he Russian forces are appealing directly to Ukrainian soldiers and officers to desert and go home. There are indications that this is succeeding, as it certainly enabled the Donetsk and Lugansk home armies to make considerable advances towards retaking the larger territory of their original administrative units (oblasts) which they lost to the Ukrainian army back in 2014.
As I understood, casualties of the Russian incursion in Ukraine on Day One numbered 141 Ukrainian combatants, zero civilians. If true, these numbers are miniscule compared to what the United States and Europeans were projecting from the beginning.
Why is that so?
on Day One of the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, in which he took part as commander of the 101st Airborne Division in the drive to Baghdad, they traveled much farther and faster than the Russians are doing now.
the U.S. onslaught on Baghdad was savage, causing perhaps hundreds of thousands of deaths. Iraqi lives, civilian and combatant alike, counted for nothing.
Russian armed forces have been given strict instructions by Putin, through Minister of Defense Shoigu, to treat the Ukrainian servicemen with respect and to allow all those who lay down their weapons to leave the field of battle and go home through a corridor that will be opened for them.
the Russians have been instructed to stay clear of cities and to avoid shelling residential blocks, all with the aim of avoiding civilian casualties to the extent possible. These various constraints of course slow down the progress of the Russian forces.
the resulting miniscule casualty figures so far: good political sense, the understanding that the Ukrainians, both civilians and men in arms, must not be unduly antagonized if there is going to be a durable settlement when the military victory comes. It does not serve Russian interests to stoke fires of revanchism.
It is "slow" because we are used to American wars where the US forces just level everything like a bulldozer. The Russians don't want to destroy the Ukraine, they want to capture it, he explained it pretty well: youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo
Cooper Powell
>on Day One of the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, in which he took part as commander of the 101st Airborne Division in the drive to Baghdad, they traveled much farther and faster than the Russians are doing now. It took them nearly 20 days to take Baghdad. Do you think Kiev is going to hold out for two more weeks?
Brody Carter
>on Day One of the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, in which he took part as commander of the 101st Airborne Division in the drive to Baghdad, they traveled much farther and faster than the Russians are doing now. This is inherently false. The Russian invasion of Ukraine has so far been one of the most tactically brilliant and fastest invasions in all of history. The fact that they are managing this without the use of “shock and awe” tactics and killing civilians is even more impressive. Shills on this board are just retards who don’t know history.
Jeremiah Wright
Russia's humane treatment of the enemy’s servicemen.
This approach to the military tasks results from awareness that the military is a handmaiden to diplomacy and to politics, not vice versa, as has been the case in each of the major wars that the United States fought and ultimately lost in the past thirty years. That is why the Russians are not practicing “shock and awe,” which is the American way of war.
In the takeover of Crimea, the game-changer favoring the Russian PsyOps was their ability to disrupt entirely the military communications of the Ukrainian enemy, so that field units lost touch with their commanders and were exposed on the spot to calls for surrender and desertion, to which the vast demoralized and confused majority acceded at once. There is evidence that the same technique is being practiced today by Russia in Ukraine
Euronews carried the address of President Zelensky awarding posthumous designation as Heroes of Ukraine to the entire detachment, which reportedly resisted the attacking Russian forces and were slaughtered. Meanwhile Russian news showed those same border guards seated at tables and signing sworn statements that they voluntarily lay down their arms and awaited repatriation to their homes and families.
Was Zelensky engaging in brazen propaganda? No, he was simply misinformed because the detachment had been wholly cut off from its superior officers in Kiev and they feared for the worst. This is what the Russians practiced so successfully in their Crimean campaign in 2014.
In Syria, the Russian army established special units to sort out in field conditions the bad terrorists from the very bad terrorists. The former were allowed to lay down their arms and go home to their families. The latter were fought to the death and “neutralized.”
This slow, painstaking effort to distinguish enemies who can be brought back into civil society from those who cannot is unique to the Russian way of war today, and it deserves much more attention than it receives in our media. It is surely enabled by advanced psychological training of officers in charge. And it is an entirely different mindset from the “counterinsurgency” techniques that David Petraeus popularized and rode to fame and advancement in the Iraq War.
Pretty much this If it was the US, UK or any other western country doing it, all the (((medias))) would have been praising the military genius of the operation
Ian Gray
>Why is the Russian operation so slow? Zoomer moment.
>Russian armed forces have been given strict instructions by Putin, through Minister of Defense Shoigu, to treat the Ukrainian servicemen with respect and to allow all those who lay down their weapons to leave the field of battle and go home through a corridor that will be opened for them. >the Russians have been instructed to stay clear of cities and to avoid shelling residential blocks, all with the aim of avoiding civilian casualties to the extent possible. These various constraints of course slow down the progress of the Russian forces. >the resulting miniscule casualty figures so far: good political sense, the understanding that the Ukrainians, both civilians and men in arms, must not be unduly antagonized if there is going to be a durable settlement when the military victory comes. It does not serve Russian interests to stoke fires of revanchism. Putin is a great guy.
Jacob Perez
>It is "slow" because we are used to American wars where the US forces just level everything like a bulldozer The Russians savaged the Georgian in just over a week.
Joseph Williams
Why is Kohlchan Any Forums so much better than other imageboards during wars?
>It is "slow" because we are used to American wars where the US forces just level everything like a bulldozer. Just like US Law enforcement. Kill anything that moves. Muh Officer Safety.
Alexander Diaz
They've only been stopped at city centers which is always hard to take.
This is not slow. An Invasion of a country like Ukraine takes weeks if not months. , for a prepared force. You've been brainwashed by plebbit and globohomo.
Carson Allen
I'm not sure I'd call it military genius, but they've definitely rolled over Ukraine almost like nothing was even there to stop them, up until the past couple days.
Jackson Harris
Peace talks are starting soon. The Ucraniums are about to bend the knee.
Dominic Cox
maybe because this is a modern day war, which means that both sides have far better technology that they wish to show off, mainly russia. as well as the fact that russia are not sending all of their men, most of them are patroling the yet not overtaken border. Im so tired of people saying its over for russia even though not even a week has passed. get on with your lives kikes.
Because we are not using the same tactics of carpet bombing and gunning down everything in sight like the US and NATO uses. It's especially important for us to keep civilian casualties, including civilian infrastructure to the minimum. Your shills and propaganda may be working in full force right now, but the people will remember. Belgrad remembers, Syria remembers, Libya remembers, and countless of innocent countries US and NATO decided to bring democracy to will remember.
Andrew Myers
I seriously doubt it. They'll be huffing their own farts and propaganda and refusing to budge on anything Russia wants. The talks are and will be absolutely useless. Globohomo pawns will keep doing what they're doing like robots.
Carson Sanchez
it's not your conventional blitzkrieg, they actually try to minimalize civilian losses
Jose Smith
Fuck, sorry I'm assmad and didn't actually read your whole OP post and just the question. Well written, Norway bro.
Christian Lopez
Look exactly like my brother on the right. Fucking exactly. I literally saved this picture and will send it to my Dad when he wakes up
Jaxon Powell
it even takes awhile to take a city on civ 5
Bentley Thompson
>slow Are you serial? Ukraine is not some sandnigger muslim caliphate. It has the gear and the manpower that knows how to ise it. I was expecting that kind of map mayve after 3 weeks not after 3 days.
Brody Sullivan
lmao this is my dad on the right kek
Xavier Gomez
Russia doesn’t want to destroy Ukraine nor kill Ukrainians. They want to change the regime to a more favourable one to their interests.
Asher Flores
>try to attack >others defend >Why so slow :((((
Honestly that map shows more than 100 km penetration in many parts, and if that map was was ww1 Putin would be declared the second coming of Napoleon.
Owen Gutierrez
Hohols are white Africans.
Eli Long
is this the only smart guy on /pol
Cameron Garcia
This is also why the Russians are "botching" being occupiers, they normally resolve things like spetsnaz, filling everything with bullet holes. The media and propaganda peddling shills are trying to confuse their ineptitude in occupation with an ineptitude with fighting or destroying. The point of that is make Russia seem like a pushover and trick the west into foolishly directly fighting Russia, absolute retardation and a sure fire way to start WW3.
Don't fall for that bullshit and end up sucking John Bolton's cock, these aren't desert retards they're able to spit nukes. Send aid and help Ukrainians with safe passage if needed.
