Iraq War vs Ukraine War, aka "russia sucks"

Let's compare the Russian invasion of Ukraine to the US invasion of Iraq.

An enemy army of over 1 million was slaughtered bearing almost 0 Americans deaths not from friendly fire. The invasion was swift, leading to the collapse of the Iraqi government and the military of Iraq in about three weeks. The oil infrastructure of Iraq was rapidly seized and secured with limited damage in that time

> Iraqi Armed Forces: 424,000 active
> 650,000 reserves[14][15]
> 2,000 tanks
> 3,700 APCs and IFVs
> 2,300 artillery pieces
> 300 combat aircraft[16]
> SRG: 12,000
> RG: 70,000–75,000
> Fedayeen Saddam: 30,000
> Arab volunteers: 6,000[17]
> Total: ~1,310,000

>Casualties and losses
>139 U.S.

>(1 month, 1 week and 4 days)

Based on statistics, being in a war as an American is safer than living as a citizen in Russia.

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how skilled are russian pilots?

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BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTT

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The Iraqi army surrendered en masse because the Shiites did not want to fight for Saddam, and the Kurds even less. Another difference is that the Russians don't play hard core, at least not yet.

Baghdad had one of the most set up defenses on the planet in 1991 too. Paid the soviets a lot of money to set up their shields. Still a turkey shoot while way through. Russians suck and the idea that they could hold up in conventional warfare with us is delusion

Russia basically tried to use the US’s playbook in Iraq except Ukraines defenses didn’t melt away like the Iraqis did. What Is unforgivable though for the Russians is the lack of logistics they simply didn’t plan for a costly war that is a strategic level fuck up and one that has bitten them in the ass hard.

in the 3 years of the Korean war, US lost 36,574 troops

Served alongside Russians back in Bosnia. Probably the most undisciplined lazy worthless "soldiers" id ever seen. Not surprised at all they are getting stomped by a bunch of farmers and civilians.

>Russians don't play hard core, at least not yet.
what does this even mean
that russians dont bomb civilians?

(a) they are bombing civilians
(b) the american surgical strikes rarely hit civilians
i mean ya, when we did it made headlines about muh poor muslims but that tells you how rare it was

by hard core do you mean using surgical airstrikes?
afaik they are but that's kind of the point
the US is predicated on air superiority

what ace in the hole does russia have left to play
they're losing more men in a day than we lost in a month and ours were from friendly fire or other nonsense

>ya well, the iraq's gave up really quick
who the fuck wouldnt, its the US army for christ's sake
you think they snap surrender to the ruskies? LMAO

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They tried the soft way, because they wanna integrate ukraine.

WW2 era vs modern warfare

>the american surgical strikes rarely hit civilians
>i mean ya, when we did it made headlines about muh poor muslims but that tells you how rare it was

Yeah, believe your own propaganda

>belives global fire power

jesus christ imagine being this retarded
CNN and every liberal station was digging 24/7 for EVERY sob story on a civilian causality

you think the US just bombed the side of civilian towers ww2 style like this?
LMFAO

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>Russia built up its forces for month, but on day 1 of the attack already moved in armor and infantry.
Why not bomb the shit out of the Ukraine military for at least a week and THEN move in like the US did?

This is beyond retarded. Russian airforce isnt great, but better than Ukrainian and with their missiles its not even a competition. Whats the point of having near every pilot gain experience in Syria for years to then not use this advantage. You ownt get dog fights anyway.

Literal Zerg rush.

>being in a war as an American
yeah, turns out it's pretty easy to be a fatass playing bing bing wahoo behind a screen

Yeah, repeatedly. Are you retarded?

I suppose the main difference is that the Russians invaded Ukraine because they wanted to, and the US invaded Iraq because Israel wanted to

That, and the Russians will actually have some success in Ukraine

The soft way is bombing apartment buildings ? Those dumb alcoholic fucks just ensured their people will starve for the next 20 years because the government was too pussified to tell an old man to sit down and shut the fuck up before he ruined Russia. Sure you faggots will take Ukraine but only after suffering huge losses and turning yourself into North Korea II.

>Russia built up its forces for month
bro they spent a year preparing for this
and it's invasion on their western front

they're invading their neighbor for god's sake

we had to fight a war
>>>>ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD
and we did it better

do you have any idea how of a handicap it is to fight ten gorillian miles away like that

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Ukrainians have a higher IQ.

>(b) the american surgical strikes rarely hit civilians

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Yes. They did it a lot. CNN advocated FOR the war, you think they're going to cover the actual civvie death toll? They spent years ignoring that we continued to blow up and kill civilians for decades, even under Trump because that would bring to light how much King Nigger did it.

The actual part where shit got fucked up was some half wit fired the entire army and everyone in the government who was apart of Saddam's party, turns out that was everyone.

People were wondering how russia could field such an enormous army - land, sea, air, nukes - on a relatively shoestring budget
Turns out they can’t

HUNTER BIDEN OWNS LIKE HALF OF UKRAINE
DO THE MATH BRAINSTEIN

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>he thinks CNN was right about the Iraq War
>he thinks the US military indiscriminately bombed any civilian building in sight
>he knows nothing about the iraq invasion

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You lost that war user. Cope harder.

The force build up for Iraq had been going on since the 1990s. Oman, Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia were all on side. Numerous countries went and billions were spent on companies like Kroll, Sandline, KBR etc purely for their logistic effort. The invasion of Iraq was mounted from positions that were uncontested and unopposed. There wasn’t a 0+ hour moment, just a lot of moves into Iraq

It was also a total waste of time and money and no military success came of it whatsoever