>Russia tries to join NATOin 90s, rejected >NATO expands, breaking multiple treaties >Russia reacts by invading Georgia >Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands, etc sign deal with Russia to build an oil pipeline, Nordstream 2. >America furious >America overthrows Ukraine in 2014 and installs puppet regime. >Proxy war stars. >America can sabotage the pipeline by putting their vessels in the batlic sea >Ukraine turns into one of the most corrupted shitholes >Nordstream pipeline 2 finished >Ukraine applies for NATO+EU >NATO/EU don't decline instantly, on the verge to break another treaty >Russia reacts. >America can move their vessels to the Baltic >Nordstream pipeline halts >France, Germany, Netherlands, etc lose 50B USD a day since pipeline invades >EU mad at US but has to keep face against Russia >EU refuses to help Ukraine, but the media pretends they are as they are sending weapons but that is due to NATO alliance. they have no control. >putin takes kiev by day 3 >west pretends somehow they won through copious amounts of comical propaganda.
if nordstream will go ahead:
>America will lose bargaining chip >America will lose influence in the region >EU and Russia can trade without being routed through the Dollar >EU wont be forced to do what America wants as they can go to Russia for energy.
If Germany and Russia would be friends:
>America will be ejected from the continent
No matter how I look at it. America is the bad guy here. They are instigating a war because:
>Real inflation is at 40-60% >The bailout in 2021 was 4x larger than the one in 2008 >Confirmed that Corona came from a lab >Confirmed that locksdown didn't work >Confirmed that the vaccine didn't work
EU + Putin + America + virtually every leader/government in the world benefits from this. it's the perfect distraction.
This war has been going on for 8 years and this conflict has been going on for decades. why is the media focusing on this now? have we all forgotten what happened the past 2 years?
>This war has been going on for 8 years Anyone remember back when Rome and Sassania were going back and forth installing puppets in Armenia
Ian Ortiz
Why is it a popular story right now?
virtually every western politician, especially the US democrats are laundering money in Ukraine.
It's like everyone forgot the entire Hunter Biden laptop story. All this shit is related.
Obama installed that crony president who is a fucking Jewish actor and used to larp as Ukrainian president on a TV show. It's fucking comical.
While the entire media has been focusing on Ukraine, all this crazy shit is coming out on the vaccines and the coronavirus and nobody is paying attention.
Nolan Walker
>Why is it a popular story right now? Because Russia has already been demonized and linked to Trump in the last propaganda cycle. Now the US State Dept plans for Ukraine are boiling over, and it's time to switch the outrage back to an upgraded rerun.
Brandon Clark
>>Russia tries to join NATOin 90s, rejected
IIRC it was because of one very important criteria that you have to fulfill to join NATO.
Nation can't be at active military conflict or have a border dispute. It's to ensure that newly joining nation will not try to use a on going war or hostile border skirmish as excuse to drag in everyone into pointless war.
And ever since CCCP stop existing Russia was at war or border conflict with someone. EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. TILL NOW.
BTW that's same reason why Ukraine would NOT be accepted into NATO untill Dombass separatost thing would not be resolved one way or another. Putin just use that bogus rhetoric of NATO expanding into Ukraine as excuse for invasion.
Jaxson Richardson
this is all just a charade for us the common people next step is imaginary cyber attacks against central banks
Wyatt Baker
Stalin also asked to join NATO LMAO Retarded shills don't study history and fail to understand this old trick
Thomas Parker
>bogus rhetoric Not to support russia here but I really can't see NATO not trying to turn Ukraine into a proxy missile catcher like they did with most former eastern bloc counties
Jayden Anderson
>Because Russia has already been demonized and linked to Trump in the last propaganda cycle. Now the US State Dept plans for Ukraine are boiling over, and it's time to switch the outrage back to an upgraded rerun. I watch tucker sometimes and his obsession with Ukraine the past few months all makes sense now. like clockwork, it comes together. Isn't it funny how FOX NEWS now is suddenly pro biden and pro government and are uniting the conservacucks.
Adrian Fisher
noooo ukraine is the gud goy cuz they didn't have their shady business dealings exposed in 2020 with biden's children and pelosi's children they did nothing wrong they got attacked and the reason why is hitler and you're hitler so stop thinking about it the invaded is always the good guy like when the US invaded iraq wait wtf there u go being hitler again fuck you hitler
Chase Moore
>Not to support russia here but I really can't see NATO not trying to turn Ukraine into a proxy missile catcher like they did with most former eastern bloc counties
pretty much this. putin sucks, but NATO is clearly the aggressor here. the area is also in Russia's backyard and they have much more to lose than the US.
Landon Gray
>noooo ukraine is the gud goy cuz they didn't have their shady business dealings exposed in 2020 with biden's children and pelosi's children they did nothing wrong they got attacked and the reason why is hitler and you're hitler so stop thinking about it the invaded is always the good guy like when the US invaded iraq wait wtf there u go being hitler again fuck you hitler
Jack Perry
we already have the concept of a non-nuclear state. we ought to have a non-militarized state. that state is perfect for a place like Ukraine. why? because it prevents world wars from happening. same as preventing nuclear, and other weapon, proliferation.
what does the United States want besides raising the importance of military power (because it is a military power)? when people feel threatened when you're acting threatingly dont be surprised.
peace comes from diplomacy. where is the peace talks? there is no Western pressure for peace talks, which means the West is playing for time. Western diplomacy seems to be focused on doing something else.
Brody Taylor
NATO totally wants that. These conditions of joining restrict what NATO can do. Ukraine probably wouldn't be able to join in for like two or three more decades at the pace before invasion.
But NATO could supply Ukraine with weapons to extend conflict that won't end because Russia is supplying weapons to separatists. Which they did. Not as much to expand but to just put torn in Putin side. See if it piss him off and provoke a conflict that NATO can use to unite West against common enemy, show they are still relevant, maybe ruin one of their greatest rivals by getting a little more involved in what happens in Ukraine.
Yes. I'm saying that Putin got played like fiddle. He took bait, hook, line, sinker and entire rood up his ass.
Samuel Smith
>>Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands, etc sign deal with Russia to build an oil pipeline, Nordstream 2. >>America furious >>America overthrows Ukraine in 2014 and installs puppet regime.
what? I thought America and EU was upset because Ukraine was going to join the Eurasian Economic Union instead of the EU - which is what the pretext for the 2014 protests was. Why do you think this is about nordstream?
Aiden Lewis
I have noticed this too. Apparently the talks were a complete disaster. They refused to acknowledge Russia's talking points nor apologize for breaking a list of treaties. They also mainly seemed to be wanting to focus on bullshit causes such as LGBT rights and what not which I don't get because Putin is part of globohomo and a WEF student. He is pro LGBT, pro immigration, pro globalization, pro feminsm, etc. he is not "le based guy" like incels make him out to be. He runs a multi ethic / cultural empire that was ruined by Bolshevik Communists
Christopher Reed
>NATO expands, breaking multiple treaties What treaties ?
Camden Green
>putin takes kiev by day 3 it's the 6th day of the war
Lincoln Myers
I think the Nordstream plays a large role, but is not the only cause.
>The Crisis In Ukraine Is Not About Ukraine: It’s About Germany – OpEd
the ones where NATO promised they wouldn't expand. If NATO kept their word, they would of not allowed these countries to join. That was the deal. The east was suppose to be a buffer zone.
Neocons and neolibs can't help themselves. They need and endless stream of war and profit, otherwise they die. Kind of like sharks.
Jacob Butler
what war? there is no war. there is no footage. all we have seen so far is russia deactivating american air bases and russian troops reaching the capitol city. historically, when capitol cities are taken, countries are defeated.
Grayson Evans
>America is the bad guy here. Clearly. Foreigners hate us citizens because of what our evil government does.
Tyler Smith
show me a video with Russian troops in kiev
Cameron Smith
lol
Camden Johnson
Remember those articles saying that utilizing critical thinking and conducting your own research is bad? Death to those fuckers.
Ryder Gutierrez
I think many politician benefit from this; not governments or countries. but if I were a politician who has been caught lying to the public, I would try to create or take part in blowing something else up in order to fill the news cycle. have you gone to the archives here? if you search covid, you find 5 posts. if you search ukraine/russia you get thousands.
the media and the policies as well as the medical experts that took us hostage for two years are at the very least required to explain themselves and apologize for their actions. it seems like they are cowering away.
Robert Martinez
I know this is hard for Warsaw Pact-boys to understand, but no one forces a country to join NATO. Countries are joining NATO because Putin is being a douche.
Samuel Stewart
>That wasn't a treaty, just a polite promise :) >It's your fault for trusting us. You know we are liars :)
Jayden Walker
>NATO promised they wouldn't expand. NATO is a lying terrorist organization.
Hudson Brown
bitch nobody will be friend with murderer liar assholes like russia is
this ukrainian escapade destroyed any russian future for generations
Carson Diaz
ukraine surrendered and are currently holding talks with putin where the americans are not invited by.
Ryder Rodriguez
as always, it's the germans who are capable of seeing the world as it is while other NPCs follow brainwashing propaganda sometimes i think that the world doesn't deserve to be saved and that extermination is the only proper way of dealing with rivals
One talk is not a treaty nor even a promise you dumb nigger. What about Ukraine's nuclear weapons and territorial integrity, which was actually a written agreement, not something Putin sucked out his ass decades later.
Connor Long
>>NATO expands, breaking multiple treaties What treaties? Other than those living rent free in putins head?
>America overthrows Ukraine in 2014 and installs puppet regime. Totally did not have anything to do with Putins lapdog ordering snipers to streets and hiding behind Putin legs when things got tough. If CIA masterplan was at work there (proof?), so was Russians doing their own stuff. No-one hated russians there, until they decided to steal crimea and let "volunteers" loose at east Ukraine.
>America can sabotage the pipeline by putting their vessels in the baltic sea So can everyone else, you have heard of international waters? It's not like Denmark is gonna close the strait.
2/5 all in all, you tried.
Brody Perez
"kept their word"
words dont mean anything, if you dont believe it your life will be very hard
