I mean they say they cannot protect Ukraine because it is not a member. This results in all countries thinking “fuck, bedda be a NATO fucktard goy”.
NATO - Are those guys using the Ukraine war for marketing?
Nathan James
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Brandon Brown
>Wehrpflicht abschaffen
>Inklusivität und Diversität predigen
Haha. Ihr dummen Nigger. ich kämpfe sicher nicht für diese Jiddenregierung
Andrew Cooper
“Neger” is das Wort, Du nach-2000 geborener Ahmed.
Isaac Wilson
Hoffe du wirst von ner Bande NIGGER vergewaltigt Schlomo
Carson Martin
Interesting.
It's well known that Russia has committed "pogroms" against the Ahskenaz/Jews in Ukraine.
Very easy to investigate.
But what about the Germans?
(What, Germans were targets of the Holodomor? Interesting question.)
Will share some posts here to possibly uncover an uneasy truth regarding the Holodomor.
The question motivating the posts is the following:
Recognizing that Moscow has a history of "pogroms" against the Ahskenaz/Jews in Ukraine, and acknowledging Catherine the Great invited German Mennonite farmers to settle in Ukraine, is it plausible that the Holodomor was Moscows attempt to remove/eliminate/exterminate the Ashkenaz/Jews *and* Germans from Ukraine?
Note:
The Germans in Ukraine were *farmers*.
The Holodomor targeted: ---> *farmers*.
See image.
Will share some more in following posts.
See image.
Read the sentence following the highlighted part and notice that *farmers* were the primary target of the Holodomor.
Thomas Lewis
>and acknowledging Catherine the Great invited German Mennonite farmers to settle in Ukraine
Since the history of the pogroms by Moscow against the Ashkenaz/Jews in Ukraine is well documented, will now share some information on the Germans of Ukraine.
First image:
Catherine the Great (the German Queen/Tsarina) of Russia invited German settlers to farm Ukraine.
See image.
Cameron Scott
>Catherine the Great (the German Queen/Tsarina) of Russia invited German settlers to farm Ukraine.
Since the above is from a "Blogger" article, here is an article on the same topic from the University of Alberta.
Refrence;
sites.ualberta.ca
See image.
Notable excepts:
>The group of settlers commonly referred to as "Germans from Odessa and the Black Sea" were immigrants from western and southern Germany (followed later by Prussian Mennonites and Swabians) who settled on the northern coast of the Black Sea between Odessa and the Caucasus. They followed the invitations extended by Catherine the Great and Tsar Alexander I. to colonize large areas of Russia.
And:
>The history of the Black Sea Germans is more than 200 years old. At the end of the 18th century, Russia conquered in the war against the Turks vast areas of the steppe by the Black Sea, the cultivation of which was to be implemented immediately.
Etc.
So, the "Germans from Odessa to the Black Sea" have a centuries' history in Ukraine?
Interesting.
What happened to them?
Gavin Gutierrez
>What happened to them?
See image.
During WWI on the Eastern Front, Germany defeated Russia and at the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, Ukraine was recognized as an independent country.
See image.
Many images on this topic.
Yes: German liberated Ukraine during WWI, this is a historical fact.
However, the Germans lost WWI and the Entente powers did not recognize the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk.
It's worth asking here:
Was one of Germany's motivating factors for liberating Ukraine in 1917, because they knew and had a relationship with the German farmers who had settled in the region "from Odessa to the Black Sea"?
Landon Torres
>During WWI on the Eastern Front, Germany defeated Russia and at the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, Ukraine was recognized as an independent country.
Here is a map of territories liberated by Germany at the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk.
In the next post, will manually type an excerpt from a textbook on the "Pogrom against the Germans" of Ukraine.
Yes.
This is an historical fact.
Again, the question:
Recognizing there was animosity from Moscow against the Jews (and Germans) in Ukraine, were these peoples the primary targets of the "Holodomor"?
Obviously do not know, hence why sharing this information with others to think about.
(Going to have to manually type the "pogrom against the Germans" in Ukraine, because -- not surprisingly -- it's difficult to find on the Internet at the moment.)
Hudson Martinez
>In the next post, will manually type an excerpt from a textbook on the "Pogrom against the Germans" of Ukraine.
The following is an excerpt of the "pogrom against the Germans" in Ukraine from the following book:
Title: A History of Ukraine
By: Paul Robert Magocsi
Published by: University of Toronto Press
Date of publication: 1996
Excerpt:
"Already during World War I, the Germans living in Volhynia and in the Chelm region, that is, in areas closest to the front, had been deported, in 1915, by the tsarist Russian government, primary to Siberia. They were suspect in the eyes of Russian officialdom, who feared their collaborating with the advancing German Army. Then, during 1919 and the height of the peasant leader Makhno's military ravages, many German villages, especially in Katrynoslav province, were attacked in destructive pogroms. Their inhabitants were killed or, if they managed to escape, eventually reached Germany of the United States. The pacifist Mennonites and their prosperous rural farms proved especially easy targets for Makno's anarchist bands. As a result of the World War I deportations and the destruction wrought during the revolutionary era, the number of Germans in Dnieper Ukraine decreased by almost two-fifths, from 750,000 int 1914 to 514,000 in 1926."
Again:
>Then, during 1919 and the height of the peasant leader Makhno's military ravages, many German villages, especially in Katrynoslav province, were attacked in destructive pogroms.
There it is: the pogrom against the Germans in Ukraine.
Robert Russell
The excerpt was from page 508 of the book.
While one can argue the Russians were justified in their removal of the Germans in Ukraine because of their war with Germany, the question being ask here is the following:
---> Were these Germans one of the targeted groups of the Holodomor?
Why ask the question?
Notice in the quoted passage:
>The pacifist Mennonites and their prosperous rural farms [...]
"Prosperous rural farms"
See image!
Here is the same excerpt from the one above, but now the *targeted* group of the Holodomor is highlighted.
Who were the primary targets of the Holodomor?
>The primary victims of the Holodomor (literally "death inflicted by starvation") were rural farmers and villagers, who made up roughly 80 percent of Ukraine's population in the 1930s.
Again:
The primary targets were:
>were rural farmers and villagers
Well, those Germans who were invited to settle in Ukraine were... Farmers!
It's right there in the textbook quote above!
Reference:
cla.umn.edu
Brody Perry
>Who were the primary targets of the Holodomor?
Simply asking the question out of curiosity.
The reasoning is as follows:
- German farmers invited by Catherine the Great to Settle in Ukraine ("from Odessa to the Black Sea");
- The Ashkenaz/Jews have a history of being "pogrommed" by Russia in Ukraine;
- During WWI, Germany liberates Ukraine at the Treaty of Brest Litovsk;
- After WWI, Moscow begins to "punish" the Germans in Ukraine, reducing their population by hundreds of thousands;
- 1932-33: Holodomor - the forced starvation of the Ukrainian people by Moscow as "punishment" for ... for what?
Was the Holodomor "punishment" for the Ukrainian people for their previous liberation in 1917?
Surely in 1932 Moscow did not forget the Treat of Brest-Litovsk!
Heck, in the 1930s Hitler did not forget The Treaty of Versailles!
So then, if Hitler did not forget the Treaty of Versailles in the 1930s, it's reasonable to speculate that Moscow did not forget the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, hence why in 1932 they (Moscow) *punished* Ukraine by starving it's people to death.
Interestingly: one of those primary farming communities that would likely have been a target, were the German Mennonite settlers.
Again, the above is just a speculative theory.
The theory:
The Holodomor was "punishment" by Moscow on the people of Ukraine for their support with Germany at the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk.
Moscow did not forgive the Ukrainian people and forcefully starved them to death once the Soviet collectivized agriculture program began to fail.
Again:
There were hundreds of thousands of German farmers likely still living in Ukraine at the time of the Holodomor.
... what happened to them?
Were they one of the primary targets?
Give the case above, one can reason Moscow would "punish" them severely as they historically did in the past.
Of course, the above is just a speculative theory and the case is not thoroughly supported.
It's just a theory.
Benjamin Gutierrez
>So then, if Hitler did not forget the Treaty of Versailles in the 1930s, it's reasonable to speculate that Moscow did not forget the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, hence why in 1932 they (Moscow) *punished* Ukraine by starving it's people to death.
What's notable here?
Putin...
---> Does not forget the "betrayal of 1991"!
See image!
So then, it's quote clear that Moscow does not forget their historical grievances, especially against the Ukrainian people.
(That image is now archived. It was published as Moscow's "victory" in Ukraine on Feb. 26, 2022.)
Julian Anderson
Reference for the article:
web.archive.org
Cheers to the archiver.
The article is no longer available from the original website.
Austin Price
Germanys military is a joke. They struggle to supply everyone because they don't get enough funding
Landon Thomas
>Putin...
>---> Does not forget the "betrayal of 1991"!
See image.
Quote:
>A new world is born before our eyes. The military operation of Russia in Ukraine opened a new era - and immediately in three dimensions. And of course, in the fourth, intra-Russian. A new period begins here both in ideology and in the model of our socio-economic system itself - but it is worth talking about separately a little later.
And
>Russia restores its unity - the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe of our history, its unnatural dislocation, overcome. Yes, at a great price, yes, through the tragic events of the actual civil war, because now the brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other - but Ukraine how anti-Russia will no longer be. Russia is restoring its historical fullness by collecting the Russian world, the Russian people together - in its entire population of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we abandoned this, would allow the temporary division to gain a foothold for centuries, then not only would betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants - for allowing the collapse of the Russian land.
Again:
>Russia restores its unity - the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe of our history, its unnatural dislocation, overcome.
Again:
>the tragedy of 1991
So then, once again, the Kremlin is overcoming what they perceive to be an, "historical grievance", just like Hitler with The Treaty of Versailles.
Interestingly, Putin is punishing Ukraine today for what the Kremlin perceives as a, "terrible tragedy".
Again: see image.
Question:
---> Did Russia *punish* Ukraine in 1932 during the "Holodomor" for what they perceived as a "terrible catastrophe" of The Treaty of Brest Litovsk?
Do not know.
Just theorizing here and thought "the theory" was worth sharing with others.
Evan Powell
>Again: see image.
See highlighted statement.
Note the rationale:
The terrible catastrophe of 1991, so punish Ukraine.
Was this rationale what motivated Moscow during the Holodomor?
Punish Ukraine for their arguably liberation by Germany at The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk?
The theory seems incredibly plausible.
And what's really interesting here, is that if the theory is true or close to the truth, then both the Jews (Ashkenaz?) *and* Germans of Ukraine have a history of being "pogrommed" by Moscow/Kremlin/Russia.
That's all for the posts.
Again, just thought the theory was worth sharing with others.
Luke Perry
>because they don't get enough funding
Schloz just massively increased their budged. One of the few good things to come out of this whole hysteria.
Joseph Cook
Hitler II finna boutta conscripted
Dylan Gray
OP
Found an additional reference to share:
>(Going to have to manually type the "pogrom against the Germans" in Ukraine, because -- not surprisingly -- it's difficult to find on the Internet at the moment.)
>There it is: the pogrom against the Germans in Ukraine.
For those curious, found an Internet article on the topic.
See image.
Excerpt:
>The Revolution of 1917
>It is imperative that we are clear about chronology. In late 1917, as the Russian Revolution spread to the Ukraine, there was an explosion of long-repressed popular anger. In some villages, groups of peasants burned the landowner’s estate while shouting ‘All this belongs to us! All this belongs to us!’ (see Tsebry, p-7).
Here it is.
The theory above appears to the valid:
The Soviet Union/Marxists punished the Ukrainian people, among them, the Germans, Jews/Ashkenaz, and so on.
More excerpts:
>In the three months following the revolution, Letkemann identifies only nine violent deaths, and these all occurred in the far-Eastern Terek settlement, where Mennonites were attacked by ‘Muslim mountain tribes’ (p-2).
Interesting:
---> The Mennonites were attacked by 'Muslim Mountain Tribes'
The Chechens?
What?
Moscow has a history of using Chechens (Muslim Mountain Tribes) to attack the Ukrainians!
It's right here folks!
The pogrom against the Germans of Ukraine:
>So, let us be clear about the chronology. The executions of Mennonites overwhelmingly occurred in 1919 (see Letkemann, p-2).
Reference:
libcom.org
Chase Clark
>---> The Mennonites were attacked by 'Muslim Mountain Tribes'
See image.
Notice the quoted part:
"Muslim Mountain Tribes" were used to attack the people of Ukraine, in this case the Mennonites who were the Germans in the region.
Putin's Moscow is repeating this scenario with the Chechen!
So many parallels here, one is led to ask the question:
---> Is Ukraine currently experiencing (yet another) pogrom by Russia?
Reference:
libcom.org
***
SEE IMAGE
***
1917
Mennonites (Germans) in Ukrainians attacked by "Muslim Mountain Tribes".
Woah.
Isaac Phillips
>1917
>Mennonites (Germans) in Ukrainians attacked by "Muslim Mountain Tribes".
See image.
Fascinating.
What more can be said here?
Don't know man.
Really suspecting the above speculative theory regarding the Holodomor is valid:
The theory:
The Holodomor was Russia punishing the Ukrainian people for their support for German at the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, and those people who many have been primary targets were the German/Mennnonite farmers and the Ashkenaz/Jews.
The above theory is reasonable, considering it's clear that Moscow is invading Ukraine as "punishment" for the Ukrainian people -- once again -- leaning towards Europe.
In summary:
The Ukrainian people see themselves as belonging to Europe, whereas Moscow wants them to belong to "Russia", and whenever the Ukrainian people lean towards Europe, Moscow punishes the Ukrainian people.
This case seems quite clear:
Both the Holodomor and this invasion support the reasoning here.
Reference for the image:
aljazeera.com