>Kiew almost encircled >Steadily losing territory >40 mile long Russian military convoy can just drive towards the city undisturbed >But muh captured conscripts >But muh destroyed vehicles >Muh Ukranian talking head saying they are winning
Images are powerful, but they just capture a moment and an emotion. You don't see the ugly side because the Russians can't show it for strategic reasons and the Ukranians won't show it for morale reasons. Ukraine will fall if the NATO doesn't escalate the situation further.
most of Ukro army getting encircled in the East in a massive cauldron.
Samuel Young
Ukraine put all their eggs in the propaganda cyberwar basket and are getting blown out constantly on the battlefield, their entire air force has been wiped out, they have resorted to arming civilians and coercing children to help their parents make molotovs to martyr themselves with. This is already over.
did you just assume Ukraines gender? Its Xyev you filthy bigot
Wyatt Stewart
Do you really believe those subhumans who have lived in a tent for 2 months, who are hungry and weak are going to capture a city of 3.5 million?
Daniel Nguyen
Well there it is
Anthony Moore
COPE The EU/ nato will not let Ukraine fall and even if it does it won't fall easily. Wars last years you dumb niggers. This will be no exception
Oliver White
No one can do that... oh wait.. never mind
Gabriel Sanchez
This is the end of a war that has been fought since about 2011 in Donbass, this is the finale, not a new war.
Jordan Clark
>The EU/ nato will not let Ukraine fall Just like they didnt let afghanistan fall >even if it does it won't fall easily obviously it wont be easy on the ukranian people >Wars last years afghanistan lasted 20 years and still fell within a week
Gavin Cruz
The only hope of the Ukrainians is a stalemate in urban warfare which would prolong the war long enough for an unlikely overthrow of the Russian leadership.
This largely hinges on how much Russia have learnt from the two Chechen wars. If they perform poorly, and retread their failures, I can imagine it being difficult for Russia to take Kiev, and we could see fighting right through to the end of March.
Levi Morgan
cope. they will absolutely let it fall because the only alternative is war and eu/nato don't have the will and it looks like putin really is ready to escalate if need be.
List of anti-Russia propaganda we have seen thus far: - Ukrainian father crying as he hugged his daughter was actually a pro-Russian rebel in Donbas preparing to fight Nazi Azov Battalion - 13 Ukrainian soldiers "killed" on Snake Island actually surrendered and are alive and well - Russian tank that ran over civilian car in Kiev was a Strela-10 Ukrainian air defense system - Photos of Zelensky in military garb with a helmet on are from 2021 border inspection - Video of Ukrainian MiG-29 shooting down a Russian Su-35 was a Digital Combat Simulator animation - Russian cruise missile that blew up the side of a residential building was actually a Ukrainian air-defense missile fired by the Ukrainian military - Viral video of Ukrainian pilot shooting down Russian jet was a screen recording from Arma 3 video game - Russian supply convoy that Ukrainian military blew up was a Ukrainian convoy - Ukrainian military lied about blowing up 56 tanks that included General Tushayev - Russian jet bombing near residential homes appears to be a Ukrainian MiG-29 fighter targeting Russian troops - Claims from Western-intel that Ukraine had shot down multiple IL-76 transport planes carrying paratroopers have yielded no evidence - Ukrainian Ambassador to the UN reads fake text messages from 2ch (Russian soldiers aren't allowed cell phones in Ukraine)
Elijah Howard
Russian propaganda: - There will be no war :v
Grayson Gonzalez
There won't really be any urban warfare to speak of, Russia is just going to starve and shell Kiev until the leadership decides to let go of the East, long-term occupation isn't the objective here.
Elijah Edwards
Yes, easily. And it's not 3,5 million since a good portion already fled for obvious reasons. And Putin won't let loose. His economy is in the bin now so he has nothing to lose. The West created an atmosphere where there is no other option for Russia than to double down.
John Powell
It’s crazy how people are falling for the propaganda and refusing to acknowledge the reality of what’s going on, Ukraine so far is losing and that’s reality regardless of which side you support.
The afghan government fell in a week yes against and actual decent power. Insurgents eventually won due to exacting crippling financial losses on the US budget. Same will occur here
Oliver Perez
There’s going to be an insurgency that’ll last until Ruskies leave and the ruple is fucking worthless now. Cope and seethe.
Jaxon Cox
>they have resorted to arming civilians and coercing children to help their parents make molotovs to martyr themselves with Even worse they are killing themselves. Why was that “russians crush a civilian car” video memory holed and now censored? It was fucking Ukrainians shooting each other
Josiah Butler
They won't let it fall easily. The longer the ukr hold out the more debilitating it'll get for Russia. You're coping if you think Russia will ever launch nukes. Putin has a family too and MAD will be guaranteed. Ain't gonna happen
Exactly because Ukraine is a gangland shithole full of sex traffickers and mafia that immediately took their free guns and fueled blood feuds with them.
Joshua Hall
I hate to say this, but they have to surrender. They can't win the regular war, it would be a miracle. They maybe can make it too costly for them by urban guerilla... But it will be enormous loss of brave good people. Surrender now, fight another day. Russia should be dealt with through economic cold war and other non-military means.
You're implying this war isn't also debilitating to the west, petrol, gas and coal are at impossible prices right now, the western economy is about to grind to a fucking halt.
>40 mile long Russian military convoy can just drive towards the city undisturbed Why doesnt it? Are they waiting till rockets killed every opposition and civilians? Seems more like the soldiers are rebeling and moscow cant get them to enter the city.
Jason Rodriguez
Lol sure keep telling yourself that. Military expenditure in this region will cripple the Russian economy for little gain. Russia is bleeding and the west can smell it. Russia will be an actual democracy begging to be part of the EU by decade's end
Jason Gutierrez
more bong cope. they have the capital encircled, good luck getting any of the equipment they're being promised. once the ukranians get hungry they'll just hand the jew clown over because they don't give enough of a fuck about whoever is the oligarchs figurehead in power.
Henry Howard
Why else would Zelensky push for cutting off Russia in every conceivable way? Ukraines only way out is to stall and pray Russia will give up, they won't last forever and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional
Jonathan Adams
We can afford it and adapt. Russia cannot that's the important difference
Christian Ward
>enter the city Literally no reason to even do that, they are withing 30km of the city, they can just precisious strike it to dust.
Camden Murphy
>999 >digits
Yea. Putin won. Its over
Jonathan Campbell
I don't think Russia will just annex Ukraine. That would be retarded for the reasons you just stated. I think Putin's goal is to get rid of Zelensky and get NATO membership for Ukraine off the table.
Ryan Sanchez
So they dont need the army? Only to make sure noone can escape? That sounds like a war crime to keep civilians in and bomb the city.
Colton Cook
Checked. I still feel like the initial narrative had a grain of truth in that Russia's advance units and espionage really should have been able to pin down Zelensky's location as the opening attack. Having to rely on Red Army tactics counts a failure. Ukrainian nationalism and embarrassed conscript units could have been avoided. But there's no doubt about the outcome. Redditors will be seething.
trips of death: it's a slow train wreck from here on out, and besides shooting out the lights there's only a few opportunities to check pockets for loose change.
But it's a total dunk, sorry. No more Independent Ukraine.
And there will always be a Ukraine, one figures. Not the same, but...
One thing's clear: I can't fap to this.
Adam Wright
>Kowabungayiev almost encircled >two more 40 mile long convoys
Ukros are slav cucks and not Chechens, don't expect them to fight. Grozny alone stood for 5 weeks under heaviest bombardment since WW2 and Chechens retreated and retook it later.
We know from Chechnya they have no problems with killing civilians. But for PR and political reason they will try to avoid that. But if they have to do it...
Ayden Mitchell
zelensky is in pooland
Jordan Butler
Depends on nationalistic ukrs really are. Capital falling really doesn't mean much unless they insist on fighting conventionally
