Is NATO really capable to fight against Russia/China?

Lets be honest here. Do you believe they can fight against eastern block?

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if nukes are involved everyone dies, but hypothetically if no nukes?

probably not

I think in a real war most of these people will step down or be replaced with non politicans

That was what happened in world war 2, the moment you hit failure you were removed from command

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yes

< comparison between nato and russia

keep in mind that a lot of russian stuff is 30+ years old

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No because they haven't got any soldiers to do the fighting.

why is that fag homo sitting on the table like a woman in a skin mag

i think he meant russia and china together vs all of nato

Thinking that NATO has anything but total superiority in every field over China and russia is delusional.

Nukes are only reason why russia is still on the map and china was only allowed to grow into being relavant to keep producing cheap goods for westerners to enjoy.

Turns out Ukraine alone is capable to fight Russia. Dunno about China, but if their military equipment is the same quality as their buildings and escalators, we have nothing to fear.

the US is the only world power with a ton of experience in modern warfare

Yes. Who do you think is wealthier between Russia+China and the entire West combined?

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Lol how did Korea, Vietnam, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria work out... lol

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They can. GAYTO defeats Russia (alone) in a conventional war. A more interesting scenario is a Russia, China and India in a military alliance vs GAYTO. Then it gets a bit more interesting from a military pov.

None of this will happen of course because of nukes. With nukes in the equation everybody dies, and literally niggers inherit the Earth. (Africa will avoid the main nuclear exchanges.)

*iraq

Fuck all, Nato is just American Military, which literally hasn’t won a war on their own since 1865, and that was against itself. All the money and numbers in the world don’t mean shit for a fighting force / society that is demonstrably incapable of true warfare
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Russia China and India

Fucking Russia can't even take a single city in 2 weeks, they wouldn't stand a chance. And fucking China tried to invade Vietnam twice and they had to run with their tails between their legs both times. And they don't even have the balls even to try invade a fucking island off their coast.

Military domination followed by failed attempts at nation building and ideological warfare. The solution is just to stop giving a shit about the country after its military has been neutralized.

>are they really capable

Ukraine is handing it to Russia, imagine if it was the US. Moscow would have been conquered and the nukes disabled by now.

And Pakiland too (And I don't mean England).

disgusting faggots playing soldiers. these idiots should be fucking shot!

>Ukraine alone is capable to fight Russia
they are not, Europe could face alone Russia, maybe even Russia and China, USA alone should face both easily, without nukes, with nukes everybody is kill.

There are no competent militaries anywhere in the world right now, it's just Clown War.

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No, since Iraq/Afghanistan they have no support among normal White men. The only people they have to fight for them are women and screeching leftists.

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NATO will win.

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Even Swedes or Germans could beat Russian army.

This war is amazing. I really dont need to be worried about russian military anymore. Total papertiger.

>HE ACTUALLY MIGHT BELIEVE THIS
holy shit no wonder you lot lost your empire and whatever is left of it is subhuman tier jfc

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The EU is such a small fraction of that. You think America would commit?

No they won't, no one has the competency to be victorious, everything will just end up in a stalemate of stupid.

>Even Swedes or Germans could beat Russian army
Haha who the women? Why would the men fight for feminism?

Carpet bombing the shit out of innocent civilians isn't winning

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no, it's what's left when "establish a vibrant western-style democracy" becomes the goal rather than concrete military objectives

>With nukes in the equation everybody dies, and literally niggers inherit the Earth. (Africa will avoid the main nuclear exchanges.)
holy kek. planet of the apes incoming

Yes they are even Putin admitted so. Russians will put up a fight but they can drive them out of Ukraine if they wanted too. The problem is it can escalate to world ending Nuclear war.

turkey is in NATO

the population of Russia is 1/4 of the people in the European union they had the GDP of Straya Spain or South Corea, now they should be below Turkey, and France has nukes to destroy all Western Russia, there is where everybody lives in Russia, China has no power projection nowadays

I still don't see how bombing and droning the shit out of women and children then just leaving is winning

Chinks are terrible fighters
they know it, we know it and they know it we know it. It's not as much as about the actual capacity but the ability to hold yourself together as soon as bombs start falling and honestly I think chinks are terrible at that.

No. The only countries in Europe even close to a war footing are Bongistan, Frogland, Turkey and a handful of East Euro states. The rest got complacent and would be caught with their pants down.

The US hasn’t done anything but bomb goat herders for 20 years. The institutional know-how for a peer to peer conventional war is well into retirement. And our industrial capacity is not what it used to be.

NATO would likely be able to kick the Ruskies out of Ukraine. But if met by the Russians on defense, I have my doubts. Especially if China goes for Taiwan and cuts off all the chips we use to run our techno-military.

Russia is hardly the USSR. But backing them into a corner and confirming their paranoia would not be a good idea.

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China doesnt have a military, they still use ak47s for petes sake

Yeah sorry, it's easy to forget.

Not because of highest level leadership, but probably yeah.

they are a fuckton and now after 50 years sucking American's dick they have money too, but it is the same people that was ravaged by the UK in the Opium Wars.