Redpill me on why it was "Kiev" for all time and then last week suddenly became "Kyiv" and everyone acted like it was that way all along. I'm sure it's a psyop but what's the angle and why are normies adopting the new version without asking questions.
It's Київ, imagine calling things by their wrong name
Tyler Hall
hohols have been pushing Kiyv since 2014 but nobody really cared until now
Isaac Nelson
Why is /k/ like this?
Adam Bailey
Kyiv is in Ukrainian and Kiev is in Russian. Simple as
Jose Mitchell
Kiev is the Russian spelling and Kyiv is the Ukrainian spelling, it was a PR move for so many western countries and corporations to start using the Ukrainian spelling but I don't think they ever actually cared what foreigners used.
Christopher Nguyen
all my life i've been taught it's Kiev and everyone has been writing it that way
now, kiev redirects to kyiv i'm not picking sides here, i'm generally anti-war but i hate this rewriting of history
Noah Campbell
WE'VE ALWAYS CALLED IT "KYIV" WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTASIA
Angel Edwards
>Not just switching between the two to trigger normies and autists
Eli Davis
imagine speaking non-human.
Elijah Wright
It is pretty obnoxious especially since its coming from some kind of retarded virtue signaling angle instead of being someone they asked for.
Bentley Sanders
It's been Tolkien all along, you racist scum.
Jacob Long
KyivNotKiev is an online campaign started by the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) together with the 15 member center for strategical communications "StratCom Ukraine" on October 2, 2018. Its goal is to persuade English-language media and organizations to exclusively use Kyiv (derived from the Ukrainian language name) instead of Kiev (derived from the Russian language name) as the one true name of the Ukrainian capital.[1][2] It is a part of the wider campaign "CorrectUA".
After the revolution in 2014, the Ukrainian government released an "official" transliteration guideline for transliterating the Ukrainian alphabet into the English alphabet. Each letter in the Ukrainian alphabet resembles 1, 2, or 3 letters in the English alphabet (because they have more letters and sounds than you do). These guidelines, among other reasons, provided the "official" spelling of names on Passports, etc. So, after this guideline was released, certain places and names on passports needed to be updated for consistency. Changing Kiev to Kyiv was one of these.
The traditional way of spelling the city remains Kiev from the Russian alphabet. Because Russians don't have the ï character, it transliterates just a bit differently. So for this fact alone, it garners a fuckton of vain petty pride. "Kiev" = Russian shill, "Kyiv" = Ukrainian Shill
The plain, unemotional reality is, the city was named "Kiev" in English for a very, very long time. This name stuck throughout the Soviet Union, and remained into independent Ukraine. It only changed after the revolution, around the time Ukraine began destroying all USSR monuments, art, and statues in public and stuff. The modern spelling is new, and still so new that many old signs, brochures, etc still spell it as "Kiev".
Compare this to cities like Prague, which have 7 spellings. It's normal for a city to be spelled differently across different langues, or even the same language. You can say either one validly. The vain sensitivities of certain listeners is why it's popping up suddenly in discussions.
Charles Powell
It's pronoun faggotry but for a nation. Just ignore it.
Jace Young
Just call it by it’s real new name. Putingrad
Kayden Watson
No, they say it like ‘kh(u)yiv’. The braindead journo scum say ‘keeve’.
Anyway, no bump
Zachary Sanchez
alchemically a y is ambigious. indicating a sense of mercurial spirit.
Exactly. As cliche as it is to admit this, it’s Orwellian. They always fucking do this too. Just like how Biden said during his SOTU speech that ‘we should fund the police not defund the police’! This has always been our position!’ Or how the Covid narratives are more and more frequently admitting the things we’ve been saying and acting like they agreed all along. Such absolute fucking kikery. I can’t stand it.
Kayden Brooks
It seems I made a few factual errors in my post. Nothing too important, but you can read up on it all here:
Basically everyone is so fucking stupid that they believe the story about "the ghost" and the twitch streamer that created the fictional character in a fucking war simulator game.. Misspelled it and here we are.
Stupid births stupidity, in essence a twitch streamer make the world forget (again) to fact check themselves and media is great at LYING so they don't fact check shit either.
I swear if I could see who is the sheep is in public and exactly how brainwashed they are to blindly take medias lies as ((facts)) I'd start a purge as we clearly have brainless drones that is no different then a malfunctioning robot, walking among us..
It means duck. Very clearly some backwater slav meme that mysteriously started appearing in posts from western flags.
Michael Watson
Very simple answer.
It's because Ukrainian is similar to Russian but the pronunciation of things is a little different. It's kind of like Portuguese vs Spanish.
Up until recently Ukrainian was not uncommon in Ukraine, but most people spoke Russian and the primary language used by the government was Russian. After the brundlefuck that took place in 2014 Zelensky's government because more oriented around Ukraine, it's culture and language. Part of that was a transition to using Ukrainian as the primary language and Russian secondary.
As such, they switched from the Russian to the Ukrainian pronunciation for all of their cities which ends up a little different when transliterated into English. Hence Kiev became Kyiv. Ukrainians always pronounced it Kyiv in Ukrainian, they just started officially calling it in their own language recently.
Josiah Watson
The city's name is Kyiv in Ukrainian, which is spoken by something like 67% of the country, and Kiev among Russian speakers who are around 30%.