I mean they realistically have two options
A) surrender , Agree to Russian terms , Live under their influence and shadow. ( but still live )
B) continue fighting an endless horde untill you are completely crushed. Lots of deaths, And russia takes ukraine all for itself.
Are Ukrainians just incredibly stupid or something?
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I'd rather be dead than have to live in Russia.
The truth is that the russian army is gay and lame.
>Are Ukrainians just incredibly stupid or something?
Ukraine already lost the war in military terms.
But the government is taking the whole population hostage, because of incompetence + fake promises from the west
They will fight their occupiers as Poland did as Hungary did and as soviets
Zelenskyy is an antichrist christ rejector
he has no problem with people dying since he is of the devil
You do realise, even if they were to surrender, Russia will never be allowed to participate in the global economy whilst Putin is still in power? Even fucking China are backing off from them now.
One man's ego is going to absolutely decimate life for millions of people; Ukrainians and Russians.
It's such an incredibly stupid take to even consider Russia taking over Ukraine and winning here, as Russia will be bankrupt before the month is over at this rate. Cool, they'll carpet bomb the shit out the place, what money are they going to use to repair it all once they've taken over? There's no long-term play here, it's a demented, terminally-ill man who wants to go out with a bang. Shame that bang is going to come in the form of one of his senior commanders putting a bullet in his head when Putin gets more mad and attempts to call in nukes
> the government is taking the whole population hostage
Well the government is also incredibly stupid.
Once the population takes a massive dive in population numbers. They no longer will have a country to govern.
The soldiers are also incredibly stupid. Suffice to say, A nation of retards.
They saw how people under Russian control live and decided that suicide is a better option.
Because not everyone likes to turn their asses up to the sky and be fucked like you bong.
Better to die standing up than living on your knees.
They'll certainly take it in the throat from jewish gangsters and their American enablers.
British truly are retarded.
Death to eastern European is a preferable option to living under Russian government. No matter if it was XIXth century Russian empire, Soviet union or now Russian Federation. Ruskies are merciless and since it's the first Ukrainian country that lasted longer than few months, I'd say they're justified to not surrender that quickly, or at all.
stfu you demoralizing cunt. Russia doenst have just one front in the world.
Leadership is also happy to let Russia cement itself as the world's enemy and the official bad guy of the next era. They will always have an escape anyway and the population is a small price to pay for the complete shit PR show Russia destroying Ukraine will be.
Because they are dumb lazy nuggets controlled by a Jew.
The Ukie men are so Lazy they would rather whomp out their women to Turks and Arabs instead of getting a real job.
Dumb tickets ate going to burn down their country and be even poorer than before.
Oh well. Just more hot Ukrainian whores at a cheaper price.
never surrender to communists
>even if they were to surrender, Russia will never be allowed to participate in the global economy whilst Putin is still in power
going against putin and antagonising him is what got the war started. What's to say he won't just nuke or invade countries who are obvious enemies of russia and are instigating?
>One man's ego is going to absolutely decimate life for millions of people; Ukrainians and Russians.
Its not about ego. If you were knowledgable of the situation you would realise the war isn't a dick measuring contest.
>endless horde
most definitely not
Because they’re not cowardly anglos maybe.
It seems that way. It's pure suicide on their part. Not a rational decision at all.
>Russia will never be allowed to participate in the global economy
holy shit get these smoothbrain redditors into a cold pit immediately. I cannot take this any more.
just so utterly without a single useful thought.
Because they are not French
Still preferable than being invaded by niggers and other 3rd worlders.
Russia or niggers. Hmmmmm....
>But the government is taking the whole population hostage, because of incompetence + fake promises from the west
essentially the only objective viewpoint.
apparently lgbtq activists captured some russian soldiers
The Jews want blood and will sacrifice everyone but them selves to keep the status quo.
C) Continue fighting until Putin drops a nuke or destroys something NATO and the west intervenes
it's better to die as a lion than live as a sheep
Didn't realize how many coward's and defeatists there were on pol but I guess it's not surprising for a bunch of depressed edgelord NEETs
When death is preferable to living under dictators who poison their political opponents then people will fight to the death.
this is the only correct post in this thread
The rural areas already look as bad as our chug reservations so I can't even imagine how bad they must think life under Russia would be to make them go get chopped in half by a BMP.
>British truly are retarded.
>Death to eastern European is a preferable option to living under Russian government.
YH, no. Suicide and death chosen over life in a russian state is what is retarded.
Why would they surrender? They’re winning according to western media. That’s why they are having to recruit 16 year olds and convicts.
Ukraine doesn't have than much material, Kiev doesn't have that much food.
How do you reckon this will work, Big Satan?
you will let people die just to prop up your failed government because you got check mated?
French flag needs more white
Probably fake and fuck trannies. ...always have to make everything about them. Absolutely pathetic.
This isn't rambo, you daft cunt. This is real life.
they're winning by making the costs of war severely high for Putin. Russian military reputation is in the absolute shitter. I'm honestly surprised they're not routing yet
Ukrops are retarded.
They fully deserve to be wiped out.
They want to kill as many goyim as possible. The way to do this is to not surrender. They are unironically hoping Putin drops nukes.
Zelensky doesn't want to be tried for war crimes.
At this point he only wants to save his own ass.
>Fight for your own country
>Live in HIV infested Russia as Putins slave
It's not a hard choice
>costs of war severely high for Putin
they're literally sending in conscripts and farmer tractors alongside vans.
you wanna talk about the high cost of war?
who do you owe your debt to?
PM and President have suspiciously big noses and were planted by the WEF.
New Russian flag on deck
because this actually could work out *relatively* well for the government in Kieyeyeyv (that's how I'm spelling it now) if they hold on a few more days, assuming they don't give a shit about their civilians, which they probably don't. I don't think Russia wants a long war. This is just the hardball stages of a negotiation and they know it.
After a cease-fire I think you'll be surprised how quickly Europe remembers its own gas needs. It's also possible Putin is privately planning to retire soon and this is him getting some of the more morally messy stuff out of the way before his successor can come in and claim to be a nicer guy.
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why doesn't Any Forums just surrender to the globohomo and let their families/communities get pozzed?
I'm not saying it will happen but I get the feeling Ukraine is holding out for it. Also the west might still be retarded enough to intervene before the week is over.
Cowardice is not to be mistaken with inteligent decisions.
>Put your cock in crocodiles mouth , If you don't. Your a coward.
There is n o logic in this
Russian not even in your country and you're already lubed up.
Because they're not faggots like you user :D
Can't be worse then Biden's reputation tbf
>What's to say he won't just nuke
he won't. he isn't insane, despite trying (too) hard to give that impression.
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>The madman theory is a political theory commonly associated with US President Richard Nixon's foreign policy. Nixon and his administration tried to make the leaders of hostile Communist Bloc nations think he was irrational and volatile. According to the theory, those leaders would then avoid provoking the United States, fearing an unpredictable American response.
That's because you are comparing you current life with the life of russians. But if you were in poorer than russians would you still die for independence?
I mean from the ZOG leader's point of view, they just wanna keep escalating and encourage a maximum bodycount.
From the hohol's pov I have no eartly idea. Their country has never been worse than it is since the CIA installed a new puppet gov. I guess hohol's just really enjoy offering up their children to child porn and prostitution rings, and sell their organs. It's just massive stockholm syndrome is what it is. And this will end up in only 1 way, complete cities being razed because Putin's approach of don't fire unless fired upon can be justified to his soldiers only for so long.
Ukrainians: "Da, we'll fight the (((Russian))) invader, bit by bit, tooth by tooth"
Anglo: "NOOOOO! YUO'RE SUPPOSED BE SURRENDERIN'! THIS IS FRYING MUH BRAINERINOS!"
they are surrendering whenever they can
(((they))) aren't
Maybe they value freedom more than life. Seems legit.
Putin is only as good as his people's faith in him. Eventually they're going to realize he's just a man. Then they're gunna pound his asshole so good I'll blow my load harder than a super soaker!
Are you a faggot who tries to shill us into despairing and overthrowing Putin? Go fuck yourself. We will not do this, nor do we expect similiar shit from you.
Believe that Dutch Faggot. You're prolly not even Dutch. Prolly a fucking Kike, Kebab OR you're a Chechen Nigger wanting (((Putin))) up your asshole.
>first post is about anal rape
why are mutts like this
>Russia will never be allowed to participate in the global economy whilst Putin is still in power
This is what people thought in 2008 and 2013.
The American Continent CREATES faggots.
What a fucking bootlicking bitch, Jesus fucking Christ. Can you suck me off for free?
Why are you jumping to conclusions?
recently smashed units in Kharkiv were spetsnaz (our guys there captured a VSS vintorez and posted it online). Also recent losses had a bunch of T90s which seem to do as well vs western ATGM as the rest. But feel free to cope harder that Russia sending 1000s to die is fine lol their troops should unironically shoot their officers
Okay, how do you like the idea of Russia being TOTALLY owned by the Chinks? Because that's gonna be the reality going into the years following this.