Why is Any Forums divided on the Ukraine question?

This is the ultimate 'newfag' test.

If you are a puppet of the progressive homossexual media, you support Ukraine. That means you don't know jack about politics and should leave this board immediately because you are not qualified to debate in any thread besides the food, haircut and tranny threads.

Russia is the Any Forums-approved side:

Russia MUST conquer Ukraine because:

>defending the northern european plain would become impossible if Ukraine joined NATO. That means Russia would expose their heartland to a killing blow from the globalist pedophiles and would be in an impossible position in the case of an invasion
>defending its only economic asset, which is natural gas. Ukraine had discovered in 2009 a colossal Black Sea reserve that would've made Russia useless for the world and could've supplied Europe
>Ukraine locked Russia-Europea natural gas transport through soviet-built pipelines that went through Ukraine for no reason other than sabotage Russia
>the ukrainians have no sympathy towards Russia and their president was elected on the prerrogative of taking back the lost territories, basically an anti-russia warmonger
>ukraine does not actually exist, it is a soviet creation that just happened to go independent

You're welcome.

Support Russia, the Third Rome.

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russia is still zog, work with aipac and has holocaust denial outlawed.
>calls other newfag
>falls for hegelian dialectic

>A bunch of mongols attack white country

I don't understand why you faggots feel you have to defend Russia at every step when your goal is to defeat leftists. Like, to find excuses for Russia's every single retarded decision.

>falls for hegelian dialectic
He's a brazilian monkey. What else do you expect?

Written in 1950 and still relevant today

>At bottom of Kremlin's neurotic view of world affairs is traditional and instinctive Russian sense of insecurity. Originally, this was insecurity of a peaceful agricultural people trying to live on vast exposed plain in neighborhood of fierce nomadic peoples. To this was added, as Russia came into contact with economically advanced West, fear of more competent, more powerful, more highly organized societies in that area. But this latter type of insecurity was one which afflicted rather Russian rulers than Russian people; for Russian rulers have invariably sensed that their rule was relatively archaic in form fragile and artificial in its psychological foundation, unable to stand comparison or contact with political systems of Western countries. For this reason they have always feared foreign penetration, feared direct contact between Western world and their own, feared what would happen if Russians learned truth about world without or if foreigners learned truth about world within. And they have learned to seek security only in patient but deadly struggle for total destruction of rival power, never in compacts and compromises with it.

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>ukraine does not actually exist, it is a soviet creation that just happened to go independent
worse, it's a fake country and soviet creation that nato made independent after the dissolution of the soviet union in order to further declaw the bear

something about having a superpower on my border just dosen't feel right

>It was no coincidence that Marxism, which had smoldered ineffectively for half a century in Western Europe, caught hold and blazed for first time in Russia. Only in this land which had never known a friendly neighbor or indeed any tolerant equilibrium of separate powers, either internal or international, could a doctrine thrive which viewed economic conflicts of society as insoluble by peaceful means. After establishment of Bolshevist regime, Marxist dogma, rendered even more truculent and intolerant by Lenin's interpretation, became a perfect vehicle for sense of insecurity with which Bolsheviks, even more than previous Russian rulers, were afflicted. In this dogma, with its basic altruism of purpose, they found justification for their instinctive fear of outside world, for the dictatorship without which they did not know how to rule, for cruelties they did not dare not to inflict, for sacrifice they felt bound to demand. In the name of Marxism they sacrificed every single ethical value in their methods and tactics. Today they cannot dispense with it. It is fig leaf of their moral and intellectual respectability. Without it they would stand before history, at best, as only the last of that long succession of cruel and wasteful Russian rulers who have relentlessly forced country on to ever new heights of military power in order to guarantee external security of their internally weak regimes. This is why Soviet purposes most always be solemnly clothed in trappings of Marxism, and why no one should underrate importance of dogma in Soviet affairs.

Who asked?
Proxypig

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>Thus Soviet leaders are driven [by?] necessities of their own past and present position to put forward which [apparent omission] outside world as evil, hostile and menacing, but as bearing within itself germs of creeping disease and destined to be wracked with growing internal convulsions until it is given final Coup de grace by rising power of socialism and yields to new and better world. This thesis provides justification for that increase of military and police power of Russian state, for that isolation of Russian population from outside world, and for that fluid and constant pressure to extend limits of Russian police power which are together the natural and instinctive urges of Russian rulers. Basically this is only the steady advance of uneasy Russian nationalism, a centuries old movement in which conceptions of offense and defense are inextricably confused. But in new guise of international Marxism, with its honeyed promises to a desperate and war torn outside world, it is more dangerous and insidious than ever before.

I’d never listen to a Brazil. Country of cowards. And very stupid. Their martial art is rolling on the floor with men and their women are on the Internet begging for a green card. Weak country with stupid inbred cowards.

We don't need Any Forums's support. Some people still believe meme magic will make us lose, but that's not happening

Because pol is made up of:
Actual Russian bots
Retarded Russians unironically rooting for their gov
>Brainwashed negative IQ contrarian retards who are willing to side with a faggot like Putain to "own the libs"

The rest are either libshits who genuinely hate Putin or right wingers who can actually think for themselves and understand that the world isn't black and white.

Oh, just shut up, cringe nazi bitch

Lmao fucking retard op is a moron who fell for the dialectic and thinks he's redpilled and knows shit.
You fucking midwit falling for a globohomo psyop retard lmao.

>supporting Ukraine
biggest shill filter in history of Any Forums

Brazilian chriscuck creatura, please do us a favour and end your life

To be fair, every empire acts on internal fear and insecurity of tomorrow. Us included

Cope harder shitskin

Because their both led by kikes. But Russia is the lesser kike, that's why there's all the lies and kvetching in the media.

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Reddit trannies are shilling ukraine here

>But Russia is the lesser kike
Because they are killing whites?

Finally, a real Any Forumslack post.

Honestly beautiful photo.

Don‘t forget memeflags the biggest bastards

The cringe on this board lately is painful. Is everyone on here a larping teenager or what? I want to see war footage not opinions from irrelevant NEETs. OP you are a colossal fag

There is no "Any Forums-approved side".
The only thing anyone can do now is to assume both sides are ultimately against their interests.

How am I divided by rooting for devastation of Russia, Ukraine and NATO?

Isn’t it embarrassing mate? The average age on this board must be very young. Only life experience being playing vidya lmao

>Why is Any Forums divided on the Ukraine question?
Putin invades, meaning Putin is bad.
Globohomo is very upset, people like George Soros and Marina Abramovich are scared as hell, meaning Putin is doing something right.
Nobody knows what the fuck anybody wants out of this and the media are showing us nothing but bullshit.

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They're both killing whites. Ukraine is violating the Civil rights of men and boys by forcing them to remain when they try to seek refuge elsewhere. King kike of the Ukraine wants to ensure to spill as much goy blood before he runs with the cash.

Additionaly Soros and the kike media are seething about Putin. Anything those faggots hate have to be a lesser evil.

what I don't understand is how putin doesn't see that eu is an empire? he somehow still thinks he is dealing with regular countries while he should understand that right now he is threatening an empire and nobody can say what sort of reaction comes from eu, it has never been put to existential threat by outside force before

>This is the ultimate 'newfag' test.
ye? this is from 2014. i supported ukraians then and i suppor them now.

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Back to your favela, br.

>They're both killing whites.
How? Ukraine is defending its nation. They've been forced into this, while Russia chose this. All the blood is on Russia's hands.

The EU isn’t an empire. It’s an embarrassment. They can’t decide on the most basic things together.

>Support Russia, the Third Rome.
I support your dead mother with my dick, nigger

Not even Russians are defending Russia. Even the soldiers in Ukraine, when confronted by Ukrainian citizens, just straight up say "please leave me alone"
They don't even want to invade ukraine.
This is 100% the higher ups
Flood ukraine with fighting men & missiles, Russia will never win.

The Eu isn't an empire, and its mild reaction to the invasion is a testament to this. Granted that, Putin is not attacking the EU but a third country.

I am feeling tempted to just filter every eastern european flag shitting up the board. I understand what's pushing you to feel this way, but the safety of your slavic shitholes is not my problem.

The head jew in the Ukraine is giving out weapons to CIVILIANS in an attempt to cause as much bloodshed as possible in a hopeless conflict. Not only is he violating the human rights of the male population but he's giving them arms to make them targets!

I personally take the stance of not my problem and I believe that is 90% of Any Forumss stance as well.

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