>Does anyone on earth unironically believe he was forced to attack the harmless nation of Ukraine?
>Does anyone really unironically think that NATO would accept Ukraine in its ranks
>Does anyone really unironically believe Nato was going to invade Russia hahawhawhaw
Like Putin had 0 real reasons to invade
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>fuck the rebels in Donbass
>uwu Kosovo has a right to self-determination
Yes, most, and yes
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>cucked german with no military speaking
bbbbbut he just can't heckin invade!!!!! noooo
I think Germans are the biggest wagecuck globohomo supporters on this board with shittier takes than even leafs. I hope he nukes you too.
>allow NATO to be on your borders indefinitely
>Muh Crimea
Eh, he seems to be doing fine.
i do faggot please have some free herbs
Using Memeflag instead of your own Vladimir ?
Does matter, still no winning wars and no bitches
>invading Ukraine so now you're bordering with NATO directly
Wow what a genius
Honestly i thought it was gonna go with each side talking shit for months until something else happened and every one forgot about it.
He's gonna annex a few areas, install a puppet leader and drop back, they probably won't stay
You have to be 18 to post here
>think that NATO would accept Ukraine in its ranks
what does #23 say
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Holols deserve genocide and also sold out to NATO. it is necessary, and a good thing
The war started in 2014 he's just ending it
On Earth, the only reason you need to invade anyone is if you want to. Whether or not you succeed is based on your power versus the power of those against you.
There is nothing else to say to you. Any "reasons" given for war are to manipulate the masses, and unless you are behind the geopolitical chessboard, you will likely never know the deepest motivations for any war move. Ever.
Stay healthy, friend.
Look, it’s just that I’m not going to support Ukraine.
Ugh I know!
Ughhhh I know I know.
look it’s just that I’m not going to support them.
HahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA
That wasn't the casus belli. It was Zelensky being a retarded actor and blabbering about rejecting the nonproliferation clauses of the Budapest Agreements
The way the geography of the area is, Ukraine is the beginning of a flay tunnel that starts off narrow amd widens out across Russia and into Moscow.
Russia needs to control the funnel point (Ukraine ) or else Moscow and the rest of Russia will be open to attack.
Right, because it makes more sense to have a neighbor that's sympathetic to the west instead of using that neighbor's land as a buffer zone.
He is german: german don't think of read. they just obey.
So you have to quote it for him:
>"NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO. Both nations have made valuable contributions to Alliance operations. "
Really playing your role as America's bitch well, Hans.
Not pathetic at all, good job.
>>Does anyone really unironically think that NATO would accept Ukraine in its ranks
I keep seeing this argument from the pro-Ukraine side but isn’t that pretty much exactly what the west was posturing would happen? When Russia directly asked them about it they exactly said “Ukraine can do whatever it wants, if it wants to join NATO then it has that right.” And now EU and US are sending weapons to Ukraine which Germany even admitted it hasn’t done since WWII, so I mean yeah it kind of does seem like they were willing to accept Ukraine into NATO? If they will send them weapons now when it’s supposed to be a neutral territory dispute why don’t you think that was pretty much always the goal?
He had and he is right.
USA was never trustful has always broken its word. All USA had to do is say no to Ukraine getting in to NATO. but hey USA wants war now they have one. Its still backfiring on US kikes.
Russia has nothing to lose anymore, full stem ahead Russia. Its victory or nucearbust.
>Does anyone really unironically think that NATO would accept Ukraine in its ranks
Yes, lmao. You're an idiot if you don't see that. Even NATO admitted they've been trying to find loopholes to do it since 2008.
NATO is already on their Border, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are all part of NATO and how have troops deployed there.
Maybe if Russia didn't constantly act like niggers to their neighbors people wouldn't look to NATO for support.
>DUDE YOU'RE PARANOID UKRAINE ISN'T IN NATO
>AIEEEEE YOU'RE ATTACKING UKRAINE, NATO WILL USE IT'S FULL FORCE TO SEND IN SUPPLIES, TAKE IN REFUGEE'S, AND HELP IN ANYWAY THEY CAN
So clearly Ukraine was in NATO
Just admit it.
>Like Putin had 0 real reasons to invade
it's because of the biolabs and what they were making
Greece is in NATO
Greece doesn't deserve to be in the NATO
Greece is FULL of american army bases now, mostly in the islands.
>oh sorry did i say American ? i meant nato ofc.
This. Since 2014 Ukraine has been attacking Donbass and Lugansk nonstop. 2014 was also the year they overthrew Ukraine’s leadership to be a vassal of the U.S and antagonize Russia
>nation of Ukraine
NATO slush fund buffer states are not nations
absolutely yes, on all questions.
those who have been keeping track of nato the past 20 years know why.
uninformed retard npc's however will just parrot whatever the fuck their msm tells them
Sadly, my two sisters do. But then again, they're not the sharpest tools in the shed.
His hope was for some kind of swift conquest with support at home and indifference from the West.
He fucked it all up.
I can sharpen them for you if you know what I mean
Who is going to attack russia? They have nukes.
Ukraine did nothing wrong.
*well... not all. He has the excuse to rule until he dies. That may be his end game.
In what world does any of this shit actually matter? Maybe if totally neutralising all nuclear weapons was a feasible thing that both NATO and Russia could do it might matter, but who the fuck cares if NATO even wanted to do Barbarossa 2.0 starting in either the old Russian border or some Ukrainian vassal state when such a war would just immediately go nuclear?
Putin wants Ukraine (or at least the donbass separatists) because it makes him look strong and capable to the Russian people, the same reason he ever does anything. It's pure propaganda. Having or not having it is completely irrelevant in the context of any hypothetical war with NATO.
Moscov location won't magically move close to NATO, retard.
That suggests he has a plan to permanently control it without occupying it. And honestly I don't see how he won't. You will probably see a civil war in Ukraine that will be forever in a stalemate. Basically what was already happening but with more control for Russia.
Fuck Putin
Fuck NATO
Fuck Zelenskyy
Fuck the US
Fuck the EU
Fuck the UN
ULTRA ISOLATIONISM NOW!
>They were promised an invitation.
>Putin asked to join nato and they said no .
>If we are not planning to undermine Russia why do we have all those military bases around them
Euromaidan was funded by soros and kolomoisky.
Can you kill yourself? You're a disgrace to german
cope
What's the point if a buffer zone?
>Putin asked to join nato and they said no
Fill me in no homo?
Oh look, it's the Muh WMDs hoax all over again.
>>Does anyone really unironically think that NATO would accept Ukraine in its ranks
glownigger
are you, like, debunking it?
A backyard where nobody has missiles pointed at you is always better than a backyard with missiles pointed at you. That and if NATO wants to invade you they have to go through the buffer country first.