What are ukrainians fighting for exactly?

which freedoms are the russians going to take away?

>Nothing really
Please go live in russia compare to ukraine you nigger.

Russia is a pretty terrible place. I know retards here like to meme about how it must be great because they hate the gays, but they hate a lot more than that.

They intentionally encourage a culture of depressed drunks because it keeps the populace pacified despite how fucked they are all the time. They have nothing to be happy about and they feel like their lives are hopeless and pointless.

Russia's fucked up and totalitarian. Hardly better than it was as the USSR. No one wants to be part of that.

>russia is a great place no this isn't a VPN.

wtf?
I support ukraine now?

>just let them conquer you bro, what's the worst that could happen
Retardo

just answer my question nigger
what's the worst that could happen?

Like not having a dictator? and live like a democratic society live we do in europe. Have you ever been in a communism country? try visit china for fuck sake.

All of them
youtube.com/watch?v=7fV3USe9dlU

freedom of choice, voting, freedom to join nato, freedom to be a part of european union and so on

Where will fags have parades??
They’re fighting for lgbt. And niggers finding ukr wamen

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being western aligned offers a better quality of life and more promising future
people also generally prefer not to be invaded and conquered

We won't be able to larp as our preferred culture anymore
Also, Russian living standards (shit)

>what are ukrainians fighting for exactly?
Israel, what else.
>what happens to them if ukraine becomes russian again?
A lot of buttsex, probably.

>and live like a democratic society live we do in europe
wow that's great
oh so freedoms of the state?

Their current government is trying to make a blood sacrifice of them to get people to believe Cold War 2 is serious business, mostly for military-industrial complex profits and Uniparty power, so I don't think regime change can make things much worse.

i understand them, fighting for your country and family is important, but seeing how the ukrainian govt are spineless dogs to america, the only shot they got is to say fuck you at BOTH NATO and russia and the ukrainian govt, to claim true independence

Also jews. They fighting for jews

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faggot do you really actually think that Russia is a communist country in current year. Kill yourself you retarded scum, what even is that flag? Why does it exist?

>what happens to them if ukraine becomes russian again?

Holodomor 2.0 probably.

its Uqrain you guys

Jesus fucking Christ the balls on you. What's to say that isn't any different than America and trans fats (both connotations implied) Russia is just a diverse a place as any, the older people have been through a lot, and anyone who's been there can see they are making great strides under capitalism. To bad your geriatric president just up and guaranteed a nuke on your shit hole of a nigher loving country.

>Russian living standards (shit)
Like Ukrainian living standards are any better. You've got half the per-capita GDP of Russia and just as much corruption.

>Holodomor 2.0 probably.
do you really believe that?

your current living standard ain't that good either, bro

they will become even poorer and more corrupt than they already are

>i understand them
Not very inspiring coming from France.
>Holodomor 2.0 probably.
No, hohlocaust. Didn't you hear about the mobile crematoriums?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUH HDI NOOOOOOOOOO I CAN'T LIVE A SEDENTARY LIFE PLAYING VIDYA ANYMORE NOOOOOOOOO

Show flag Ivan

other than joining nato, they have all of those under russia

>Russian
>Communist
Ha...no. Not anymore. They have a market economy and sell shit all over the world. That is why the sanctions are being put in place. They are very, very capitalist. The word you are looking for is autocratic. They lack any citizen say in government and opposition parties are promptly murdered in the streets if they arise. Like Boris Nemtsov.

when ukraine becomes russian they would go from being drunk 17h a day to being drunk 21h a day.

>why don't they want be occupied by a country that starved to death 4 milions of ukrainians.

Lmao pootin fans are so idiot.

you think it might happen again?

they will have a shit ruble

Nothing, but they were led to believe otherwise by years and years of anti-Soviet and anti-Russian propaganda in mass media, school history textbooks etc.
To the point where their entire identity was built around martyrdom and fighting for their freedom/identity with Poles, Russians and Soviets
Look for the translation of their national hymn - it isn't "glory to our country", it's "we will die for freedom"
So now militant Ukrainians have a great chance to become martyrs under their comedian of a President, all in the name of American interests

youtube.com/watch?v=HiqmZLOaD8o

a girl worth fighting for!

If Russia is so great, why don't you go live there instead of Norway?

You've had the question answered. It's the Holodomor. Russia has a track record of committing atrocities on it's people when they express discontent with the ruling cartel.

Ask yourself why so many countries wanted out of the Soviet Union? Why Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia in the Baltics all wanted out? Why the Uzbeks, Tajiks and Kazakhs all wanted out?

The whole of the region is rich in natural resources, fertile farm land, deep forests for lumber, huge oil and gas reserves, rare earth minerals. There is absolutely no reason for the people there to be in such poverty. Form the Tsars to communists to Putin and his gangsters there has always been someone in power who have stripped the region of its assets to enrich themselves and leave the population on the bread line.

Nemtsov was an assclown that lost any weight he had back in the nineties.

>what are ukrainians fighting for exactly?
the right to have their own fucking country?

>what happens to them if ukraine becomes russian again?
They have to live in Russia.

just to make them seethe

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No, it means Little Ruthenia, like Asia Minor. Russia took its name from Kievan Rus, whose capital is Kiev, with Slavs originating from Belarus/Poland if you want to get autistic about history.

>You've had the question answered. It's the Holodomor.
do you think it might happen again?

>They have to live in Russia instead of the other kind of Russia with polish levels of inflated persecution complex

they won't have to live in russia
putin will let ukrainian marauders to form their own marauder republics

All you are doing is answering responses with passive aggressive questions. Let's try a different tack: why did Putin invade? How will the life of a single Russian be better in any way if Russia annexes Ukraine? It's already immeasurably worse for quite a lot: I'm sure the mothers burying their sons will think Putin's megalomania was a worthy cause for which to sacrifice their children.

>ruthenia
Just like Russia it refers to the same old bunch of vikings. That's a distinction without a difference, linguistically speaking.