terms the dutch government is also not legitimate, mostly EU and globalist sanctioned stooges. first day?
>netherlands wasn't cooked up in cold war
Irrelevant.
>he doesn't want to live under the united anglosphere, constantly shitposting each other as we rule over the plebs
honestly biggest missed opportunity in history. burgers could have been playing cricket with us but instead they have their faggy baseball
>he fears the nato
yea you fucking retard, that's what he has been saying for a decade if not longer
who the fuck would want nukes across their yard?
stupid mutt
it's not because a nation is its people, not its government or diplomatic agreed borders. You seem to imply that "no right to exist" means it should be glassed, but that's not what either side in conflict is talking about. Either way we are a subjugated people like the rest of europe
It is a commanding gesture. I use it from time to time without pointing to whatever entity these faggots mean to.
>it's not because a nation is its people
And somehow Ukraine isn't?
of course it's the same for Ukraine. What are you even arguing about? Putin says Ukraine is not a legitimate state not that its people need to be genocided.