Why the fuck do “civilized” nations allow staple goods to be treated as tokens to invest and speculate in?

Why the fuck do “civilized” nations allow staple goods to be treated as tokens to invest and speculate in?

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Because the alternative is to control prices and production directly which will just disincentivize anyone from doing it at all.

That makes no sense. I can buy water at the grocery store, multiple varieties, price isn’t set by the government. Jews don’t have imaginary water tokens that they can use to pad their nest eggs and make water unattainable for the average person. Something isn’t adding up

Unironically fpbp. Burgerbo is right, it's about control.
Imagine being able to push a button and cause 2 billion people to starve. That's what's happening right now.

the US grain belt exports billions of busheld of grains, the US is grain independent. pricd increases here are artificial. we are also 85% oil indepdndent, there is zero excuse for price increased because only 3% of that remaining 15% comes from russia. domestically there is no valid reason for price increases.

no it isn't retard
>t.commodities trader

You are correct. There Would be no valid reason if Biden didn't stop funding oil and gas exploration projects. It will not just be us in the EU, but also the US middle class who will suffer greatly.

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>shit talking
confirmed big agro shill

>noone will want to do it if vultures can't speculate on it

People produced it for thousands of years, simp

>Why

you know the answer goy

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are you suggesting to ban the purchase of wheat? cause everything that can be bought and has a fluctuating price can and will be used for speculation.

>it’s speculation
>not inflation and oil sanctions
>it’s not fertilizer
Your brain on leftism.

>no valid reason
Profiteering isn't a valid reason?

To add, China and Russia are not exporting wheat. Goodness, you all should pipe down.

heads up on (((commodity trading))) shills, where were they ~15 years ago to call us "retards" for letting Bush convince us to make fuel oils from corn if "commodities are price locked"? we didnt have trouble making our own cheap fuel and food for ourselves until now, but if you notice this inexcuseable discrepancy youre "retarded".

Btw you people pushed for war with the worlds leading wheat exporter. Now you’re paying the toll. You want more communism. I dislike both sides soooo much. Most of all, normal people have no clue why all of this is happening and they blame it on “speculation.”

That's actually not true at all. They've designed a system currently where trillions of dollars of hedge fund cash cash can just slush in and out of these markets for no reason. It raises the price of real goods and they are not actually involved in delivering or receiving the commodity they are just involved in speculating on the price

You have zero understanding of basic economics. The alternative to this is a planned commie economy.

That’s called inflation. From fiat currencies. From banks.

ukraine/russia account for 50% of all wheat in the world, and russia just got sanctioned by idiot NATO countries.

You can also invest and speculate on water you fucking retard.

>dont benefit off the labor of others

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most retards on Any Forums do. the reason a commodities contract exists is so the farmer and the businesses don't get screwed in price fluctuations.

Because you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Smoke wheat everyday lmao

Because water is very local and typically not even that expensive to get. Anyone with a spare $5k can dig a well and start pumping out as much water as they want. Your questions is basically asking why people are allowed to trade wheat, which is such a retarded question I don't think anyone could even give an answer you'd understand.

>domestically there is no valid reason for price increases
decreasing the world's supply if grain increases the prices for any system connected to the world supply. The price increases are coming from exported grain. If exporting wheat were illegal you would have a great point.

kek based madlad under english oak
>cancel the big agro bank accounts for attacking american families, since you just taught the world you can do that
TPTB were dealt an unbeatable hand but played it incompetently.

They aren't imaginary tokens you fucking retard. They are futures contracts for actual goods at determined prices. Every large business in the world actively is trading these thousands and millions of times a day to obtain the best deal they can get on goods they require.

Uh no it's not actually? It doesn't even make sense

Why the fuck should I sell grain to you when I can get a better price in Singapore, China, Egypt, or wherever?
Freedom includes free market Capitalism

Because you have no clue how money works or markets for that matter. Sit down and read something.

if the hedge fund cash slushes in and out without taking delivery, then the net impact on price should be 0 over the long run. Look at the commitment of traders reports and see how it's commercial demand and supply that moves commodity prices. Speculators are just there to close the spread.

So you think that Russian exports vanishing won't result in increasing demand for American exports?

>treated as tokens to invest and speculate in?
Because how else do you determine the value of a thing? Fixing prices leads to shortages - supply and demand system collapses.

Would communism fix this? Ask the Holols

This is why republicans get the rope alongside liberals.

big agro firewall coming soon to protect american families manu countries are already blocking grain exports.

the only rope you're going to see is around your own neck when you join the 41% tranny

basic supply and demand too hard for grug to understand, ask him about niggerball and he's an expert.

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thats what you tell us we have to think.

You don't know that hedge funds can borrow money from banks that create it at will and then speculate on an asset, pushing pushing price up?

if biden blocks grain exports in US, democrats will be wiped out off the senate

How? Are you a socialist or something? NatSoc perhaps?

Russia and Ukraine together are between 15 and 30% of the world exported wheat, corn, and liquid petrol products

>there is no valid reason for price increases.
any reason that the producer of something decides is a justification for raising the price of their product is valid. unless youre a commie that thinks you have the authority to enslave them by dictating the price of their product for no particular reason

lol no, americans don't give a shit about other americans. protectionism and tariffs are taboo.

The only alternative to this is hardcore commie planned economy. This is econ 101, which you would have taken if you weren't an underage nigger loving faggot larping on Any Forums

lol who cares. nobody eats wheat anymore, this isn't the fucking 1600s

(Don't worry, I'm merely pretending to be retarded.)

add to the fact that fertilizer is in short supply world wide and natural gas is a key component to making it.

>Humanity produces wheat for thousands of years, starting before even having spoken and written language
>But somehow Mr. Gobblehead is just following some intrinsic law of nature by speculating over the price of staple goods
>Then Hans defends this as law of nature even though he lives in the land of subsidies

The alternative is a planned economy.
We all know how well this works.

>basic supply and demand

muh free market retards

i love those

This is why these cunts get raped by kikes and chinks.They never understand how the real world works.

>muh Jews
Holy fuck why do you financelets think you can’t buy commodity futures just as easily as Schlomo Goldstein can?

you engage in this very speculation every fucking day moron. if you see a disruption in fuel deliver due to a natural disaster you go and fuel up your car to lock in the current price and avoid being out of gas due to said disruption. either the disruption gets resolved or it gets worse, in any case you are set.

>People produced it for thousands of years, simp
feel free to grow as much as you want and give it away. what's stopping you?

YOU SANCTIONED RUSSIA. PAY THE TOLL. SUPPLY AND DEMAND. RUSSIA IS THE LEADING EXPORTER OF WHEAT IN THE WORLD.

>a massive percentage of the world's wheat supply basically disappears
>why are prices going up

>supply and demand didnt stop americans from making their own cheap grains for the last 15 years
>or cheap gas from corn oil
trust the shills! commodities must remain internationally price locked! ill call you a caveman until you accept price locking!
>i will make an appeal to supply and demand regarding US agriculture without admitting the US grain belt produces so many billions of bushels of grains that we throw away what livestock cant eat! even though it hasnt been true for decades, you now have to pay the same inflated international prices for your own goods! somehow an unlimited supply of grains did not lower the price as it has for generations, but i will brow beat you to imply price locking somehow results from S&D!

There's a shit storm coming. The government in Ireland has made it compulsory for all farmers to grow grains this year and as much as they possibly can.