Why do gamers have such a big problem with "politics in video games"...

I don't have a problem with politics in games provided they aren't so fucking heavy handed they become the videogame version of the "I am silly" comic.

current events commentary =\= political themes

half of them are just parroting what their favorite fag youtuber says, mostly retarded kids who can't think for themselves.
the other half has been here since at least 2012, got into the gamergate bandwagon and started seething when they realized that vidya companies are pandering to minorities, women and gays.
They'll tell you that their problem is that they don't like "preaching", propaganda or pandering. But what they really mean is that they're assmad cause soulless corpos no longer pander to virgin neets and are trying to branch out to a broader audience.

why pander to the Any Forumstard losers when you KNOW they'll buy your game anyway, even if it's just to shit on it? when you could pander to other demographics to try to capture even more loyal customers

I'd say why but id get in trouble or something

>When I say I don't want politics in videogames it doesn't actually means I don't want politics in video games
Gamer genocide when?

>despite the fact they wouldn't cut it as a writer in any other medium
What's funny about this point here, is that the politics you hate is pervasive in all media. Gaming, comics, cartoons, film, theater, music... you name it. They have it all covered.

because games back then weren't about propaganda and trying to brainwash the players

Only globohomo Jews want it out.

>When I say I don't want politics in videogames
How about not putting words in my mouth faggot?

Politics in video games is fine.
Hamfisting a real world political agenda into a fantasy world where it doesn't make sense is not fine. I can understand how this is hard to understand for complete idiots.

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yeah i love the politics in metal gear
specialy when the hot lady shows her boobies and the funny man poops his pants

very insightfull political comentary

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>references to cold war, Russia bad, Iraq and Afghanistan, America good propaganda? not current events. not real world.
>Metal Gear's entire lore revolving around western politics and globalization? not current events. not real world.
>is that a black guy in my video game? current events. everyone knows black people were invented by GTA and only became reality in 2016 when I got sucked into idpol shit

You know metal gear was on the fucking NES?

Games being political is nothing new, but not every game has to be political. Somehow we got to the point where retards think black people being in god of war is actually important.

AAA Game companies make products, not political cartoons. If you think it's propaganda you're an inbred, simple as

I just don't want to see niggers, trannies and faggots in my video games

I don't have a problem with politics in video games, I have a problem with trannies in video games.

It isn't the games, it's all of the conversation around both individual games and gaming as a whole. Irreparably fucked up beyond repair, by Any Forums here and every other political group on every other fucking website.

>Enviromentalism isn't a current event
>Anti-war movements aren't current event
Holy shit you are literally retarded

It wouldn't matter if I slammed the explanation into you, because you people don't actually listen.

The reason we don't like politics in games is simple.
>we don't like modern political agendas being forced to pre existing series
>we don't like a single political message being the predominant narrative to a game, or the single driving force for the "good guys"(aka don't beat us over the head with it, be subtle with it)
>modern heroes/main characters feel like self inserts meant to push agendas
Almost every game you people give as an example of muh politics are subtle with political undertones if any, and none of them beat you over the head with them. The "politics" in games like bioshock or deus ex are there not to push an agenda, but to tell a narrative. The devs weren't sitting there thinking
>how can we convert more people to our way of thinking with this game?
They asked themselves
>how can we tell a satisfying story for the players to enjoy and explore?

I think it's more that political fags see politics in everything. Games have political themes sometimes but there are poor bastards that see big bad lefty or big bad righty in everything they consume. I can't imagine the hell that must be.

Fuck off. We don't want you in our hobby.

Makes sense why all media is shit these days

save some straw for the horses

you're like 20 years too late. find another hobby or keep seething, I'm here to stay

>Anti-war
I guess since there's almost always a war going on then that will never not be a current event. Honestly makes me sad.

>redditjak
Right the fuck back you go

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who are you quoting?

You're either a retard that should be culled, or an ideologue that's blatantly lying and should be killed. Imagine not understanding the difference between propaganda and art that explores ideas in a non-biased way.

>AAA Game companies make products, not political cartoons. If you think it's propaganda you're an inbred, simple as
If you think people who have power over media, any media including entertainment, won't use that media to further their own ideological goals you're a gullible idiot.
Entertainment has been used as a propaganda tool since ancient fucking Athens.
Fucking Superhero comics, a product as you suggest, were blatant propaganda during WW2, as were other companies.

Because I’m fine hearing someone out on their political beliefs, but niggers and trannies are where I draw the line

Perfect example of a pseud post by someone thinking they are way smarter than they actually are

>capeshit is garbage
NO WAY?!?!?!

the faggots who pretend that fag pandering = hamfisted current events but amerifat neet pandering = serious politics

You act like the problems are the fault of politics in games. Games are not made to be fun anymore, they are made to sell DLC and hype up launch sales.

Good games still come out but the companies that made Bioshock have different priorites than even a decade ago, mainly because videogames are now an industry more profitable than fucking MOVIES

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Yeah, because spitting on your core demographic and focusing on attracting new fans worked so great for the Star Wars franchise.

Don't know about others, but what I mean is that I don't want nor like lefty shit in anything. Which is why I'm glad we have people like China and others who will censor their shit so they go away. Any other political ideology is okay.

Ok, all art is propaganda, happy now? Retards on Any Forums want to act like the game industry has been infiltrated by SJWs when actually, American culture is just changing as a whole.

the shift in tone and philosophy in the 'new' trilogy of Star Wars is perhaps the funniest thing to happen in movies in my lifetime

Because people have a hard time articulating "I don't like when developers use politics as an excuse for making non-substantive narrative decisions with a politically tribalistic viewpoint, rather than naturally allowing their viewpoint through the game"
Mostly because the shorthand "I don't like politics in games" is easy to convey that you have the exact same issue with modern games, and it only becomes an issue with hypertribalistic faggots that cry and seethe when you point out the writing their game is propagandistic tier pandering shit that actively lowers the quality of the game.
Especially since 99% of the RICH PEOPLE AND CaPiTaLiSm BaD bullshit got nailed with Ratchet and Clank way back in 2002.

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Poltics in the past actually meant something.
Now it's "BLM, "Let's put people of color/LGBT in the spotlight" "Trump is shit", etc...

>Yeah, because spitting on your core demographic
unless your entire core demographic are racist incels, which would be bad for growth in the long run, adding some black guy or a lesbian to your game isn't spitting on anyone. it's just soulless pandering, but they've had soullesss pandering since the veery beginning. the fact that you twats are complaining NOW says everything I need to know.
> focusing on attracting new fans worked so great for the Star Wars franchise
you mean like the new Disney flicks that are the highest grossing in the entire series? those massive commercial successes? or maybe you mean the mandalorian which every normalfag on the planet is watching, instead of just a small club of fat nerds. At this rate Disney will be filing for bankruptcy any day now!

Those didnt have retarded Identity politics and thoughtfully attempted to explore subject matter. Current vidya politics is "LOOK WE HAVE A TRANS BLACK WOMAN THAT LOOKS LIKE SHE GOT HIT BY A TRUCK, LOOK AT HOW PROGGRESSIVE WE ARE!!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WANT TO SEE THE GAMEPLAY?"

If you cant spot the difference, thats not really my problem

american culture is changing because SJWs have infiltrated almost everything

games have been getting more ham-handed in how they handle such topics as cultural awareness has grown, but also even games that do it right get dragged along by people using the trend in bad faith.
If half of the games in that images were brand new releases today people on this board would be shitting their pants in rage that they would dare have anything resembling a political message (that goes against the poster's own beliefs, that's the most important measure)

Gamers only dislike "politics" when they disagree with a game's message. Most older games were made by incel shutins for incel shutins, so the politics only covered a very narrow range of the spectrum. Now that gaming has expanded to a broader audience and isn't an old boys club anymore, a much more varied and comprehensive set of views are presented. This is what makes the incel shutin seethe and scream "muh politics!!!1!1"

No, I can say with certainty that when it comes to narratives politics are what it becomes about, mainly because modern writers suck and only know politics. Sure the industry being about making money isn't helping, but these writers all do the same thing. I'm starting to believe it's some kind of coordinated push by a certain group to do this to multiple AAA companies.

Kill op and kill all the faggots replying to op itt

>black trans uggo now buys game
>retard seethes on Any Forums, still buys game
>smarter retard decides to make a difference, buys a DIFFERENT game from the same company

Capitalism at work

because instead of subtle and skippable political tones modern games have 5 hours of unskippable in your face propaganda cutscenes with another 3 novels worth of the same in text
only trannies with their schizo brains would put them on the same line

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general politics vs identity politics

>The Starwalker bloodline gets destroyed by the influence of the Palpatines who take credit for saving the galaxy and steal the name of the Starwalker family
It literally could not be more funny if they tried. I'm glad I don't give a shit about that franchise outside of playing the lego games with my nephew

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You don't even understand the media you criticize, you're just a reactionary.

people get fucking pissed whenever you add a woman to a game that isn't a white or asian supermodel, calling it pandering

also this is the same situation as in cartoons where a lot of the people complaning were just too young to understand the political themes, or they just weren't relevant so they could safely ignore them if they did notice

Video games shouldn't have story period. At most, they should have extremely light flavor text, probably stuffed into the manual somewhere, but otherwise you shouldn't need justification for bing bing wahoo. I find it ironic that Any Forums can't swallow this cold hard fact, as if using their imagination for a game is too much to bear. Yet they'll gladly jerk off to literal stick figures.

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>vague political message as an undertone
>vs
>the political message being the priority over a better product
I mean, I'll buy a good game but strangely triple a also happens to be shit now, what a coincidence

Based Little Nightmares chad

some normalfag in the marketing department adding a gaylord to a game for PR points isn't the SJW boogeyman you think it is.

The way you retardedly worded this implies we liked it before. I sure as fuck don't and never did.

Why do you autsitic retards ONLY say america?
You are aware this shit has been a part of european culture for far longer, right?

Euros used to say american books are dogshit because they're too racist, europe has always been more left than the US but people pretend it's the other way around.

Post examples

>Gaming is the worst its ever been
>Comics are so dead that manga has all but replaced them even with most people not even reading
>Cartoons are the laziest/ugliest they've ever looked, the only cartoon kids actually like is TTG, the politishitter ones all get fucking dumped on by everyone
>Film is so bad rn that 90% of movies are capeshit, most western media is losing to foreign films
>LMAO
>Lmao

Nigger we know about the blackrock CSR scores, shut your retarded hole.

Oh fucking please. I just played Fire Emblem:POR and the general plot was "racism bad", but they dont fucking shove it in your face obnoxiously like current vidya. I can 100% agree with whatever political stance you have, but if your writing is shit and obnoxious and preachy then its just garbage. No need to look past that.

You are the same type of faggot that claims that men dont like "strong woman leads" when fucking Alien was a hit. No, we just dont like SHIT. Stop using political agendas as a fucking crutch and learn to accept criticism, you might just learn from it and produce something actually worthwhile. Or not, you could just go the way of the western comics where they were smugly saying "just dont buy our comics :^)" a few years ago and now they are crying and seething as comics are at an all time low in sales and manga buttfucks their sales.

yeah yeah yeah, we know ACfag because you make this shitpost in Metroid threas

it is when it's in every piece of media and news is also pushing this shit constantly

>>Gaming is the worst its ever been
lol

LMAO

it's at the end

>what do you mean you don't want games to be glorified hollywood bullshit? You must be shitposting!

>>>/resetera/

Dial 8 while you're at it.

>they dont fucking shove it in your face obnoxiously
Are you fucking serious?

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Gaming, not games, big difference. Games are riddled with microtransactions, extreme samey design, insufferable discorse over a games quality that has nothing to do with the quality of a game, etc.

reminder that gamers hate politics is a false flag

The only one that grossed highly was Force Awakens. The other two performed worse than the entirety of the original trilogy and Phantom Menace.

you guys overdo it to the point of retardation though. I'm a spic, and do you think I'm not insulted by all the pandering? I feel infantilized. only white americans ask for shit like the abomination you saw in Saints Row. So I'd be on board with you all the way if you weren't such bitchy fucking drama queens acting like this means the end of the West™. why can't I recommend Dandara, a Brazilian game, without making 30 anglo apes seethe and whine about black people? who cares if the main character of a game is a woman? there's so much to criticize about Naughty Dog games but I couldn't say anything bad about TLoU2 without being associated with you crybaby manchildren

Political themes are not political propaganda

disingenuous though, if supposed figure on the right can make a good product you'll dislike it out of a spite

>.0001 SECONDS OF CUTSCENES MAKES THE GAME HOLLYWOOD BULLSHIT

this is what you sound like

And Soren is a Happa so he is projecting hard.

>modern writers suck and only know politics

Wow, that is an amazing analysis. Which do you think a company is more likely to do: hire cheap writers for their 30,000 lines of quests, items, and dialogue, or search the industry for someone with real "videogame narrative writing experience?"

AAA games are not meant for people who like good games.

It's yet to be proven that they can make a game worth a shit though, now hasn't it?

> when it's in every piece of media and news
no it's not. I watch normal news made for moderates instead of spending my life refreshing twatter 24/7, and the only way I ever see idpol pandering is when some faggot on Any Forums start to complain, or when some soulless corpo makes a new video game I wasn't gonna buy anyway

>.0001 SECONDS OF CUTSCENES MAKES THE GAME HOLLYWOOD BULLSHIT
This but unironically. Stop simping for Neil Druckmann.

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This. There are no great political questions being considered. It's just identity politics, bread and circuses.

Ok, Western culture, same shit. If you spend any time in a school or office (i.e. have a life outside of Any Forums) you'll know how things are changing

This reeks of "I just turned 18 and let me tell you the problems with the world", as if you never even heard of the FPS garbage of the 2000s and 2010s, and the overabundance of shitty mascot platformers of the 90s

>costs of making a AAA game go up and up and up, only way to make them is through being a massive global corporation
>complain that they have obnoxious normie corporate-approved political correctness fads
just stick to indieshit then.

You forgot to post a wojak to go along with your unrealistic strawman greentext.

I do

> The only one that grossed highly was Force Awakens
the highest in the entire series, don't forget that part. the other 2 were still massive successes even if they didn't perform as well as the others.

>assumes I liked TLoU

never played it

>UM WELL ITS OK BECAUSE ITS AAA
No. If the best vehicles were released year after year with subpar bullshit, youd rage. If you went to michelin star restaurants and all their new dishes were shit for years on end, youd rage.

Stop trying to act like this should be normal. They should be the best of the best. They are multi-million/billion dollar corporations. It is fucking embarrassing that an autist with a hobby can do better than AAA games. Be a bootlicker elsewhere.

>Fire Emblem: POR has good writing!

Nigger brain

but those games were clearly propaganda you retard, especially CoD. they literally use it as a recruitment tool, and Activision has received military funding.

People have a problem now because games are about politics they don't like

>Force Awakens
Gross worldwide
$2,069,521,700

>The Last Jedi
Gross worldwide
$1,332,698,830

>Rise of Skywalker
Gross worldwide
$1,074,149,279

>Phantom Menace
Gross worldwide
$1,027,082,707

>A New Hope
Gross worldwide
$775,398,007

>Empire Strikes Back
Gross worldwide
$538,375,067

>Return of the Jedi
Gross worldwide
$475,106,177

>moderates
in other words, NPCs who have no influence on anything

>$60 game vs. $50,000 car

One of the most retarded things I've ever read on /v'/, please never post again you nigger retard

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the silent majority. we have no influence on anything...except the real fucking world. That's why Biden is in office and not some blue haired commie. You're welcome retard.

Second highest. New Hope performed better. And I don't know how "highest grossing in the entire series" became "sixth and seventh place"
You didn't adjust for inflation you retard.

Nobody has. You can't play a movie.

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Fictional politics are fine.
Fictional politics that are allegorical to reality can be done well, but definitely not often.
But most of the politics in games nowadays lack subtlety or plausibility, and who wants to listen to someone else's manifesto when they're looking for something to relax with?

>Leftists lying about facts to push their agenda
>Leftists not understanding extremely basic economics
Imagine my shock.

Because bioshock, specops and Metal Gear present questions to the player or at the very least provide antagonists somewhat relatable or sympathetic goals.

The Last Tranny 2 on the other hand is nonsensical garbage that presents political """issues""" devoid of context or sense. I'm afraid I'll never recover my sides after I saw the world end, it's the year 2060 and some faggot kike says "muh 6 gorillian"

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I don't want American politics in video games. They're infantilised beyond belief.

>We let a pant shitting dementia patient into the white house buuuuut at least he's not THAAA T BAD
What a thing to be proud of. I bet you clapped your feet together while the news showed Feds beating a woman to death and claimed that the crowd grabbed some random fed into the crowd.

Thanks for reminding me why I should be thankful I don't live in that hellhole.

>Any Forumsbait.
>Basedjack shitpost.
Cringe

Forced diversity and all that shit.
If the developer wants to create a nigger character or faggot character then that's fine but forcing it because of a shitty quota or whatever becomes noticable and annoying.
Nobody ever complained about niggers in GTA, only actual racists.
It's all so tiresome.

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Do not pretend to me like game coders and programers were 4.0 students out of college.

>GPA
It was the other way around at Capcom. All their 80s and 90s devs were college dropouts or trade school graduates, then they started favoring people with higher degrees from the 2000s onwards. The CEO once flat out said to one of the old devs that he would have never hired him nowadays.

>everyone is gay
nope sorry, go teach your kid to be tranny somewhere else

>>everyone is gay
No but everyone tolerates their behavior

/thread
It doesnt matter how many times point out that a game like Deus Ex is cool and gay black muslim vampires of color fighting the patriarchy is mind numbing. Also there's nothing worse than politicizing EVERYTHING it's obnoxious like when faggots can't stop talking about MLP, or Any Forums. If Mario started quoting political statistics, talking about social justice and being obnoxious it wouldn't add to the game it would just be very BLATANT politicization.

It's all Marxist Garbage.

Yes. So we do have influence. Behave, or next time we'll elect a blue haired commie. Seethe

The difference is that there was a time when Twitter didn't exist

>take a personalized and educated opinion on every issue instead of having your opinions handed to you based on which color you like
>NPC
Better go watch your FOTM Youtuber and learn the best way to own a moderate epic-style, because you're sucking ass at it right now.

i don't want gay anglo-judaic politics in my videogames

Stop playing games that are shit then. You have access to pretty much everything now and there's still good games being released if you would get off your lazy ass and just look.

not voting for one doesnt really matter when they're in bidens administration and they're also everywhere else

...

>Still pretending the last election was legitimate
lmao

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> when they're in bidens administration
name a single one.
> they're also everywhere else
no they aren't. Go outside you delusional imbecile.

You don't believe in self defense?

None of those games are political aside from Deus Ex and MGS3. MGS2 would have been a better pick though, because it is both more political and the best MGS.

>noooo it was stolen!
>source: my grandma's email chain
Trump lost, cope and seethe

> ALL WHITES ARE RACIST INCELS!!! DIE WHITEY!!! DIE CRACKER!!! THIS AIN'T YOUR FRANCHISE ANY MORE!!
> Why, y-y-yes, Xi Jinping, I'll take the black stormtrooper off the poster. Yes, sir. Please don't be mad at me sir

I don't like faggots, niggers, or liberals. Simple as that.

Bush did steal the election from Gore, though.

No I don't believe beating an unconscious woman on the pavement to death with a baton that you used to beat her unconscious with is self defense, no.

You know what game I'm playing right now? FTL. It's full of dialogue, but I still like the game. It even includes some idaeology about diversity in the federation versus the rebellion, which is human supremacist. You know why it doesn't bother me? Because it's clear that the effort went into the gameplay. I can ignore all of the subtext of the background story because the game still has substance behind it, unlike some trash heap like God of soi.

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> DIE WHITEY!!! DIE CRACKER!!! THIS AIN'T YOUR FRANCHISE ANY MORE!!
who are you quoting? the only people who talk like this are other crackers. retarded cracker.

I don't like businessmen.

The gpa part is just a way of saying they hired competent people, releasing incomplete games like they do now wasn't a thing.

Uh huh, sure.
It's not like it wasn't already a thing in 2016 and Jill Stein got a Clinton Greeting Card, when she accidentally revealed too much trying to accuse trump of cheating.

All of those were anti authoritarian or anti war. Not modern politics with dem talking points

(You)

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user if you bought the best of the best pens on the market and they consistently were SHIT then you'd bitch. Pick a fucking industry outside of entertainment where low effort fucking bullshit like this is standard practice at the top.
>w-well they only get $60!!!
And they are multibillion dollar companies that sell a gorillian copies that all have DLC and shit. Shut the FUCK up, bootlicker retard.

because most people still have values left over from their parents generation
that wont be the case in 20 years and it'll be even worse in 50
social media decides current culture and the direction it's going
so you're either ignorant (aka a moderate) or you're deliberately being disingenuous because you're a cuck and you actually want it to go in that direction
my guess is the latter

Political content isn't the same as being ideologically driven, Bioshock's impetus wasn't to destroy objectivists. Can we stop having this thread now thanks.

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Buddy, you're the one who brought up the totally legitimate election that really for real defeated orange man bad society has totally spoken xD

lol, the irony

Based. God I can't wait until XI censors the shit out of leftists and their mentally-ill beliefs even more when China becomes more prominent.

The direction things are going in is extremely capitalist.

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because modern "political commentary" in games is "my take good your take bad" for the entire game with zero nuance whatsoever

thread full of aliens

based janny, get fucked troons

lol
lmao