The meme makes a compelling point

the meme makes a compelling point

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Nobody is there to take their freedom you fking retard. You make the same argument that I had to hear since I was in pre school
>muh Russia empire
>muh ussr

They are protecting their interests just like US would. No I don’t support this war and no I don’t support Russian government but to claim shit like you did Op is double digit iq

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lol good meme
Fuck Russia, I hope they starve to death

It's about taking Zelensky out by force, Ukraine will still exist

Russia doesn't "want" Ukrainian territory. they just refuse to allow NATO to set up shop and missiles on their border. This all started back in the Euromaidan protests in 2013. In 2012-13 Ukraine's got made a series of reforms to help them get closer to EU membership. Russia responded by restricting trade with Ukraine, and offered Ukraine huge loans in exchange for orienting their economy back toward Russia. Ukraine did this, and then the protests started. The protests were organic to start with, but heavily backed by the US after a short while (Victoria Nuland was the main operator, and there are recordings of her arranging the post-coup puppet government). The pro-Russian government fell and was replaced by far-right Ukrainian nationalists, who banned Russian language on TV and in official documents, among other things. Ethnic Russians in the east of the country didn't accept the violent overthrow of the democratically elected president, and barricaded their cities and towns and declared independence. The Ukrainian govt sent far-right militias (Azov, Pravij Sektor, etc) to crush the rebellion. They were quite successful until Russia intervened by invading south of Donetsk, opening up another front, The Ukrainians were defeated and withdrew. Meanwhile, Crimea (which is 90% ethnic Russian and only became part of Ukraine after Hrushov added it for easier governing) voted to rejoin Russia, which protected Sevastopol, the Russian naval base in the Mediterranean. The front lines have been static since this, with occasional shelling. The Ukrainian govt could stop all this by implementing the Minsk agreement with the separatists, and staying neutral to accomodate Russia's security concerns... but then the US military-industrial complex would lose out on a profitable industry.

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We are taking away their freedom to oppress the Russian population living in their country.

nice wall of text Ivan, too bad they could've fought only around Donbass and Crimeea and not invading the fucking capital, maybe that would've make it more credible

There's 3 NATO countries closer to Moscow than Ukraine, including yours. So I don't buy that "we don't want missiles close to Russia" argument

How regarded are you? To win a war you have to take control of their whole military complex plus remove the current government.

Look at gulf war, US could have just librates Kuwait not steamroll trough the whole country

So what, does that mean they should get another middle there? Look back at the Cuban crisis and how America was ready to have nuclear war over it,

Missile*

They will keep their people and their country if they surrender.

Longer they fight - more people will die.

It's fucked up, but it is what it is. Zelensky is a traitor of the Ukraine.

instead of spreading your whole army in Kiev you concentrate on Donbass, therefore managing, maybe, to conquer it faster. Then stay on defensive until the West gets bored of supporting the ukrainian army and forcing them to surrender Donbass. Come on, you don't need to be Sun Tzu to see this

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Gtfo of Latvia Ivanovitch
Never were missiles of any kind part of any deal between Ukraine and the West.
Cope in its purest form

Da, excellent work comrade. a shiny kopek has been deposited into your sberbank account. now switch vpn.

Lmao you guys are about to become poorer than Somalis
You get what you fucking deserves

the longer they fight - the more cost of war for russia. and thats great. your economy will struggle badly and its only beggining. and if you will use nukes russia will be destroyed to the ground. you are 100% sure your rusty missles will work? XD

The county is already poor. I don't think much will change. Worst that can happen is if they draft me. Hope not.

Shame it took a war for some people here to realize it.

never forget the old russian saying: it can always get worse.

not mentioning you will not look so aggresive and warmongering to the rest of the world if you say that you protect Donbass and you stay there and only there. Maybe the sanctions would have been more manageable.

>If you defend your country you're a traitor
The fuck is this mental illness?

You do need to take out one or preferably more of the five circles in a war.

If in war one side looks good and one side looks back, then I'm sorry to tell you...you just got brainwashed annon.

I won't argue with the message itself but there is no such russian saying.

>Nobody is there to take their freedom you fking retard.
yes because people living under the communists are so free

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another classic Russian saying

Hope you get drafted and killed by Zelensky himself

Imperialist cock suckers don’t deserve to live

No it doesn't, you wooden nickle five-eyes operative.

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USSR really fell fking tard. Shows the iq levels of those who support Ukraine

Russians are fighting for their country also. To keep NATO off their border, and to stop the killing of ethic Russians in Ukraine

Ywnbaw

>USSR really fell fking tard.
oh really, when did the leaders of the russian soviet republic get removed from power? you have a very active imagination user

There’s no killing of ethnic Russian
NATO never threatened Russia. Unless Russia had imperialistic ambitions

>the shill resorts to shrieking about putinbots when confronted with the unfortunate reality
Oh no. Oh no no. OH NO NO NO.

Losses are about 10% of the 1998 default, and less then 1% of the collapse of the USSR.

Media bitches who will not be able to fly to Maldives for vacation are in tears, the rest are ready for anything.

>There’s no killing of ethnic Russian
There actually was plenty of that since 2014.

Straight from reddid, huh? Bad Evil Russia attacks for no reason coz Pootin mad?

Azov was quite literally crucifying and burying alive Russians for years

Lmao Ivanovitch you’re not ready for what’s about to come
Even funnier to see you’re absolutely unprepared

Too late to say they just want to protect Donbass and leave it at that when the US built biowarfare facilities across Ukraine

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I guess don’t fund terrorist/separatists groups in the first place if you don’t want some kind of reaction.
Anyways, most of these claims are unprovable Kremlin propaganda

>Russia doesn't "want" Ukrainian territory.
ria novosty activated an article for a short period, then turned it off again, celebrating the return of ukraine to the russian state. it's conquest, all else is bullshit.

Kek

Russia was already secure because it has nuclear weapons. Whether they enslave Ukraine or not doesn't change this at all.

>uh yeah people are being killed but that's actually a good thing
>actually no it's all lies

Saved

Ukraine is run by the cia
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Cognitive disonance

I guess don't play footsie with NATO if you don't want Russia to react. Given the unprovoked massacres caused directly by ZOGmerica and it's NATO vassals (you) Russia is wise to secure a buffer.

>enslave
Making up shit out of thin air

Hey i can play this game too. Ukraine were enslaving donbass who want to be FREE (and controlled by putin

Whereas Russia were enslaving Ukraine who want to be FREE (and controlled by nato)

I don’t believe Russian people are bad.
I’ve liked all Russian people I’ve met. I love Russian culture.

But fuck Putin, the oligarchs and cock sucking Vatniks