he been warning us about NATO all along
he knows them better than anyone
Is putin really wrong?
Christopher Scott
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Isaiah Flores
He would be if the Ukrainians had not violated the Minsk and Minsk2 agreements. Typical joo pandering and conspiracy have kept these details silent in the MSN. Also once armed, civilians are combatives and in this case are criminally being used as human shields and propaganda toys for the Ukrainians. SHAMEFULL.
John Garcia
There is something wrong with the BOOMER generation
Julian White
Based
Matthew Gray
Based
Adrian Watson
He's a jew so yes
Jackson Campbell
>a fat american with a gun thinks it's wrong for ukrainians to take up arms and defend their country without a shred of irony
Ryder Flores
I dont think he’s saying its wrong that the civilians have taken up arms, but its wrong how they will be portrayed as civilian casualties despite clearly being combatants in a war-zone.
Andrew Reyes
>10 years ago
Putin is correct, but western society is no longer moved by logical discussion. It's all based on the emotional manipulation by media.
>Iraq? That was the previous administration.
>Libya? What's that
>Syria? The dictator there gassed kids
Etc.
Historical memory is gone.
Sorry for the war bro, I protested against it. I even got beat up at age 16 by a guy at his "deployment party" for calling him an idiot who was dying so that Israel could steal your oil, and the Saudis did 9/11.
Noah Cook
It's pretty depressing to see this shit. People are acting like this attack came from nowhere, is completely unreasonable and didn't stem from aggressive NATO expansion.
I fee bad for the Ukrainians caught up in this but every foreign policy expert on the planet predicted this happening over half a decade ago but no one in NATO or Ukraine changed course
Austin Stewart
>it's a retarded brit episode
Colton Watson
WTF, Biden is based?
Caleb Turner
The more that I look at it the less it looks like Putin
WTF
Alexander Bell
Nice foreshadowing...
Henry Scott
Don't care, russia is about to suffer another implosion, it will stop at the Urals.
Evan Peterson
My retarded boomer parents were talking about it and they believe Russia is invading Ukraine "for oil" and know nothing about NATO.
Tyler Hughes
I call this sleepy-Joe effect
Angel Thomas
NATO hasn't done even a single thing wrong if you know the lore. NATO and Russia has been working together for 30 years countering terrorism, stopping narcotics, saving submarines and NATO has very publicly reached out to Russia many times and Putin himself admits he wanted to join. If Putin wasn't so schizo about NATO and didn't care about muh Ukraine literally none of this would happen and the amount of suffering in the world would have dropped probably like 1000%
Carter Williams
This will explain everything
Samuel Brooks
No, he isn't wrong. That's the problem.
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Ryan Ross
I don't take any sides on this war, and when I talk about sides I mean Ukraine and Russia. The true evil is the ones who have been brainwashing Ukrainians, making them believe they could become like Poland, a EU country and improve their standards. And we all know who are these people. Ukrainians were just too gullible and now not only them, by the whole world will pay it.
Sorry if I hate any ukranian user's feelings.
Lucas Perez
>lore
You mean Torah. Now make like a leaf and rake yourself.
Tyler Turner
Comrade, you do not support the people's NATO party? I will take away your bank account, shame you on social media, and ensure you never work again.
Hudson Lee
Everyone is united, we must work together and stomp on all who oppose us. All opposition will be dealt with accordingly. Remember, NATO exists for YOU.
Hudson Foster
>gorbachev gets overt and explicit verbal promises from sos baker that nato will not expand one inch east from germany, respecting warsaw pact borders
>gorbachev never gets it in writing as a signed treatise
>nato gradually expands eastward
>eventually russia draws the line at ukraine
>euromaidan (a cia operation) occurs in 2013
>oh look, a "vote" installs EU friendly leaders in ukraine (poroshenko)
>poroshenko brutally oppresses dissidents in the west of ukraine
>russia responds by annexing crimea in 2014, a move welcomed by the crimean locals
>(((zelensky))) becomes leader of ukraine. he pushes for EU membership and says he wants ukraine to possess nukes
>russia throws down the gauntlet and invades ukraine to end the CIA operation that began in 2013
you tell me, user. are they justified?
Matthew Rodriguez
NATO is just America. America contributes 95% of the budget and troops, and NATO countries are full of US military bases. NATO expansion into the UkroReich would mean a massive US Military built up hours from the Russian heartland. Why would anyone expect Putin to be willing to accept that? NATO should have assured Putin that Ukraine would never be allowed to join. Conflict averted. But no, they had to be faggots about it.
Benjamin Thomas
"lore"
you mean raping African kids?
Alexander Powell
America has been carrying out its anti-Russia agitation since time immemorial and has been harassing and harassing the whole world with lies.
This is done in such a way that America's lying misleads the countries of the world and accuses Russia of warmongering, while truthfully the USA does this and deliberately misleads Russia to take up arms. Something that also does not correspond to what should be done.
Both sides are acting like incompetent and underage children, making and possibly implementing vicious and vindictive threats, as well as imposing sanctions – which are well calculated, but do not affect the opponents – which basically affect the people and the economy, but not those who squat in the governments and play out their might in an insane and confused manner.
What is happening now, around Ukraine, Russia and America, the two main actors in the debacle regarding NATO etc., is more than just tiresome.
America, as the driving and controlling force of NATO – which has to be said for once, because in reality the USA uses it to achieve world domination – now wants to establish it in Ukraine as well, with the help of ideologically bought Ukrainian rulers.
This is also to be done in this case despite the verbal promise made on 2 February 1990 by America and Germany that there would be no eastward enlargement of NATO and that Russia would be left alone with regard to the fact that NATO would put itself before the country by making the countries in front of it NATO members.
Jaxson Davis
glow niggers hate when you bring up that man. another red pill to swallow
Anthony Butler
>pic
Does that justify deliberate attack on Ukraine?
Anthony Phillips
Claim: NATO is a U.S. geopolitical project
Fact: NATO was founded in 1949 by twelve sovereign nations: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom and the United States. It has since grown to 30 Allies who each took an individual and sovereign decision to join this Alliance.
All decisions in NATO are taken by consensus, which means that a decision can only be taken if every single Ally accepts it.
Equally, the decision for any country to take part in NATO-led operations falls to that country alone, according to its own legal procedures. No member of the Alliance can decide on the deployment of any other Ally's forces.
Claim: Russia has the right to demand a guarantee that Ukraine and Georgia will not join NATO
Fact: Every sovereign nation has the right to choose its own security arrangements. This is a fundamental principle of European security and one which Russia has also subscribed to (see Helsinki Final Act here)
When Russia signed the NATO-Russia Founding Act, it also pledged to uphold "respect for sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of all states and their inherent right to choose the means to ensure their own security".
Ukraine and Georgia have the right to choose their own alliances, and Russia has, by its own repeated agreement, no right to dictate that choice. We reject any idea of spheres of influence in Europe – they are part of history and should remain part of history.
Jayden Ross
But this came about anyway, contrary to the verbal promise, and so the eastward expansion of NATO fraudulently became a reality through America's efforts, which Russia now rightly opposes, since Ukraine is now also to become NATO territory, because America is, as ever, in breach of contract and wants NATO expansion in Ukraine.
But the fact that exactly the opposite of what was promised is being done, that Russia is to be encircled by NATO right up to its national border, which then makes it easy for NATO's murderous mercenary army, usually led by America, to invade Russia, naturally creates discord.
Cooper Rogers
yeah he is, he thinks that the entire nato bombed lybia and killed gaddafi, in reality it was these countries.
Camden Price
>what is geopolitics in the 21st century
This is yet another proxy war fought by world powers with a puppet state in the middle. Only this time the idiot Putin thought he could win by steamrolling tanks into the capital of a country and occupying it with force - despite not learning the lessons the US has been forced to learn through 20 years of occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Also, invading a country full of BLYAT TO THE FUTURE gopniks that carry landmines in their bare hands and steal every unattended tank with John Deere tractors was never going to end well
Parker Evans
Wrong
Jose Brooks
Of course he's right
Eli Carter
>when they get what the fucking deserve
Yuuuuuuuup
Tyler Butler
FUCK OFF PLEBIT TRANNY KIKE NIGGER. peddle your BS elsewhere tranny.
Kayden Wilson
Claim: NATO's operation over Libya was illegitimate
Fact: The NATO-led operation was launched under the authority of two UN Security Council Resolutions (UNSCR), 1970 and 1973, both quoting Chapter VII of the UN Charter, and **neither of which was opposed by Russia.**
UNSCR 1973 authorized the international community "to take all necessary measures" to "protect civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack". This is what NATO did, with the political and military support of regional states and members of the Arab League.
After the conflict, NATO cooperated with the UN International Commission of Inquiry on Libya, which found no breach of UNSCR 1973 or international law, concluding instead that "NATO conducted a highly precise campaign with a demonstrable determination to avoid civilian casualties."
Gavin Watson
The eastward expansion of NATO – pushed forward by America, despite the VERBAL PROMISE that it would not take place – is now continuing, that Ukraine is to be incorporated into NATO so that the USA can continue to strive for, expand and realize its world domination. And that the promise was made in 1990, by the American Secretary of State and also by Germany through Genscher, and that is recorded in writing and by VHS. And even if it was not written down in a contract, it is still a promise that is valid in one way or another and must be kept, regardless of how, where and who spoke it, because an oral promise is also a promise that is valid.
And that it was made verbally by at least two sides, but was broken by America and by NATO, which it directs, and thus Russia was taken to the cleaners and has since been cheated through the teeth by the ringleaders of America and NATO, that is clear. And that now Russia is to be put right on NATO's doorstep, so that America with its murderous mercenary NATO army and with its US nuclear bomb is to be right there to force Russia to do what America wants, that is so clear that there is not the slightest doubt about it.
The fact that this is a calculated war-mongering of unparalleled proportions on the part of America and that Russia is being portrayed by the USA as culpable by all countries and peoples, and that the peoples believe this and disregard the reality that America and NATO are really to blame for everything, really frosts my nut sack..
Jayden Rodriguez
You can bet your ass that if Russia had a communist puppet governmentr with an aggressive anti-usa faction in power hosting csto forces and equipment with nuclear ambitions or with Russian nukes hosted there, 95% of Americans (commies aren't American) would get behind an invasion and "de-militarization" campaign.
Thomas Hernandez
It is a proxy war, but the principle powers behind it are America and China.
>we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing
top zozzle
Aaron Fisher
lmao, this shill copying and pasting narratives straight from the NATO website
nato.int
LMAO, whatcha doin', rabbi?
Levi Parker
Claim: NATO promised Russia it would not expand after the Cold War
Fact: Such an agreement was never made. NATO’s door has been open to new members since it was founded in 1949 – and that has never changed. This “Open Door Policy” is enshrined in Article 10 of NATO’s founding treaty, which says “any other European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic” can apply for membership. Decisions on membership are taken by consensus among all Allies. No treaty signed by the United States, Europe and Russia included provisions on NATO membership.
The idea of NATO expansion beyond a united Germany was not on the agenda in 1989, particularly as the Warsaw Pact still existed. This was confirmed by Mikhail Gorbachev in an interview in 2014: "The topic of 'NATO expansion' was not discussed at all, and it wasn't brought up in those years. I say this with full responsibility. Not a single Eastern European country raised the issue, not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991. Western leaders didn't bring it up, either."
Declassified White House transcripts also reveal that, in 1997, Bill Clinton consistently refused Boris Yeltsin's offer of a 'gentlemen's agreement' that no former Soviet Republics would enter NATO: "I can't make commitments on behalf of NATO, and I'm not going to be in the position myself of vetoing NATO expansion with respect to any country, much less letting you or anyone else do so…NATO operates by consensus."