Whatever I fucking try I cant get a girlfriend

Im a 25 year old incel, who works a dead end job with no girlfriend or wife prospects? Whats the point in working then? If I cant have a family why should I prop up this system?

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I make 18 an hour.

And it cant even afford me a home in my blue state of Oregon.

got your fork truck ticket young fella?
I don't care if the girl is chinese and the baby has chinese eyes. AS LONG AS YOU GOT YOUR FORK TRUCK TICKET SON

Have you tried not being ugly?

Yeah I dont know to answer that one. I am average in looks but I should be able to have an average woman with my income level.

Are you overweight?

>should be

Sorry user, logic like that doesn't apply in modern dating. Even fat roasties have astronomical standards.

I mean I could keep earning my pittence for this expensive ass shithole or I can just move to flyover where its less money to buy a house. What midwest state has the cheapest homes? Michigan, Indiana, Iowa?

100% fat lard bitch

I am totally fine with fucking a fleshlight/doll at this rate.

You’re a gay faggot who will never do anything in life.
Off yourself, you pathetic little worm.
Every single retard who makes these types of threads are faggots and liars.

move to a different state, never understood people that would choose to stay at a place where their life is stagnant. you live in america which is huge

Im not lying. Im halfway to 30 and only had sex twice in my life. My life has been a cascading disaster of failure after failure.

Im trying to move to flyover. Thats why im asking what state is best for cheap housing and plentiful jobs.

If you're flailing in one state, how will he suddenly prosper in another? I say stay where you're at and work on improving yourself.

You’re a liar because you’re pretending you want to improve.
Anytime I try to help one of you retards you call me a fed or a shill or a tranny or a jew.
Because you’re worthless.
Go buy a self help book, queer.

How tall are you? What shape are you in?

>Whatever I fucking try I cant get a girlfriend
This may sound a bit weird but have you tried

Working out and building some muscle
joining a MMA gym and doing some sparring
getting up to date on fashion, grooming, style
working on your body language, charisma, speaking skills, charm, reading some of the pua pick up shit and the related books to that? Especially learning to not take shit and and all that stuff from "no more mr nice guy"
Going out and taking some MDMA, amphetamines, drinking, coke, and just being a wild fucking animal?

I'm in a similar position user, same age and pay. I wish I had an answer. I had a couple relationships in the past three years and the last one cheated on me. Modern women are a dumpster fire.

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>If I cant have a family why should I prop up this system?
You don't have to. Become NEET. Society is suppose to work for men, if it doesn't then you owe it nothing.

Why do any of that, the man has his shit together making decent money. No fashion or consumerism is going to fix society.

Id rather watch xhamster 3 times a day than deal with a bitch.

Im gonna literally starve the system buy not buying a single thing that doesnt help my survival. just the basics.

Move to Roseburg or some other rural shithole? Anywhere in the city is going to expect you to have gainful skills, but even a retard can make enough to buy a house in the boonies.

Costs a lot of money to join an MMA gym on a min wage budget. I dont do drugs.

Suck it up and get an uglier girl, you have porn if you want to see beautiful women. I'm 100% serious get someone less attractive than you, and you will hold all the power in your relationship.

It literally took me 40 tries to get a gf. I'm a avg looking guy nothing to quite home about but I'm into working out so I'm not flabby. But I still got turned down by 5s to 10s. Maybe they wanted me to chase? But I got 1 and it lasted 2 years. I've been trying with one girl who wants me to chase. I have been But decided to stop and just keep working out. Just keep working out and get a side job that forces you to read people.

Arizona would be ideal for me in terms of closeness to parents but i want to live far as fucking possible.

I can't deal with most females and I'm okay with it

There are two kinds of men. Those have sex, read what i wrote and know that it works. Then there are those can't get sex and read that and don't know why it works. Idk some dudes just get it and some dont.

cheers lad

Notice how he's avoiding the actual advice given.

Why are you avoiding my question regarding your height and your health? Seems obvious one or both of these ruin you
Yup

I'm fat and unemployed and I have a nice looking blonde gf with a big ass. a lot of women just want someone who is nice to them and keeps them company. ive been with her for 8 years though it might be harder now

Every dude can get sex. OP asks for a woman who can provide family with.

Its not that im avoding the advice, but I literally dont have good genetics to look good in the gym.

So how did you meet her then? I would like an arrangement like this for myself.

>women just want someone who is nice
Its over

JUST GO TO THE GYM BRO. yeah ive gone to the gym for years and it didnt do shit. Its all down to luck.

> works a dead end job
no wonder you can't find anything nice

also this

Join the army, once youre back after WW3 youll get to have your pick (and probably while youre deployed too)

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Horseshit man. Unless you're competing and go for like 8% bodyfat no one's going to see your "bad genetics". Any anyone, you could do literally anything physical not just lifting weights. Get into triathlons, rock climbing, tennis, anything active and women love that shit.

Nice try but im not getting the vaccine. So its over.

I'm doing the same.
Not necessarily true. Chick I was with looked far worse than me and it still went south.
Probably the average 5'8'' 6-8/10 like the rest of us.
I have friends that are ex-marines, shredded out their minds, that still have problems with women. "lol just go to the gym bro" is some fucking retarded advice.

6'3", have autism, literally can get any girl I want just by asking. You ever tried to stop being a little pessimistic faggot?

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>Its all down to luck.
You realize all you have to do is Ace any sort of interaction with a female to get her to have sex with you, right? It's a yes/no affair that starts you off with almost a 50% chance of success right off the bat unless you're terribly ugly.

You look gay. My wife lived in London and just though every english guy was gay.

I dont know how you can get a better job. A cleaner that turns up on time and does a good job can make $30 hour.

Become a CPA accountant then get the fuck out if USA

I dont want an ugly girl dude. I got standards. Either I stay forever alone or I get someone attractive.

Have you tried regular exercise, a decent diet and having some semblance of a personality?

why do you want a gf?

I am 6,2, I ask a girl out and she doesnt even want to talk to me. I believe MGTOW is the way.

you'll get your looksmatch and you won't throw a fit about it, K?

>Every dude can get sex.
nah there is plenty of beta males that are just not getting sex and they dont even know why. You try telling them and giving some hints, you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink it.

You can either get a better job or get rich, lower your standards or become a NEET/incel forever. Or become a violent thug because girls seem attracted to those types.

Because life is shitty being single and poor. I want to get a gf partially for companionship and partly for more money. Single income isnt cutting it in Portland.

Find a hobby and meet a girl there. I thought I was forever alone as well until met my wife at a fucking disc golf tournament kek

did you like her? I'm 80% sure your attempt with women is defined by how much you like them. I've been able to date or be in a relationship with almost every girl I've really liked and felt connected with.

Read rational male then find a real purpose to life

Lol

tits or gtfo

I just go up to a woman and ask for their number. Isnt that how it works? Like what the hell.

>getting sex
you can literally pay for it.
they're incel by choice.

5'8 isn't average for white/black men, average is 3 inches taller than that. At that height OP needs to be in good shape

Yes and it does nothing. Women are never satisfied, constantly chasing chad cock. And when they say where all the nice men went its too late.

in 20 years this is going to be every single young man, probably
they'll have to call it Gen V for Virgins.

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Im considering escorts at this point just for the girlfriend experience. I was never given this in my early 20s and it pains me.

I just go after rich girls

I met her online and we went on a few simple dates like going on little hikes and picnics. we didn't talk too much online before trying a date
that's what the good ones want

Gonna be honest with you here. I married the nerdy homely librarian type and she's fucking amazing. She 4.0'd her BS and MS, is super nice, has an insane sex drive, amazing body, had one partner before me, is family oriented, and dislikes going out. Don't discount the butterfaces man.

you have to chat them up first. It's not so much that you convince her to go out. You send out a hint, let it sit for a bit. Then ask at your best moment when you feel most confident. What works for me is to get multiple girl's contacts, chat them up when I feel attracted and horny. That's when I'm most confident to play their little game. At some point you bring up sex, you'll tell from whether they invite the idea or not, from there you just hang out and it will happen.