Why isn't Russia sending T14 Armata to Ukraine?

Why isn't Russia sending T14 Armata to Ukraine?

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i forgot those existed kek

They don't have very many

they dont have the gas

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they won with 666gorillion conscripts
no supplies needed

>Why isn't Russia sending T14 Armata to Ukraine?
Same reason NATO isn't giving F35s to Ukraine

my guess is that they don't want one to break down, get taken out, or run out of fuel
the west would love to get their hands on one

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Because Ukraine is a bunch of impoverished cave-apes. Why would they deploy their most expensive assets there?

Because they are made from cardboard

Because they don’t wanna get their tank stolen by a guy riding a buggy or some shit.

They have only built 20 for testing purposes.

They only have 20 lulz

They would lose face if one got rekt.

expensive and its rocket defense system only has limited charges and the turret must be facing the rocket as its coming to unleash the explosive. So it could be taken down straight after the first javelin if they are smart enough to fire from behind the turret.

The ones you saw at the parade were the only ones and they were just prototypes.
The tank is ~5 years away from being issued.

real war, real tanks. meme war, meme tank

They have like 15.
They do however have 20000+ cold war era junk...

They are used to their railways.

Zero power outside there. You can drop the best guys with the best weapons anywhere. It serves nothing if they starve to death on their own.

>5th gen warfare
>using tanks
user... it's ok, plenty of downs people lead happy fulfilling lives.

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>The tank is ~15-20 years away from being issued.
Fixed for inflation and liquidity issues

>5
forgot a zero there kamerad, this is the russians we are talking about

from wikipedia:
"The Russian Army initially planned to acquire 2,300 T-14s between 2015 and 2020. Production and fiscal shortfalls delayed this to 2025, and then to the apparent cancellation of the main production run. However, as of 2021, the Armata was expected to begin serial production in 2022. A test batch of 100 is to be delivered and deployed to the 2nd Guards Tamanskaya Motor Rifle Division, with delivery expected to begin in 2022; tanks will be transferred only after the completion of all state tests."

Because they don’t actual work and all you’ve seen so far in news and military parades have been prototypes

>have 30,000 old tanks
>be aware of the OP anti-tank of your enemies
>send top quality tanks you have like 100 units

very wise

Because they have like 20-30 of these T-72s covered in new sheet metal.

Why isn't Ukraine using its navy to attack the Russians?

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>it's a money laundering tank.
It's not real.

>T14 Armata
>No. built 70 to 100 (anticipated)
Real life isn't Warthunder. You can't just have non-existent tanks and planes swarm the battlefield.

>Ukraine is a bunch of impoverished cave-apes. Why would they deploy their most expensive assets there
I see this sentiment alot. I'm not disagreeing with it, it does seem that russu is holding a lot back.
Could this be because they know this is going to be a bigger, more inclusive war?

Well, as some Dutch nigger said, if we give the Ukies 5000 NLAWs, and 20% hit their mark, that's a 1000 less Russian tanks

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they only have enough for parades

We're pretending to be retarded and bad at war to bait NATO into WWIII.

>Could this be because they know this is going to be a bigger, more inclusive war?
Or maybe they're just fucking retarded and they thought they'd be in Kiev in 2 days.

because they do not exist

That will be used to invade portugal, where the remaining 350 million europeans will be cornered after fleeing their countries as russia destroyed them.

because they only have 10 or 15

there's no need to send more tanks when ukes leave theirs behind
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ef7VATrCga4

They need it for later to free eastern-europe from the nato regime.

would you use your best equipment on a bunch of nobodies?

This mad lad just waiting for such vehicle

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>durr, I'm just pretending
Sure thing, your whole nation has fetal alcohol syndrome

Armata is expensive.

Wave of 50 year old T-72 is not.

Because it's outmatched by the Russian navy.

>user actually thinks they have any meaningful numbers of any tank that isnt a t80 variant

russia's gdp is identical to texas' gdp
they don't have the money to build them

Z

Because Ukraine is a honeypot trap - a fucking killbox and the tarded, narcissistic leaders in the West are about to fall for it.

Then come the real troops and hardware and the West will get Dunkirked

All their ships were taken out in the first 24hrs

it's a logistics war, not a technological superiority showcase or a military parade contest

Baтник, иди нaхyй

Because Putin is too based to do that.

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Not worth it for hohols, you can defeat them with expendable soviet trash

>send top quality tanks you have like 100 units
20
They are planning 100 by the end 2022 but they've been doing that for last 7 years. And no new armatas metarialized.

To save their own soldier's lives and subdue Ukraine more quickly. The ruskies appear not to care about neither of those things. Another good reason is that they are saving their best and most expensive in case the war escalates, can't afford to lose even one of their armatas or su 57s if they want to have a chance against m1a2s or f-35/f-22s.

If a T14 got destroyed in this war, which would be likely because even the most modern tanks aren't immune to current weaponry, it would be plastered as the biggest piece of shit even if it wasn't.
Their military would stop being "hidden unknowns" and noone one will buy their weak aggression ever again. Best to pretend you're half arsing your invasion using all the cheap shit that is rusting anyway, which is basically similarly effective in such conflicts

Aren't there like less than 20 of them or something?
Next gen tanks confuse me in any case.
a 3rd gen MBT can wipe the floor with any shithole you would actually invade, what war will a 4th gen be used for?

I heard there is engine from t-34.
Russia cant into tanks.

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Why would they waste a multimillion dollar tank, which costs thousands of Russian lives, when Russia has had less than 500 casualties during this "war"?

>a 3rd gen MBT can wipe the floor with any shithole you would actually invade
Sure, a Leopard, or Abrams could, the T80 and 90 show no such capabilities, as seen in Ukraine

they have 8000 t72/780 variants to work through first.....

same reason we are still using f16 f18 f15 and not f22 and f35 only... RPW

Equipment wise they aren't really holding back, we've seen them lose plenty of expensive modern equipment mixed in with their soviet junk.
They just aren't using their brand new cardboard tanks that only exist for propaganda purposes.

What difference would it make? Their expensive toy would get blown up by a Javelin or NLAW.

>Can wipe the floor with
Perhaps in open conflict
Urban warfare they're sitting ducks

>Just two more weeks till we launch the real offensive

Waiting for air support to be wiped out. Duh. Fuckin retard.

>a 3rd gen MBT can wipe the floor with any shithole you would actually invade

lmao doesn't seem to be working out in ukraine though, those T90s can't even handle 40 year old anti-tank munitions

t80 is a t72 with superficial changes
t90 is literally t72 bolt for bolt!

u dumb nigger. t90 is a 40 year old tank. look up what the fuck the 90 is

Well judging by the situation they probably dont actually have any that work. Russian bureaucrats looks like they just faked all the production numbers and pocketed all the taxpayer rubles.

>when Russia has had less than 500 casualties during this "war"?
>trusting 100% in Russia's or Ukraine's numbers
ISHYGADT

1992 is not 40 years ago m8

I have seen 500 different corpses alone online, there's way more than that lmao.
This is a war of thousands of people not a fucking daycare center and Russia is attacking, which always yields higher losses. Stop eating Russian propaganda.

You dumb vatnik idiot, the T90 is the same gen as Leo II and Abrams

What's it supposed to fight against?
There are few if any MBT vs MBT engagements in Ukraine.
To do random not MBT-battle shit a much cheaper T-72 is enough.

do some research you fucktard

they are ALL t72. the only thing thats remotely upgraded is the t80BVM variant.

not the t80B or t80BM but the t80BVM only

Because they have 20 and they're all prototypes

AHAHAH you ignorant glow nigger.

educate yourself you stupid fag. t90 is the EXPORT version of the base t72 for the sand nigger countries.

T90 is an export version of a t72 by the way
But keep believing that while we watch them explode lmao

Why would they? They produced metric shitton of tanks during the cold war which are now causing them heaps of head-ache. Why not try getting rid of those first?

lmao that is some serious cope m8, why is it considered a third gen MBT then? Was the upgrade kit it recieved worthless, couldn't even stand up to anti-tank weapons from before it's era? What was the point of the upgrade?

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Because it is in reserve should NATO attack.

They don’t have any.

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its still broken

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>What was the point of the upgrade?
So that they could seethe on Any Forums it seems

and that reason is that they dont work
hypebeats that would get BTFO'd by 50 year old tech would make people lose faith

In the case of an MBT define "upgrade".
Russian post T-72 tank models definitely have more significant upgrades than virtually any western MBT design ever had.
You are aware many vehicles are built upon the T-72 chassis? Are these still un-upgraded T-72s? By your logic apparently they are.
>it's fairly similar in some ways so it's the same